# 89 Supra...thoughts? NEED HELP!!! **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [March 13, 2008, 9:22am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/89-supra-thoughts-need-help/44942 "2008-03-13T09:22:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![sweet89s13](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@sweet89s13](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sweet89s13)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2008, 5:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/89-supra-thoughts-need-help/44942/21 "2008-03-13T17:11:06Z")
im not saying the 7m is junk, and it does have good power potential, its just that the stock bottom end is stouter, holds more power and more parts availible for the 1JZ, and to the right subframe, that is why you get a clip with at 1jz already in it. (a few were made overseas) so you HAVE the subframe. And i would rather not mess with the HG problem at all. And you wont be looking for me at all. it is my friends and this will be a summer project as he doesnt have much time for labor. I have a paltry s13 not worthy of any competitor. Im just stating what i know, and i would say you will know far much more than my 6mos of researching mkIII vs. you 2TurboZ. no harm meant. ---
**Author:** ![amspimpwagon](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/amspimpwagon/32/7339_2.png) [@amspimpwagon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/amspimpwagon)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2008, 9:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/89-supra-thoughts-need-help/44942/22 "2008-03-13T21:29:22Z")
1J ftw. If I had the means of getting mounts(and a harness) for my car, a 1J would be the winner. Once you ride in a car with one, you will change your mind. I did. ---
**Author:** ![Cavi\_Mike](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cavi_mike/32/5217_2.png) [@Cavi\_Mike](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cavi_Mike)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2008, 5:46am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/89-supra-thoughts-need-help/44942/23 "2008-03-14T05:46:22Z")
1JZ FTL. What is with you people? There’s a ton of cars here with the 2JZ. I already said this on one forum but I guess I’ll repeat it here: Stop trying to be mad jdm tyte yo because the japanese don’t even like the 1. They swap them out for 2’s because the 1 is too small. That’s probably why you can find them so easy. Either way, just stay away from this car. ---
**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2008, 5:54am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/89-supra-thoughts-need-help/44942/24 "2008-03-14T05:54:49Z")
:word: The Japanese don’t like them and 2.5L is too small. For what? Doesn’t matter. So just trust me. This car is bad. Wat? :picard: ---
**Author:** ![sweet89s13](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@sweet89s13](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sweet89s13)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2008, 11:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/89-supra-thoughts-need-help/44942/25 "2008-03-14T11:52:35Z")
the cost of the 2jz is outrageous in price just like the rb26dett, when you can get just as good performance out of smaller engines ie: rb25det, 1jz and the cost is MUCH lower. but what do i know. ---
**Author:** ![gravesdu\_99](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/gravesdu_99/32/5047_2.png) [@gravesdu\_99](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/gravesdu_99)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2008, 5:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/89-supra-thoughts-need-help/44942/26 "2008-03-14T17:15:12Z")
> [@2TurboZ](#): > > Do you have any idea what you are talking about? the 7m is just as good as the 1j power wise but has quite a bit more torque. the 7m has a bad rap because of its issues with HG’s which toyota acknowledged. The bottom ends will make just as much power as a 1/2J block. Not to mention the massive modifications you have to do if you do not have the right subframe for the 1j to bolt in. > > But if the 1j is almighty then I will be looking for you with my weak 7m this summer. > > :ohnoes: If you want to look for my weak 1jz (which in stock form makes more hp and tq than the 7m)this summer, just look for the trail of tire smoke. I’ll be at the end waiting for you. There is basically no difference between a 1jz swap and a 2jz swap. A 2jz can’t be put in with the twin turbo set up because the back turbo hits the fire wall. All you need is a $175 motor mount kit for any subframe, wiring whip with ecu, other electronics and a bellhousing, everything else stock will bolt on and this is why people buy front clips. The big difference is in the motor cost. A 1jz cost $800, where as a 2jz will cost $2300, these are my sources, which I got my 1jz shipped in two weeks from CA. If you really want me to blow your mind do a 1.5jz. I won’t get into that, but like it sounds it’s inbetween. If the car is NA you won’t have any problems with the headgasket, from what I see the turbo ones blow, that 42 extra horse is dangerous. In my option the mkIII is a great GT driving car. If you want to drag, get something else lighter and swap an in-line 6 in it. ---
