# 9/11 controlled demolition? **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [July 11, 2005, 6:40am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/9-11-controlled-demolition/724 "2005-07-11T06:40:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![HotRodKid](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/hotrodkid/32/7609_2.png) [@HotRodKid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/HotRodKid)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2005, 10:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/9-11-controlled-demolition/724/21 "2005-07-11T22:20:04Z")
> [@SubaruDan](#): > > Too many holes in this theory… including the fact the the ORIGINAL version of this story was a internet rumor that the fire dept deemed the building unsavable WHILE THEY WERE STILL EVACUATING IT … and decided they should just blow it up ya know … before everyone was out … which deffinantly makes sense the bottom line is that its easy to take the facts … and take clips where people are stating their opinions … and then twist it into anything you want … especialy when you have an entire metropolis like NYC that witnessed / heard / survived the event ---
**Author:** ![walter](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/walter/32/7202_2.png) [@walter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/walter)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2005, 4:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/9-11-controlled-demolition/724/22 "2005-07-12T04:24:07Z")
anyone who belives any of this horse shit propoganda should be shot in the crotch ---
**Author:** ![Denton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Denton](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Denton)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2005, 5:33pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/9-11-controlled-demolition/724/23 "2005-07-12T17:33:59Z")
I will say this. It doesn’t make a whole lot of sense to me that a building of that size falls straight down and all the debris is concentrated in a relatively small area. If it was a controlled demolition, whoever did it saved hundreds of thousands of lives, at the cost of a few thousand. I find it hard to believe that after 20 years of cold war, we had no intel warning us of the 9/11 attacks, wether we could do anything about it or not. I believe there have been contigency plans in existance for nearly any concievable terrorist attack long before there was an Al-Queda. I believe walter should be shot in the crotch. “There is only one man I’m afraid of and his name is Osama Bin Laden.” Oliver North- Iran Contra hearings. ---
**Author:** ![vq30de](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/9dc877/32.png) [@vq30de](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/vq30de)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2005, 5:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/9-11-controlled-demolition/724/24 "2005-07-12T17:39:15Z")
> [@Denton](#): > > I will say this. It doesn’t make a whole lot of sense to me that a building of that size falls straight down and all the debris is concentrated in a relatively small area. The building was engineered to collapse that way rather than crushing everything around it, or so says my structures professor… ---
**Author:** ![RuBiCaNT](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rubicant/32/7622_2.png) [@RuBiCaNT](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RuBiCaNT)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2005, 5:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/9-11-controlled-demolition/724/25 "2005-07-12T17:56:36Z")
Did any of you see the footage of the plane that crashed into the pentagon? It was a similar movie as this one with pictures and whatnot. From what the video said, there was no plane wreckage inside the pentagon. No discernable piece recovered to show that it was indeed a plane that had destroyed the Pentagon… I found this link and thought it interesting… Not to say that this is what happened or I believe any of it, but check it out… [http://www.thefarleft.com/Essays\_files/911\_conspiracy\_theory\_paper.pdf](http://www.thefarleft.com/Essays_files/911_conspiracy_theory_paper.pdf) Here is the passage that caught my eye… > There is great evidence that “the Roosevelt administration was fully aware of the > oncoming [attack on Pearl Harbor]” before the attack occurred. Before the attack on Pearl > Harbor “88 percent of Americans opposed U. S. involvement in the European War.” > However after the attack there was overwhelming support for it. At the time of the attacks > there were no aircraft carriers, or any other valuable ships, in Pearl Harbor. Only aging > ships, which were, after the attack, refurbished. After the attack they were better than > before. > To prevent civilian ships from stumbling on the Japanese task force, and alerting > Pearl Harbor, the US navy issued and order prohibiting civilian ships from traveling > through the north pacific. There is evidence that the day before the attack anti-torpedo > nets were removed for unexplained reasons. > The Pearl Harbor conspiracy is still but a theory, but a commonly accepted > theory. It’s your decision. Here is some more from this document that relates to the content that Zwarbyt posted in his first post. > As further evidence the way the towers collapsed was not consistent with the > damage. The plane impacted from the side. The supports on this side would’ve been > weaker. **Incidentally most of the fuel was gone within seconds of the impact hence the > fireball immediately following the crash.** The papers furniture and other such office > supplies was what burned after the crash. When the central core began to melt it would > soften before liquefying and lean towards the side where the plane impacted. The weight > would move to the side causing it to lean even further… and further… until it would > eventually fall to the side, taking a small portion of the structure below the point of > impact with it. How ever it would kill more people as it would fall on them. In the first > tower to collapse the top did slightly lean to the side during the collapse as can be seen in > figure 2. While in the second tower to collapse the top went straight down without tilting, > consistent with an implosion. The way the smoke and debris clouds formed during the > collapse of the first tower to collapse is also consistent with an implosion as can be seen > in figure 3. Leading the writers of this paper to believe that there were demolition > explosives installed in the towers. This was likely done by the contractors that were in the > World Trade Center on 9-11. ---
