# 951 winter progress **URL:** \ **Category:** Builds\ **Created:** [November 1, 2006, 2:57pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/951-winter-progress/19571 "2006-11-01T14:57:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![The\_Russian](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/the_russian/32/7414_2.png) [@The\_Russian](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/The_Russian)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2006, 4:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/951-winter-progress/19571/41 "2006-11-04T16:13:42Z")
True, but you need the comprehension and mechanical know how to do it nonethless. The most complex thing i have done is plugs and wires on my buick :(. I have zero to no skills. Although if someone wanted to take me under their wing that would be fantastic. ---
**Author:** ![TRP951](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b77776/32.png) [@TRP951](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TRP951)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2006, 8:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/951-winter-progress/19571/42 "2006-11-04T20:55:24Z")
yea you think your car is a nightmare have you ever seen the 951 engine compartment. It is so tight to work on and a simple 4 bolts for the crossover pipe to the turbo takes like hours there is very limited space. Im sure mike will agree that ---
**Author:** ![The\_Russian](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/the_russian/32/7414_2.png) [@The\_Russian](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/The_Russian)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2006, 9:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/951-winter-progress/19571/43 "2006-11-04T21:38:29Z")
Never said mine was a nightmare, just that, thats the most extensive work ive done on it. Mines actually roomy, i could get my arm all the way in there and change the plugs by feel. ---
**Author:** ![Protonus](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/protonus/32/7382_2.png) [@Protonus](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Protonus)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2006, 4:18am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/951-winter-progress/19571/44 "2006-11-05T04:18:24Z")
Mike a couple of P car noob questions… What’s the torque tube you’re reffering too? I’ve never even heard of that part, probably due to my permanent residence in FWD land… And why do you have a cross over tube / what is it’s function? I stared at the pic for quite some time… kinda coming up blank on how the exhaust system works on that motor. Hoping perhaps I’m not the only one wondering so maybe those answers will help someone else… Either way, good luck as usual. ---
**Author:** ![MPD47](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mpd47/32/7383_2.png) [@MPD47](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MPD47)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2006, 7:06am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/951-winter-progress/19571/45 "2006-11-05T07:06:26Z")
Jim, I’ll have photos of the torque tube and I can explain that later (it’s not just because you’ve been in FWD land, not many cars use them). As for the crossover pipe… ![http://www.mturck.com/944/Nov06/DSCF5877.jpg](http://www.mturck.com/944/Nov06/DSCF5877.jpg) The exhaust manifolds/exhaust ports are on the right, headers 1-4 and 2-3 come down to seperate flanges, which connect to the crossoverpipe, which comes down below the oil pan, seperates off for the stock external wastegate, and continues around to the other side of the engine. Once there it spirals upward, around the steering shaft, behind the downpipe and then pops out again just behind the turbo water pump to feed the hot side of the turbo. Overly complex, and impossible to work on, which is why I’m getting a new one, with vband clamps, in stainless this winter. ---
**Author:** ![MPD47](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mpd47/32/7383_2.png) [@MPD47](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MPD47)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2006, 3:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/951-winter-progress/19571/46 "2006-11-05T15:16:56Z")
Jim, a variation of a torque tube assembly is used in 924’s, 944’s, 968’s, 928’s, C5, and C6 corvettes. Basically, there is a bell housing on the engine which contains the clutch and flywheel and input shaft. The input shaft is actually a 1inch thick piece of solid chromemoly, which sits within 4 bearings, inside a large steel shaft. This goes to the 2nd bell housing, which bolts up to the bell housing on the transaxle. You then reach up through an access port in the transaxle and slide a coupler on to a spline between the transaxle and the chromemoly shaft. No, that’s not sketchy (the coupler) I’ve never heard of or seen a failure even with guys running 600+ hp. You’ll smash the trans before you break that (as I’ve proven). The whole setup also helps to stiffen the chassis and provides a nice battering ram if you happen to get into an accident (prevents the transaxle or engine from