# 93+Meth vs. C16. **URL:** \ **Category:** Shift518 Automotive\ **Created:** [September 9, 2009, 6:05am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/93-meth-vs-c16/246676 "2009-09-09T06:05:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Cossey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Cossey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cossey)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2009, 6:05am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/93-meth-vs-c16/246676/1 "2009-09-09T06:05:50Z")
> **[Methanol vs. Racing Fuel - Muscle Mustangs & Fast Fords Magazine](http://www.mustangandfords.com/how-to/engine/mmfp-0811-methanol-and-racing-fuel-comparison/)** > > We find out whether a pump-gas/methanol mixture gives more power than 117 octane racing fuel. - Muscle Mustangs & Fast Fords Magazine Results may be surprising. Only things changed were timing, boost was fixed at 11psi for 93, 93/meth, and C16. ---
**Author:** ![deadbeatrec](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/deadbeatrec/32/6401_2.png) [@deadbeatrec](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/deadbeatrec)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2009, 6:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/93-meth-vs-c16/246676/2 "2009-09-09T06:15:13Z")
whats so surprising? meth owns all ---
**Author:** ![Boost\_Creep](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boost_creep/32/6366_2.png) [@Boost\_Creep](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Boost_Creep)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2009, 6:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/93-meth-vs-c16/246676/3 "2009-09-09T06:29:41Z")
Even with Meth, you will never see the boost levels C16 can attain. They were running 12PSI on a procharged mustang… ---
**Author:** ![deadbeatrec](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/deadbeatrec/32/6401_2.png) [@deadbeatrec](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/deadbeatrec)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2009, 6:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/93-meth-vs-c16/246676/4 "2009-09-09T06:37:34Z")
> [@FF: old skool Columbus Lindenberg piano](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ff-old-skool-columbus-lindenberg-piano/22757/2): > > Even with Meth, you will never see the boost levels C16 can attain. > > They were running 12PSI on a procharged mustang… 11psi meth cools more, is a lot cheaper, more readily available and easier to run ---
**Author:** ![Boost\_Creep](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boost_creep/32/6366_2.png) [@Boost\_Creep](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Boost_Creep)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2009, 6:40am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/93-meth-vs-c16/246676/5 "2009-09-09T06:40:51Z")
> [@sho = ss, sho \> scooby](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sho-ss-sho-scooby/22698/20): > > 11psi > > meth cools more, is a lot cheaper, more readily available and easier to run Yea, I’m not debating that. I’m asking if you can run 35PSI with 93/Meth? :lmao ---
**Author:** ![Sully93vr4](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sully93vr4/32/6278_2.png) [@Sully93vr4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Sully93vr4)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2009, 6:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/93-meth-vs-c16/246676/6 "2009-09-09T06:42:37Z")
I think it’s slightly comparing apples to oranges. Low/mid boost = 93 + meth High boost = C16 ---
**Author:** ![tdi\_logik](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tdi_logik/32/6310_2.png) [@tdi\_logik](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tdi_logik)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2009, 6:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/93-meth-vs-c16/246676/7 "2009-09-09T06:47:02Z")
> [@Time Warner and Fox](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/time-warner-and-fox/22702/39): > > Yea, I’m not debating that. I’m asking if you can run 35PSI with 93/Meth? :lmao Yes ---
**Author:** ![Cossey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Cossey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cossey)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2009, 6:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/93-meth-vs-c16/246676/8 "2009-09-09T06:50:42Z")
> [@NBC threatening to sue me](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nbc-threatening-to-sue-me/22708/22): > > Yes +1. Evo guys do it all day long. The GTR is going to have direct port meth injection, and a possibility of E85 or E98. ---
