# 95 eclipse dropout motor

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/95-eclipse-dropout-motor/177255>\
**Category:** PittSpeed Automotive\
**Created:** [September 24, 2005, 1:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/95-eclipse-dropout-motor/177255 "2005-09-24T13:41:19Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![BlackZ28](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blackz28/32/5932_2.png) [@BlackZ28](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BlackZ28)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2005, 1:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/95-eclipse-dropout-motor/177255/1 "2005-09-24T13:41:19Z")

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i might have a chance buying a 95 eclipse (non turbo) with a blown motor, cheaply. where could i get a dropout motor cheap? i’d probably just put a new motor in this car then sell it. how much do you guys think a dropout motor would cost?

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**Author:** ![T70\_Tsi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/898d66/32.png) [@T70\_Tsi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/T70_Tsi)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2005, 2:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/95-eclipse-dropout-motor/177255/2 "2005-09-24T14:43:40Z")

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probably pretty cheap since they’re not really sought after

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**Author:** ![turboTSI1320](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b782af/32.png) [@turboTSI1320](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/turboTSI1320)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2005, 4:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/95-eclipse-dropout-motor/177255/3 "2005-09-24T16:42:17Z")

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> [@BlackZ28](#):
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> i might have a chance buying a 95 eclipse (non turbo) with a blown motor, cheaply. where could i get a dropout motor cheap? i’d probably just put a new motor in this car then sell it. how much do you guys think a dropout motor would cost?

Doubtful that your going to get more then 2grand for a 95 non turbo. Its probly not worth your time.

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**Author:** ![BlackZ28](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blackz28/32/5932_2.png) [@BlackZ28](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BlackZ28)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2005, 8:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/95-eclipse-dropout-motor/177255/4 "2005-09-25T20:42:06Z")

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what if i can get the car for 400 bucks?

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**Author:** ![neonmike22](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ba8739/32.png) [@neonmike22](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/neonmike22)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2005, 10:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/95-eclipse-dropout-motor/177255/5 "2005-09-25T22:02:04Z")

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> [@BlackZ28](#):
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> what if i can get the car for 400 bucks?

Get it running, this ricer kid with a silver one that goes by my house about 20x a night will probably wreck his soon and need a new one.

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**Author:** ![imported\_gearhead](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/imported_gearhead/32/5957_2.png) [@imported\_gearhead](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/imported_gearhead)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2005, 12:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/95-eclipse-dropout-motor/177255/6 "2005-09-26T12:22:23Z")

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is that a 420a motor? and also, is it the same as a neon motor? I always wondered that…

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**Author:** ![eurodad](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/eurodad/32/5988_2.png) [@eurodad](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/eurodad)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2005, 12:33pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/95-eclipse-dropout-motor/177255/7 "2005-09-26T12:33:00Z")

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> [@gearhead](#):
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> is that a 420a motor? and also, is it the same as a neon motor? I always wondered that…

i put one in my brothers eclipse a few years ago, i believe they are the same…

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**Author:** ![BlackZ28](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blackz28/32/5932_2.png) [@BlackZ28](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BlackZ28)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2005, 12:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/95-eclipse-dropout-motor/177255/8 "2005-09-26T12:43:13Z")

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from what i’ve read, yes the 420a is the same motor as certain neons

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**Author:** ![neonmike22](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ba8739/32.png) [@neonmike22](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/neonmike22)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2005, 1:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/95-eclipse-dropout-motor/177255/9 "2005-09-26T13:01:41Z")

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> [@gearhead](#):
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> is that a 420a motor? and also, is it the same as a neon motor? I always wondered that…

The basic block and crank assembly is the same, just about everything else on the eclipse is different.

