# 700r4---using all 4 gears in a 1/4 mile run?? **URL:** \ **Category:** PittSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [October 12, 2006, 2:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/700r4-using-all-4-gears-in-a-1-4-mile-run/185559 "2006-10-12T14:17:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Orr89rocz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ac91a4/32.png) [@Orr89rocz](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Orr89rocz)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2006, 2:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/700r4-using-all-4-gears-in-a-1-4-mile-run/185559/1 "2006-10-12T14:17:30Z")
seen this guy settin up his car with deep gears for his TPI. he has 4.10’s out back and runs thru all 4 gears of his 700r4 auto during the 1/4 mile run. I’m thinking 4 gears is better than 3…and his times are pretty impressive. But, Do you think this is a good idea and will actually make u faster? or is it bad to run in overdrive? anyone ever try gearing an auto car to use all 4 gears? ---
**Author:** ![German\_with\_a\_Bowtie](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/german_with_a_bowtie/32/5967_2.png) [@German\_with\_a\_Bowtie](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/German_with_a_Bowtie)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2006, 2:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/700r4-using-all-4-gears-in-a-1-4-mile-run/185559/2 "2006-10-12T14:20:28Z")
4th gear is really the torque converter locking up in 3rd gear. I had a T Type with a 200R (similar tranny), locking the converter after the first to second shift picked up a couple tenths…but was pretty hard on the tranny. ---
**Author:** ![Pewter](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pewter/32/5936_2.png) [@Pewter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Pewter)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2006, 2:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/700r4-using-all-4-gears-in-a-1-4-mile-run/185559/3 "2006-10-12T14:29:42Z")
no;jump up a tire size ---
**Author:** ![eurodad](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/eurodad/32/5988_2.png) [@eurodad](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/eurodad)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2006, 2:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/700r4-using-all-4-gears-in-a-1-4-mile-run/185559/4 "2006-10-12T14:29:49Z")
> [@FUCK people](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fuck-people/25029/21): > > 4th gear is really the torque converter locking up in 3rd gear. not true ---
**Author:** ![Pewter](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pewter/32/5936_2.png) [@Pewter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Pewter)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2006, 2:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/700r4-using-all-4-gears-in-a-1-4-mile-run/185559/5 "2006-10-12T14:30:00Z")
> [@OFFICIAL Buffalo Sabres Thread](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-buffalo-sabres-thread/25170/2998): > > seen this guy settin up his car with deep gears for his TPI. he has 4.10’s out back and runs thru all 4 gears of his 700r4 auto during the 1/4 mile run. > > I’m thinking 4 gears is better than 3…and his times are pretty impressive. But, Do you think this is a good idea and will actually make u faster? or is it bad to run in overdrive? > > anyone ever try gearing an auto car to use all 4 gears? whats his times? ---
**Author:** ![Orr89rocz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ac91a4/32.png) [@Orr89rocz](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Orr89rocz)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2006, 2:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/700r4-using-all-4-gears-in-a-1-4-mile-run/185559/6 "2006-10-12T14:31:15Z")
do you mean its the same effect? cuz i know my converter locks up at 4100ish rpms in 3rd and its noticeable, right before i cross the traps cuz with 3.27 gears in my TPI car, with the trans shifting high at 5 grand, i cross the traps at 4100rpms or so…just about perfect since my peak hp is just under 4200. 4.10’s will force the car to go into 4th gear provided he has the trans setup to shift into OD at wot. he said he crosses in OD at 3600rpms ---
**Author:** ![Orr89rocz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ac91a4/32.png) [@Orr89rocz](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Orr89rocz)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2006, 2:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/700r4-using-all-4-gears-in-a-1-4-mile-run/185559/7 "2006-10-12T14:41:01Z")
the guy claims to have a bone stock L98 with nothing more than 3.73gears (had 4.10’s i believe at one time) in a full weight trans am and no a/c, smog/all that shit. just crank pulley and alternator. has electric water pump…1.6 roller rockers…full exhaust, torque arm, TB… and a chip no converter or anything…stock auto. the car has gone 12.9’s at 104mph… 1.75 60 foots…i’m not sure if its 100% stock but it does run thsoe times…seen the vids of it. just wondering if gearing the trans for all 4 gears during the run could make a car that much quicker? cuz my car with 2800 stall and 3.27’s is only pulling 1.7x 60 foots and this guy doesnt have a higher stall. my buddies L98 formula pulls low 1.9x 60 foots on street tires with his 3.73 gears and runs 13.6s at 100. ---
**Author:** ![eurodad](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/eurodad/32/5988_2.png) [@eurodad](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/eurodad)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2006, 2:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/700r4-using-all-4-gears-in-a-1-4-mile-run/185559/8 "2006-10-12T14:43:42Z")
i bet he’s not using convertor lockup either. ---
**Author:** ![Orr89rocz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ac91a4/32.png) [@Orr89rocz](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Orr89rocz)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2006, 2:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/700r4-using-all-4-gears-in-a-1-4-mile-run/185559/9 "2006-10-12T14:46:39Z")
i was gonna try experimenting on different converter lock up speeds under WOT, but my rear end took a crap! sucks so much…doubt i’ll be at the track again this year ---