**Author:** ![Boost\_Creep](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boost_creep/32/6366_2.png) [@Boost\_Creep](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Boost_Creep)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2009, 6:54am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/93-meth-vs-c16/246676/9 "2009-09-09T06:54:36Z")
What size turbo’s are EVO guys running @ 35PSI? 30r’s probably. ---
**Author:** ![94Gt5.0](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/94gt5.0/32/6377_2.png) [@94Gt5.0](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/94Gt5.0)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2009, 6:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/93-meth-vs-c16/246676/10 "2009-09-09T06:57:07Z")
“Adam Secour’s '01 Mustang GT has a 300ci engine, Fox Lake Stage 2 heads, a Fox Lake-spec camshaft, a Logan sheetmetal intake, and a ProCharger F1A blower. He said on race fuel and meth/pump gas, they were able to coax 695 rwhp from the street-driven Stang. That was done with 21 psi of boost and 17 degrees of timing.” - High boost is doable as well, especially with the evo fucks!! Cossey, wtf you doing on a Mustang site?? :lol ---
**Author:** ![Cossey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Cossey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cossey)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2009, 6:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/93-meth-vs-c16/246676/11 "2009-09-09T06:59:16Z")
> [@94Gt5.0"](#): > > “Adam Secour’s '01 Mustang GT has a 300ci engine, Fox Lake Stage 2 heads, a Fox Lake-spec camshaft, a Logan sheetmetal intake, and a ProCharger F1A blower. He said on race fuel and meth/pump gas, they were able to coax 695 rwhp from the street-driven Stang. That was done with 21 psi of boost and 17 degrees of timing.” > > - High boost is doable as well, especially with the evo fucks!! > > Cossey, wtf you doing on a Mustang site?? :lol It was posted on a Porsche site lol. ---
**Author:** ![tdi\_logik](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tdi_logik/32/6310_2.png) [@tdi\_logik](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tdi_logik)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2009, 7:00am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/93-meth-vs-c16/246676/12 "2009-09-09T07:00:36Z")
> [@anyone ever try this energy stuff?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-ever-try-this-energy-stuff/22747/8): > > What size turbo’s are EVO guys running @ 35PSI? 30r’s probably. and bigger fp red’s, greens, hta greens, hta86/82’s hta37r’s PTE 6262, 6765’s list keeps goin lol on these turbos guys usually run 30-32 on straight pump… ---
**Author:** ![deadbeatrec](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/deadbeatrec/32/6401_2.png) [@deadbeatrec](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/deadbeatrec)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2009, 7:06am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/93-meth-vs-c16/246676/13 "2009-09-09T07:06:33Z")
> [@anyone ever try this energy stuff?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-ever-try-this-energy-stuff/22747/8): > > What size turbo’s are EVO guys running @ 35PSI? 30r’s probably. much bigger than 30r’s i think u are just hating because u want it but refuse to conform. ---
**Author:** ![Boost\_Creep](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boost_creep/32/6366_2.png) [@Boost\_Creep](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Boost_Creep)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2009, 7:07am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/93-meth-vs-c16/246676/14 "2009-09-09T07:07:41Z")
> [@tdi\_logik"](#): > > and bigger > > fp red’s, greens, hta greens, hta86/82’s > > hta37r’s > PTE 6262, 6765’s list keeps goin lol > > **on these turbos guys usually run 30-32 on straight pump** … Can someone explain how this works? Meth can keep detonation down? I guess I need to read up on the 4G63. ---
**Author:** ![tdi\_logik](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tdi_logik/32/6310_2.png) [@tdi\_logik](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tdi_logik)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2009, 7:12am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/93-meth-vs-c16/246676/15 "2009-09-09T07:12:17Z")
> [@Time Warner and Fox](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/time-warner-and-fox/22702/40): > > Can someone explain how this works? Meth can keep detonation down? > > I guess I need to read up on the 4G63. big 4-4.5in intercoolers to keep detonation from happenening. ---
