# 518 Cruise and Dyno day. 11/9/13.

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**Category:** Shift518 Automotive\
**Created:** [October 16, 2013, 4:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/518-cruise-and-dyno-day-11-9-13/267862 "2013-10-16T16:13:31Z")\
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**Post date:** [November 5, 2013, 7:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/518-cruise-and-dyno-day-11-9-13/267862/86 "2013-11-05T07:51:05Z")

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> [@Who's been to Put-in-Bay?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/whos-been-to-put-in-bay/53606/39):
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> did you drive a st yet?
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> i did and its hella gay. they have auto braking to limit torque steer. to much e control, plus it has fake engine noises so the driver can hear it. who payed a engineer to make fake engine noises? ford calls it the “sound symposer”
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> the mazda speed is alot better all around and faster. but for $25,000 id take a bunch of other cars.

I own one, and even in the cold the TVC (torque verctoring control) doesn’t kick in much if any at all. Plus, there are 3 traction modes. Normal, sport, and off. For 25,000 (mine was 24,900 OTD…), I’d like to see what other NEW car you would buy for the money.

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