# 700 HP R35 GTR vs VEYRON Street race.

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**Created:** [May 22, 2010, 6:49pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/700-hp-r35-gtr-vs-veyron-street-race/252216 "2010-05-22T18:49:02Z")\
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**Post date:** [May 26, 2010, 9:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/700-hp-r35-gtr-vs-veyron-street-race/252216/46 "2010-05-26T09:57:29Z")

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> [@FS: 2006 Kawi Ninja 636](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-2006-kawi-ninja-636/32171/4):
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> I’m not sure what you are responding to here. What you said is correct but I’m just not sure why you said it.
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> Torque moves the car. Torque by definition is force x distance.
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> If you have 1 ft/lb coming out of the engine (at any speed) it goes into the transmission and the transmission exchanges rotational speed for increased torque. The same thing happens in the ring and pinion. Eventually you have axle torque.
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> The axle torque is then divided by the distance from the axle to the ground. If you pay attention to units here you will notice your torque is now a force. This force is what is known as the tractive effort, and is the force that directly propels the car.
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> From this point you can use classical dynamics and the mass of the car to determine acceleration, velocity, and displacement. All of these relationships are derived from F=ma.
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> Horsepower is only useful for gearing down to create more torque. You can have the high hp/low torque of a honda, or the high torque low HP of a diesel and both can be very fast. That’s why the only thing that matters is mass, axle torque, and the distance form the axle to the ground. You can wrap up the axle torque, and distance to the ground with the simple term of tractive effort.

clearly you know all the definitions and a few formulas we all learned in high school, but lets just learn to apply them properly.

what i said is correct, and i said it because you seemed confused when you said the gallardo already had custom gearing providing those torque numbers, when it fact the gearing has nothing to do with those torque numbers.

after all you were the one that said horsepower was a mathematical artifact, but it does in fact have a very real representation. all it comes down to is the lamborghini can accomplish more work over a period of time than the veyron on paper. Fuck the paper, like i said i just wanted to see a veyron get spanked.

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