**Author:** ![2TurboZ](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/2turboz/32/7577_2.png) [@2TurboZ](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/2TurboZ)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2008, 5:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/89-supra-thoughts-need-help/44942/27 "2008-03-14T17:29:16Z")
> [@gravesdu\_99](#): > > If you want to look for my weak 1jz (which in stock form makes more hp and tq than the 7m)this summer, just look for the trail of tire smoke. I’ll be at the end waiting for you. > > There is basically no difference between a 1jz swap and a 2jz swap. A 2jz can’t be put in with the twin turbo set up because the back turbo hits the fire wall. All you need is a $175 motor mount kit for any subframe, wiring whip with ecu, other electronics and a bellhousing, everything else stock will bolt on and this is why people buy front clips. The big difference is in the motor cost. A 1jz cost $800, where as a 2jz will cost $2300, these are my sources, which I got my 1jz shipped in two weeks from CA. > > If you really want me to blow your mind do a 1.5jz. I won’t get into that, but like it sounds it’s inbetween. If the car is NA you won’t have any problems with the headgasket, from what I see the turbo ones blow, that 42 extra horse is dangerous. > > In my option the mkIII is a great GT driving car. If you want to drag, get something else lighter and swap an in-line 6 in it. Cant wait chief :gtfo: ---
**Author:** ![Cavi\_Mike](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cavi_mike/32/5217_2.png) [@Cavi\_Mike](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cavi_Mike)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2008, 5:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/89-supra-thoughts-need-help/44942/28 "2008-03-14T17:45:58Z")
> [@gravesdu\_99](#): > > If you want to look for my weak 1jz (which in stock form makes more hp and tq than the 7m)this summer, just look for the trail of tire smoke. I’ll be at the end waiting for you. > > There is basically no difference between a 1jz swap and a 2jz swap. A 2jz can’t be put in with the twin turbo set up because the back turbo hits the fire wall. All you need is a $175 motor mount kit for any subframe, wiring whip with ecu, other electronics and a bellhousing, everything else stock will bolt on and this is why people buy front clips. The big difference is in the motor cost. A 1jz cost $800, where as a 2jz will cost $2300, these are my sources, which I got my 1jz shipped in two weeks from CA. > > If you really want me to blow your mind do a 1.5jz. I won’t get into that, but like it sounds it’s inbetween. If the car is NA you won’t have any problems with the headgasket, from what I see the turbo ones blow, that 42 extra horse is dangerous. > > In my option the mkIII is a great GT driving car. If you want to drag, get something else lighter and swap an in-line 6 in it. As good as all that sounds, just buy a non-turbo 2J, rebuild and turbo charge it. You guys do understand engine work right? ‘Motah swap’ isn’t engine work. Another thing I’d like to point out, the 7MGTE powered Supra was the fastest Japanese production car ever when it came out. ---
**Author:** ![amspimpwagon](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/amspimpwagon/32/7339_2.png) [@amspimpwagon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/amspimpwagon)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2008, 10:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/89-supra-thoughts-need-help/44942/29 "2008-03-14T22:41:26Z")
Back on topic. This Supra sucks and its really ugly. ---
**Author:** ![gravesdu\_99](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/gravesdu_99/32/5047_2.png) [@gravesdu\_99](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/gravesdu_99)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2008, 4:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/89-supra-thoughts-need-help/44942/30 "2008-03-15T04:57:47Z")
> **[Toyota Supra](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Supra)** > > The Toyota Supra (Japanese: トヨタ スープラ, Toyota Sūpura) is a sports car/grand tourer that was produced by Toyota Motor Corporation from 1978 to 2002. The styling of the Supra was derived from the Toyota Celica, but it was both longer and wider. Starting in mid-1986, the A70 Supra became a separate model from the Celica. In turn, Toyota also stopped using the prefix Celica and began just calling the car Supra. Owing to the similarity and past of the Celica's name, it is frequently mistaken for The... Depends where you are talking about when you say the fastest:gotme:. And if you think supras are ugly, just go to supramania and look around. Supra’s are like the nerdy girl with glasses and her hair tied up. Once you take the glasses off and the hair down there is a lot to work with. ---
**Author:** ![amspimpwagon](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/amspimpwagon/32/7339_2.png) [@amspimpwagon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/amspimpwagon)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2008, 7:44am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/89-supra-thoughts-need-help/44942/31 "2008-03-15T07:44:01Z")
I said THIS Supra is ugly… Thats an interesting wikipedia page, I didnt know they had Supras way back in the 80’s! ---
