# 5x114.3 vs. 5x115 **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [September 10, 2013, 11:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/5x114-3-vs-5x115/232756 "2013-09-10T11:55:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Jam](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jam/32/7235_2.png) [@Jam](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jam)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2013, 11:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/5x114-3-vs-5x115/232756/1 "2013-09-10T11:55:30Z")
So a guy I work with traded in his Saturn vue a few weeks ago, and gave me a killer deal on some 16" snow tires already mounted on steel wheels for my wife’s element. The offset is similar, center bore of the Saturn wheel is a few mm larger, plus the element is 5x114.3 while the Saturn wheel is 5x115. If it doesn’t fit NBD, the tires will fit her current oem wheels Anyone do something similar on the past? I realize the will bolt up without any issue, but I’m seeing if anything could possibly be compromised long term. ---
**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2013, 11:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/5x114-3-vs-5x115/232756/2 "2013-09-10T11:58:25Z")
![http://www.texascoyote.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/dremelTool.jpg](http://www.texascoyote.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/dremelTool.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![theblue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/theblue/32/5074_2.png) [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2013, 12:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/5x114-3-vs-5x115/232756/3 "2013-09-10T12:03:36Z")
so wrong centerbore and wrong bolt pattern… I wouldn’t because close just sounds like a lot of vibrations to me. ---
**Author:** ![focusinprogress](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/focusinprogress/32/7227_2.png) [@focusinprogress](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/focusinprogress)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2013, 12:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/5x114-3-vs-5x115/232756/4 "2013-09-10T12:12:04Z")
if this was a VW, you could use “wobble bolts” and hubcentric spacers…but it’s not…so ditch the wheels and enjoy the free tires. ---
**Author:** ![Jam](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jam/32/7235_2.png) [@Jam](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jam)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2013, 12:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/5x114-3-vs-5x115/232756/5 "2013-09-10T12:16:44Z")
Yeah, I can sell the wheels and 4 tpms for what I paid for everything I’m still going to try to bolt them up. Tolerances for wheels can’t be that tight? They’re both 5 x 4.5 at the end of the day… And I seriously doubt the need for wobble bolts but hub centric rings would probably be a good idea ---
**Author:** ![focusinprogress](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/focusinprogress/32/7227_2.png) [@focusinprogress](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/focusinprogress)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2013, 12:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/5x114-3-vs-5x115/232756/6 "2013-09-10T12:30:56Z")
it will be off by enough that the studs will be rubbing/binding against the outer edge of the holes on the rim when trying to install it…and the lug nuts will not seat correctly. ---
**Author:** ![llink78](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/llink78/32/8037_2.png) [@llink78](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/llink78)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2013, 1:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/5x114-3-vs-5x115/232756/7 "2013-09-10T13:09:10Z")
If you don’t care for your wife do it up. If you want to be safe mount the tires on her current set up. Having the correct wheels are prob the most important thing keeping you safe. ---
**Author:** ![jay\_g](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jay_g/32/111288_2.png) [@jay\_g](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jay_g)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2013, 1:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/5x114-3-vs-5x115/232756/8 "2013-09-10T13:14:50Z")
My gtp bolt pattern was 114.3. I ran heavy wheels with 115 bolt pattern with hub centric rims for years, no issues. ---
**Author:** ![1QIKZ](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/1qikz/32/6112_2.png) [@1QIKZ](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/1QIKZ)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2013, 1:53pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/5x114-3-vs-5x115/232756/9 "2013-09-10T13:53:57Z")
My Enkei RPF01’s are sooooo close to working on my wife’s Saturn. ---
**Author:** ![cobalt300z](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/858c86/32.png) [@cobalt300z](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cobalt300z)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2013, 11:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/5x114-3-vs-5x115/232756/10 "2013-09-11T11:52:15Z")
[quote=“jay\_g,post:8,topic:232756"”] My gtp bolt pattern was 114.3. I ran heavy wheels with 115 bolt pattern with hub centric rims for years, no issues. [/quote] did this for years with my ssei with no hubcentric rings and it was fine ---
**Author:** ![Jam](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jam/32/7235_2.png) [@Jam](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jam)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2013, 2:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/5x114-3-vs-5x115/232756/11 "2013-09-11T14:26:46Z")
[quote=“llink78,post:7,topic:232756"”] If you don’t care for your wife do it up. If you want to be safe mount the tires on her current set up. Having the correct wheels are prob the most important thing keeping you safe. [/quote] Yup, I don’t care for my wife at all. Either that, or I’ve seen tons of statements like below, including some websites that even list the Saturn vue as having a 5x114.3 lug pattern [quote=“jay\_g,post:8,topic:232756"”] My gtp bolt pattern was 114.3. I ran heavy wheels with 115 bolt pattern with hub centric rims for years, no issues. [/quote] [quote=“cobalt300z,post:10,topic:232756"”] did this for years with my ssei with no hubcentric rings and it was fine [/quote] ---
**Author:** ![jay\_g](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jay_g/32/111288_2.png) [@jay\_g](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jay_g)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2013, 6:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/5x114-3-vs-5x115/232756/12 "2013-09-11T18:52:32Z")
I’m not saying it’s correct or safe. Just pointing out that I have done it. ---
**Author:** ![BDR5oh](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bdr5oh/32/7315_2.png) [@BDR5oh](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BDR5oh)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2013, 4:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/5x114-3-vs-5x115/232756/13 "2013-09-12T16:10:35Z")
Your fine … I did it last winter … on my grand prix … I mean really people … .7 of a mm ---
**Author:** ![XwalkerX](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/xwalkerx/32/7598_2.png) [@XwalkerX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/XwalkerX)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2013, 4:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/5x114-3-vs-5x115/232756/14 "2013-09-12T16:19:40Z")
jam youll be fine. i ran those vette wheels that were 5 x 4.75 (which converted to mm is 120.65) on 5x120 adapters they were on the car for over a year with no problem.