**Author:** ![eurodad](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/eurodad/32/5988_2.png) [@eurodad](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/eurodad)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2006, 2:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/700r4-using-all-4-gears-in-a-1-4-mile-run/185559/10 "2006-10-12T14:52:07Z")
> [@diagram of "who owns who" in the automotive world](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/diagram-of-who-owns-who-in-the-automotive-world/25032/10): > > i was gonna try experimenting on different converter lock up speeds under WOT, but my rear end took a crap! sucks so much…doubt i’ll be at the track again this year try unhooking the lockup for racing. the slippage without may be better for your low powered car. lol ---
**Author:** ![Quik](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/quik/32/5979_2.png) [@Quik](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Quik)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2006, 3:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/700r4-using-all-4-gears-in-a-1-4-mile-run/185559/11 "2006-10-12T15:34:03Z")
dont race in OD. thats not worth it!!! it will shorten your trans life ---
**Author:** ![Sinner6.0L](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sinner6.0l/32/6016_2.png) [@Sinner6.0L](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Sinner6.0L)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2006, 4:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/700r4-using-all-4-gears-in-a-1-4-mile-run/185559/12 "2006-10-12T16:11:54Z")
don’t do it once you start bumpin up that power all you’ll do is roast the tires on the street. A hardcore TPI setup doesn’t need 3.73s ---
**Author:** ![Orr89rocz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ac91a4/32.png) [@Orr89rocz](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Orr89rocz)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2006, 4:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/700r4-using-all-4-gears-in-a-1-4-mile-run/185559/13 "2006-10-12T16:21:59Z")
naw, i’m not gonna try it but was just curious. if i ever wanted to go for quickest ET for mild L98 like mine, i thought maybe using 4 gears will get it done ---
**Author:** ![Pewter](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pewter/32/5936_2.png) [@Pewter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Pewter)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2006, 6:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/700r4-using-all-4-gears-in-a-1-4-mile-run/185559/14 "2006-10-12T18:04:17Z")
> [@diagram of "who owns who" in the automotive world](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/diagram-of-who-owns-who-in-the-automotive-world/25032/9): > > the guy claims to have a bone stock L98 with nothing more than 3.73gears (had 4.10’s i believe at one time) in a full weight trans am and no a/c, smog/all that shit. just crank pulley and alternator. has electric water pump…1.6 roller rockers…full exhaust, torque arm, TB… and a chip > > no converter or anything…stock auto. > > the car has gone 12.9’s at 104mph… 1.75 60 foots…i’m not sure if its 100% stock but it does run thsoe times…seen the vids of it. > > just wondering if gearing the trans for all 4 gears during the run could make a car that much quicker? cuz my car with 2800 stall and 3.27’s is only pulling 1.7x 60 foots and this guy doesnt have a higher stall. my buddies L98 formula pulls low 1.9x 60 foots on street tires with his 3.73 gears and runs 13.6s at 100. if its stock,its quik’s stock! ---
**Author:** ![Dominator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a4c791/32.png) [@Dominator](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Dominator)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2006, 11:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/700r4-using-all-4-gears-in-a-1-4-mile-run/185559/15 "2006-10-12T23:18:24Z")
pro stock uses 5 gear and goes fast as hell, fuel cars dont use a tranny and go faster. ---
**Author:** ![Orr89rocz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ac91a4/32.png) [@Orr89rocz](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Orr89rocz)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2006, 12:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/700r4-using-all-4-gears-in-a-1-4-mile-run/185559/16 "2006-10-13T12:11:48Z")
> pro stock uses 5 gear and goes fast as hell, fuel cars dont use a tranny and go faster. so what ur sayin is… i need more horsepower? :hsdance: ---
**Author:** ![Slowmaro95Z28](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/97f17d/32.png) [@Slowmaro95Z28](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Slowmaro95Z28)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2006, 10:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/700r4-using-all-4-gears-in-a-1-4-mile-run/185559/17 "2006-10-13T22:10:45Z")
Does it make a difference with a 4L60E weather or not you use overdrive in the 1/4? Does drive disable tc lockup? ---
**Author:** ![Pewter](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pewter/32/5936_2.png) [@Pewter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Pewter)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2006, 3:36am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/700r4-using-all-4-gears-in-a-1-4-mile-run/185559/18 "2006-10-14T03:36:44Z")
same thing! ---
**Author:** ![sunhawk08](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5f9b8f/32.png) [@sunhawk08](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sunhawk08)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2006, 11:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/700r4-using-all-4-gears-in-a-1-4-mile-run/185559/19 "2006-10-17T23:56:22Z")
You’ll cause more damage with OD to your tranny.I’m rebuilding a 700r at school as we speak I hate them though because everything is embedded in the clutch packs like your check balls and stuff. ---
**Author:** ![Orr89rocz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ac91a4/32.png) [@Orr89rocz](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Orr89rocz)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2006, 11:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/700r4-using-all-4-gears-in-a-1-4-mile-run/185559/20 "2006-10-17T23:58:13Z")
why does it cause damage? is it due to excessive heat while being in OD or extra stress somehow to the smaller OD gears? [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/700r4-using-all-4-gears-in-a-1-4-mile-run/185559.md?page=2)