**Author:** ![Boost\_Creep](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boost_creep/32/6366_2.png) [@Boost\_Creep](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Boost_Creep)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2009, 7:13am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/93-meth-vs-c16/246676/16 "2009-09-09T07:13:30Z")
> [@Time Warner and Fox](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/time-warner-and-fox/22702/42): > > big 4-4.5in intercoolers to keep detonation from happenening. Gotta be more than a big intercooler. I’m not hating. I dont hate on any platform. I’m just trying to understand. ---
**Author:** ![psi2high](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/psi2high/32/6320_2.png) [@psi2high](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/psi2high)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2009, 7:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/93-meth-vs-c16/246676/17 "2009-09-09T07:19:45Z")
Meth cools the intake charge. Like a really bad ass intercooler. Then when you add a bad ass is intercooler its twice as effective ---
**Author:** ![tdi\_logik](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tdi_logik/32/6310_2.png) [@tdi\_logik](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tdi_logik)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2009, 7:22am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/93-meth-vs-c16/246676/18 "2009-09-09T07:22:55Z")
> [@anyone ever try this energy stuff?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-ever-try-this-energy-stuff/22747/10): > > Gotta be more than a big intercooler. > > I’m not hating. I dont hate on any platform. I’m just trying to understand. could be, i’m not a master t00ner or some kind of engineer but i’ll link you to some threads > **[DG Motor's Tuned 67-65 (624whp/370wtq) 93 Octane.Video! - EvolutionM -...](https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/evo-dyno-tuning-results/442771-dg-motor-s-tuned-67-65-624whp-370wtq-93-octane-video.html)** > > Evo Dyno Tuning / Results - DG Motor's Tuned 67-65 (624whp/370wtq) 93 Octane.Video! - Last night we had a semi-private dyno session with a built evo 9 running the billet 67-65. Unfortunately I can not give away too much information as the owner of... ^^car should go 140+ in the 1/4 on pump > **[TTP tuned 2006 Evo IX 552whp on 93 6265! - EvolutionM - Mitsubishi Lancer and...](https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/evo-dyno-tuning-results/441950-ttp-tuned-2006-evo-ix-552whp-93-6265-a.html)** > > Evo Dyno Tuning / Results - TTP tuned 2006 Evo IX 552whp on 93 6265! - http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y117/dsm95hybrid/sean\_DYNO.jpg Sean really loves the Evo. He has had a few of them over the past few years. The newest, a white 2006 IX GSR was... 32psi on pump^^^ > **[TTP's Dynotesting of the 4" ETS FMIC vs. STOCK 3" on FPHTA86, results inside!...](https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/evo-dyno-tuning-results/430648-ttp-s-dynotesting-4-ets-fmic-vs-stock-3-fphta86-results-inside.html)** > > Evo Dyno Tuning / Results - TTP's Dynotesting of the 4" ETS FMIC vs. STOCK 3" on FPHTA86, results inside! - http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y117/dsm95hybrid/ttp\_fmic\_stock\_dyno.jpg What a busy week... Whew... Well we finally received our 4 ETS FMIC... made 600AWHP on straight pump i think it was 33 psi iirc. not sure though its in the thread. > **[Stock Block, FP Red on Pump 469whp - EvolutionM - Mitsubishi Lancer and...](https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/evo-dyno-tuning-results/427017-stock-block-fp-red-pump-469whp.html)** > > Evo Dyno Tuning / Results - Stock Block, FP Red on Pump 469whp - Mod List 80mm FP Red with an extreme porting service from PPI PPI Extreme ported exhaust manifold PPI ported intake manifold PPI 65mm ported stock TB EPM o2 Dump DC Sports DP Apexi N1... heres an FP RED on straight pump gas… this car should go 126-127 from the power it made on there dyno 29 psi^^ this was just a quick peek in the dyno section on evom. ---
**Author:** ![Boost\_Creep](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boost_creep/32/6366_2.png) [@Boost\_Creep](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Boost_Creep)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2009, 7:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/93-meth-vs-c16/246676/19 "2009-09-09T07:23:53Z")
^ Thanks for the links, I’ll check em out. ---
**Author:** ![Code\_Blue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7ea924/32.png) [@Code\_Blue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Code_Blue)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2009, 7:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/93-meth-vs-c16/246676/20 "2009-09-09T19:09:45Z")
hmm i’d like to see it on a 4088r :ninja [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/93-meth-vs-c16/246676.md?page=2)