**Author:** ![32v](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/3/b19c9b/32.png) [@32v](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/32v)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2005, 6:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/9-11-controlled-demolition/724/26 "2005-07-12T18:42:34Z")
interesting. im not going to run around and say it was a big conspiracy, but hey, who knows. ---
**Author:** ![EMX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ea924/32.png) [@EMX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/EMX)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2005, 6:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/9-11-controlled-demolition/724/27 "2005-07-12T18:48:41Z")
thats fucked up. damn you vin!!! ---
**Author:** ![fairgentleman\_Z](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fairgentleman_z/32/7263_2.png) [@fairgentleman\_Z](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fairgentleman_Z)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2005, 6:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/9-11-controlled-demolition/724/28 "2005-07-12T18:51:58Z")
Fuel vapor and atomized fuel burns (i.e. spray) The liquid fuel would take some time to burn, not all flash immediately. The Towers colapsed in an implosive manner because their support structure was the outside of the building. The center of the Towers was the weakest part. ---
**Author:** ![bmwz8addict](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e9c0ed/32.png) [@bmwz8addict](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bmwz8addict)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2005, 7:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/9-11-controlled-demolition/724/29 "2005-07-12T19:56:30Z")
Yea, it was interesting, but its not really believeable. They made it seem like in the video that the planes hit and the explosions coming out the other side werent from the planes. They neglected to mention the jet engine that went through and landed on the street. Additionally, it would be so difficult for people who have never flown this plane (which behaves like a pig compared to the piper cubs they learned to fly on im sure) except in MS Flight Sim to take it and say ok I.m going to hit that floor because that where the explosives are… Thats insane… and they would have had to do this 2 times with 2 different people. Its terrible that they managed to hit the buildings somewhere in the middle ish area , but to say they were aiming for specific floors, thats rediculous. The explosions that can be seen can be from the building could be from swaying and what not which as mentioned in a previous post could blow out a section of windows where the bending point is. The melted steel at the bottom?? Shit I am sure there were gas lines and stuff below the building when it collapsed, i mean they were putting out fires for days in the rubble, i think it might have even been a month. This theory really is not feasible, more of a diversion for you to occupy your brain for a few minutes and spark some conversation. ---
**Author:** ![Lucky\_Cheater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/eb9ed0/32.png) [@Lucky\_Cheater](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Lucky_Cheater)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2005, 7:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/9-11-controlled-demolition/724/30 "2005-07-13T07:37:10Z")
Yea Im almost certain (but not completely because generally speaking, im not very bright) that when they design those building they take into consideration “what if” situations…I’m sure they make them so if they fall, they will go straight down…not to metion the engineers who designed the towers said they could withstand a strike from a 747 guess not, I hope they got their money back -Cheater- ---
**Author:** ![Deuce](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/deuce/32/7614_2.png) [@Deuce](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Deuce)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2005, 7:41am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/9-11-controlled-demolition/724/31 "2005-07-13T07:41:49Z")
> [@Lucky Cheater](#): > > not to metion the engineers who designed the towers said they could withstand a strike from a 747 > guess not, I hope they got their money back > > -Cheater- if thats true, i bet the engineers who designed the “unskinkable” titanic might understnad ---
**Author:** ![JEG](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jeg/32/7246_2.png) [@JEG](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JEG)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2005, 10:02am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/9-11-controlled-demolition/724/32 "2005-07-13T10:02:37Z")
> [@Lucky Cheater](#): > > The only thing I found strange about 9/11 was that when Bush was informed that the world trade center was burning he didn’t leave the school where he was making an appearence…not that its a conspiracy or anything…just odd that he wasn’t like “Holy shit, I better do something”…but then of course he is a man of fairly low intelligence. > > -Cheater- ummm…you do relaize that bush scored higher on the sats and did better in school than Kerry right? hes not stupid at all, if he were he would no be president, who his father is has nothing to do with it. he just sint a good public speaker, it happens. ---