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**Author:** ![imported\_gearhead](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/imported_gearhead/32/5957_2.png) [@imported\_gearhead](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/imported_gearhead)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2005, 5:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/95-eclipse-dropout-motor/177255/10 "2005-09-26T17:26:25Z")

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so 2 yes and 1 no . . . interesting

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**Author:** ![T70\_Tsi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/898d66/32.png) [@T70\_Tsi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/T70_Tsi)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2005, 5:49pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/95-eclipse-dropout-motor/177255/11 "2005-09-26T17:49:57Z")

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no they’re not the same

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**Author:** ![vw16vcabby](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vw16vcabby/32/5943_2.png) [@vw16vcabby](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/vw16vcabby)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2005, 6:50pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/95-eclipse-dropout-motor/177255/12 "2005-09-29T18:50:53Z")

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the eclipse n/a motor goes for an easy 800-1k from a wrecker. motors are hot sellers.

best bet is to find one via private party.

and the car itself, i could see if getting 4k. look at how many girls want that car, and parents buy it for them.

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**Author:** ![1320](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/1320/32/5949_2.png) [@1320](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/1320)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2005, 2:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/95-eclipse-dropout-motor/177255/13 "2005-10-03T14:46:34Z")

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> [@BlackZ28](#):
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> from what i’ve read, yes the 420a is the same motor as certain neons

I think the intake/exhaust manifolds are backwards if im not mistaking. The neons have the exhaust manifold on the back of the motor. Where as the eclipse has it on the front.

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**Author:** ![neonmike22](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ba8739/32.png) [@neonmike22](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/neonmike22)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2005, 3:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/95-eclipse-dropout-motor/177255/14 "2005-10-03T15:31:26Z")

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> [@unicorn](#):
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> I think the intake/exhaust manifolds are backwards if im not mistaking. The neons have the exhaust manifold on the back of the motor. Where as the eclipse has it on the front.

That’s correct, the ports and chambers on the head are mirrored, and the manifolds are completely different.

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**Author:** ![EclipseRST](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/49beb7/32.png) [@EclipseRST](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/EclipseRST)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2005, 5:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/95-eclipse-dropout-motor/177255/15 "2005-10-03T17:28:27Z")

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Short blocks are identical. Heads are where the difference is. The head on the Neon is reversed from the Eclipse. Otherwise all is the same down to the tranny. Only difference are the 95 Neons that came with the Non-modular clutches.

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**Author:** ![neonmike22](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ba8739/32.png) [@neonmike22](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/neonmike22)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2005, 7:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/95-eclipse-dropout-motor/177255/16 "2005-10-03T19:39:07Z")

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> [@EclipseRST](#):
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> Otherwise all is the same down to the tranny. Only difference are the 95 Neons that came with the Non-modular clutches.

Are the eclipse clutches cable operated?

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**Author:** ![T70\_Tsi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/898d66/32.png) [@T70\_Tsi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/T70_Tsi)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2005, 7:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/95-eclipse-dropout-motor/177255/17 "2005-10-03T19:40:54Z")

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the turbo models arne’t so i dont’ see why the non turbos would be

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**Author:** ![EclipseRST](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/49beb7/32.png) [@EclipseRST](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/EclipseRST)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2005, 2:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/95-eclipse-dropout-motor/177255/18 "2005-10-04T14:19:47Z")

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No they are Hydraulic, the difference in the 95 Neon is that the clutch is non-modular. The rest are all modular.

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**Author:** ![neonmike22](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ba8739/32.png) [@neonmike22](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/neonmike22)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2005, 3:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/95-eclipse-dropout-motor/177255/19 "2005-10-04T15:26:59Z")

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> [@EclipseRST](#):
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> No they are Hydraulic, the difference in the 95 Neon is that the clutch is non-modular. The rest are all modular.

Ok, neons have a cable clutch, so a bellhousing swap would be in order to use one on the other. The rest aren’t all modular, as '96-99 cars built in Mexico were non-modular.

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**Author:** ![1320](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/1320/32/5949_2.png) [@1320](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/1320)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2005, 4:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/95-eclipse-dropout-motor/177255/20 "2005-10-04T16:25:31Z")

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> [@neonmike22](#):
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> That’s correct, the ports and chambers on the head are mirrored, and the manifolds are completely different.

booooooo yaaaaaaaa :bigok:

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