**Author:** ![Justin](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/justin/32/7459_2.png) [@Justin](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Justin)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2008, 8:01am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/89-supra-thoughts-need-help/44942/32 "2008-03-15T08:01:32Z")
> [@amspimpwagon](#): > > I said THIS Supra is ugly… > > Thats an interesting wikipedia page, I didnt know they had Supras way back in the 80’s! LOL ---
**Author:** ![gravesdu\_99](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/gravesdu_99/32/5047_2.png) [@gravesdu\_99](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/gravesdu_99)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2008, 11:20am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/89-supra-thoughts-need-help/44942/33 "2008-03-15T11:20:51Z")
> [@amspimpwagon](#): > > I said THIS Supra is ugly… > > Thats an interesting wikipedia page, I didnt know they had Supras way back in the 80’s! I figured that when I said that you would think I was talking about you. I just meant anyone in general. That supra is ugly right now, but with work it could look something like this. But I wouldn’t pay that much for that car. Its worth maybe $2500 at the most if that, depending on if there any other supra’s in the area and if you feel like driving. I drove 4 hours to get mine from Mass. ---
**Author:** ![2TurboZ](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/2turboz/32/7577_2.png) [@2TurboZ](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/2TurboZ)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2008, 11:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/89-supra-thoughts-need-help/44942/34 "2008-03-15T11:29:49Z")
> [@gravesdu\_99](#): > > I figured that when I said that you would think I was talking about you. I just meant anyone in general. That supra is ugly right now, but with work it could look something like this. But I wouldn’t pay that much for that car. Its worth maybe $2500 at the most if that, depending on if there any other supra’s in the area and if you feel like driving. I drove 4 hours to get mine from Mass. Sharp…post a front end shot so I will know what it looks like in my rearview without wasting the gas. ---
**Author:** ![sweet89s13](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@sweet89s13](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sweet89s13)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2008, 12:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/89-supra-thoughts-need-help/44942/35 "2008-03-15T12:09:45Z")
![http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c370/sweet89s13/5yjbztv.gif](http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c370/sweet89s13/5yjbztv.gif) this thread delivers for me! hahhaahaha :grouphug:(cant we all just get along, we are on the same team. SAME TEAM!) ---
**Author:** ![Supraman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/supraman/32/7307_2.png) [@Supraman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Supraman)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2008, 1:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/89-supra-thoughts-need-help/44942/36 "2008-03-15T13:00:46Z")
so we gonna get a supra meet going this summer, now that there are like 20 on the board? ---
**Author:** ![2TurboZ](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/2turboz/32/7577_2.png) [@2TurboZ](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/2TurboZ)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2008, 1:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/89-supra-thoughts-need-help/44942/37 "2008-03-15T13:05:27Z")
Im down with a meet. ---
**Author:** ![gravesdu\_99](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/gravesdu_99/32/5047_2.png) [@gravesdu\_99](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/gravesdu_99)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2008, 1:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/89-supra-thoughts-need-help/44942/38 "2008-03-15T13:06:22Z")
> [@2TurboZ](#): > > Sharp…post a front end shot so I will know what it looks like in my rearview without wasting the gas. HaHa I wish. All my money is going into the motor right now. :rx3: ---
**Author:** ![2TurboZ](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/2turboz/32/7577_2.png) [@2TurboZ](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/2TurboZ)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2008, 1:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/89-supra-thoughts-need-help/44942/39 "2008-03-15T13:15:34Z")
> [@gravesdu\_99](#): > > HaHa I wish. All my money is going into the motor right now. :rx3: Sounds good :eekdance:…hopefully you spent enough. ---
**Author:** ![gravesdu\_99](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/gravesdu_99/32/5047_2.png) [@gravesdu\_99](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/gravesdu_99)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2008, 2:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/89-supra-thoughts-need-help/44942/40 "2008-03-15T14:09:39Z")
I’m hoping so also. Theres a lot of big horsepower cars up here in Potsdam. I’m down for a Supra meet, somewhere around Syracuse. [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/89-supra-thoughts-need-help/44942.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/89-supra-thoughts-need-help/44942.md?page=3)