**Author:** ![Lucky\_Cheater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/eb9ed0/32.png) [@Lucky\_Cheater](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Lucky_Cheater)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2005, 10:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/9-11-controlled-demolition/724/33 "2005-07-13T10:49:47Z")
> [@JEG](#): > > ummm…you do relaize that bush scored higher on the sats and did better in school than Kerry right? hes not stupid at all, if he were he would no be president, who his father is has nothing to do with it. he just sint a good public speaker, it happens. I know Bush isn’t as dumb as everyone thinks, afterall he did pull one over on 51% of the country. But the SAT’s are hardly a proper measure of intelligence. I scored a 900, had straight b’s and a’s in highschool and graduated college with a b average. Bush may be “smart” but hes making really bad decisions some may consider “dumb”. This doesn’t change the fact that I would like to see him drop his pants, get down on all fours and scream wer’re all gonna die. And as for my last post. I saw a documentary on “Modern Movels” about the world trade center, and they did in fact engineer it so it could withstand plane strikes. As for the makers of titanic, I’m just glad they casted Leo, hes hot. -Cheater- ---
**Author:** ![RuBiCaNT](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rubicant/32/7622_2.png) [@RuBiCaNT](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RuBiCaNT)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2005, 10:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/9-11-controlled-demolition/724/34 "2005-07-13T10:50:09Z")
> [@JEG](#): > > ummm…you do relaize that bush scored higher on the sats and did better in school than Kerry right? hes not stupid at all, if he were he would no be president, who his father is has nothing to do with it. he just sint a good public speaker, it happens. Because how you do in college and score on your SAT’s depicts how good of a leader you will be and definitly shows how smart you are… :bloated: ---
**Author:** ![walter](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/walter/32/7202_2.png) [@walter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/walter)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2005, 11:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/9-11-controlled-demolition/724/35 "2005-07-13T11:50:28Z")
Where is Rick when I need him? :sigh: ---
**Author:** ![SubaruDan](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/subarudan/32/7195_2.png) [@SubaruDan](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SubaruDan)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2005, 3:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/9-11-controlled-demolition/724/36 "2005-07-21T15:27:06Z")
there is gonna be somethin on the WB news at 10 toningt (Thursday 21st) about this… ---
**Author:** ![HotRodKid](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/hotrodkid/32/7609_2.png) [@HotRodKid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/HotRodKid)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2005, 4:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/9-11-controlled-demolition/724/37 "2005-07-21T16:35:38Z")
> [@Lucky Cheater](#): > > And as for my last post. I saw a documentary on “Modern Movels” about the world trade center, and they did in fact engineer it so it could withstand plane strikes. the wtc’s werent designed to take a hit from a 747 … it was the 707 that was out during the design of the twin towers, and thats what the design would have been bases around like you said … designed to withstand the impact, but once the insulation burns off the support beams the fuel will cook the carbon out of the steel they were designed to take a hit from a 707, which carries 23,000g of fuel but the 747’s that hit carried 57,000g of fuel big fuckin difference after the first 23000 gallons burn out of the building, your prolly nearing the limit of the design, and then you still have 24000 left to burn … take a piece of high carbon steel (rocker panel or frame material) and attempt to bend it … then get it red hot with a torch, let it cool and try again … notice all the carbon thats on the surface too ---
**Author:** ![walter](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/walter/32/7202_2.png) [@walter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/walter)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2005, 5:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/9-11-controlled-demolition/724/38 "2005-07-22T05:25:02Z")
OMG WE NEVER LANDED ON THE MOON!!1!ONE ---
**Author:** ![HotRodKid](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/hotrodkid/32/7609_2.png) [@HotRodKid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/HotRodKid)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2005, 5:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/9-11-controlled-demolition/724/39 "2005-07-22T05:26:34Z")
omg walter … i finaly approve of you using an oversized font, lol ---
**Author:** ![Lucky\_Cheater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/eb9ed0/32.png) [@Lucky\_Cheater](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Lucky_Cheater)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2005, 9:20am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/9-11-controlled-demolition/724/40 "2005-07-22T09:20:49Z")
> [@HotRodKid](#): > > the wtc’s werent designed to take a hit from a 747 … > > it was the 707 that was out during the design of the twin towers, and thats what the design would have been bases around > > like you said … designed to withstand the impact, but once the insulation burns off the support beams the fuel will cook the carbon out of the steel > > they were designed to take a hit from a 707, which carries 23,000g of fuel but the 747’s that hit carried 57,000g of fuel > > big fuckin difference > > after the first 23000 gallons burn out of the building, your prolly nearing the limit of the design, and then you still have 24000 left to burn … > > take a piece of high carbon steel (rocker panel or frame material) and attempt to bend it … then get it red hot with a torch, let it cool and try again … > > notice all the carbon thats on the surface too I stand corrected. [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/9-11-controlled-demolition/724.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/9-11-controlled-demolition/724.md?page=3)