ending up in the passanger cabin.). As for progress today, we got the transmission out of the Austin Healey (UHHHHHHHHHHHHHHG) It was so not meant to fit in that car, and we ended up standing in the car and walking it out from inside. Stripped down the Porsche engine to the long block with the turbo still sitting on it. Finally finished pulling the torque tube out, which is surprisingly lighter than it looks. Stripped down the front suspension (just need to pull the coil-overs and wheels off the hubs). I REALLY need to go buy a parts washer, I always used to just do stuff with brake clean, but I’m beyond that now, need to do it correctly (and it was getting expensive). The car itself has the brake booster, some wiring, dashboard, hatch, and doors still left on it, and is sitting on a pair of mover’s dollies. Gonna start stripping down the rear suspension tomorrow and finish taking the waterpump/pullies off the engine. ![http://www.mturck.com/944/Nov06/DSCF5884.jpg](http://www.mturck.com/944/Nov06/DSCF5884.jpg) ![http://www.mturck.com/944/Nov06/DSCF5886.jpg](http://www.mturck.com/944/Nov06/DSCF5886.jpg) Torque Tube awaits new bearings and delrin inserts. ![http://www.mturck.com/944/Nov06/DSCF5887.jpg](http://www.mturck.com/944/Nov06/DSCF5887.jpg) Intake and fuel rail, I like the Lindsey rail because it’s well made and does the job, and I can take it off with the intake. However the anodizing sucks on it, probably going to fix that this winter. ![http://www.mturck.com/944/Nov06/DSCF5891.jpg](http://www.mturck.com/944/Nov06/DSCF5891.jpg) Getting there… ![http://www.mturck.com/944/Nov06/DSCF5897.jpg](http://www.mturck.com/944/Nov06/DSCF5897.jpg) Crossover pipe, stock headers, the bane of my existance. ![http://www.mturck.com/944/Nov06/DSCF5918.jpg](http://www.mturck.com/944/Nov06/DSCF5918.jpg) All done for today. ---
**Author:** ![dmoffitt](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/dmoffitt/32/7455_2.png) [@dmoffitt](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dmoffitt)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2006, 3:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/951-winter-progress/19571/47 "2006-11-05T15:29:13Z")
fucking lot of progress mike, WOW shoulda bought my header _ducks_ ---
**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2006, 3:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/951-winter-progress/19571/48 "2006-11-05T15:29:30Z")
whats are the plans for the car?? ---
**Author:** ![MPD47](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mpd47/32/7383_2.png) [@MPD47](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MPD47)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2006, 4:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/951-winter-progress/19571/49 "2006-11-05T16:08:33Z")
Headers Crossover Pipe Downpipe Belts, Pulleys, Rollers Water Pump Finish AC Delete GT3 Seats Custom 6 point cage Finish interior Cut out rear floor/tire well Cut out front sheet metal forward of strut towers, keeping the bumper core intact. V-mount new intercooler and stock radiator Vent spare hood Modify rear 1/4 panels so 295 rear tires fit New Torque Tube Bearings and delrin inserts Refresh Transaxle New front case gasket New RMS Clean up a bunch of wiring Powdercoat a bunch of parts Possibly a cam That basically sums it up, we’ll see how much actually gets done. ---
**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2006, 4:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/951-winter-progress/19571/50 "2006-11-05T16:10:56Z")
fucking sweet man. goodluck with it ---
**Author:** ![Jagermeister](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f19dbf/32.png) [@Jagermeister](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jagermeister)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2006, 4:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/951-winter-progress/19571/51 "2006-11-05T16:13:14Z")
> [@MPD47](#): > > Headers > Crossover Pipe > Downpipe > Belts, Pulleys, Rollers > Water Pump > Finish AC Delete > GT3 Seats > Custom 6 point cage > Finish interior > Cut out rear floor/tire well > Cut out front sheet metal forward of strut towers, keeping the bumper core intact. > V-mount new intercooler and stock radiator > Vent spare hood > Modify rear 1/4 panels so 295 rear tires fit > New Torque Tube Bearings and delrin inserts > Refresh Transaxle > New front case gasket > New RMS > Clean up a bunch of wiring > Powdercoat a bunch of parts > Possibly a cam > > That basically sums it up, we’ll see how much actually gets done. That’s it? Should take about a week… ---
**Author:** ![POOPRA](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/poopra/32/7188_2.png) [@POOPRA](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/POOPRA)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2006, 4:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/951-winter-progress/19571/52 "2006-11-06T04:33:35Z")
nice to see the progress! ---
**Author:** ![woody](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/woody/32/7191_2.png) [@woody](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/woody)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2006, 8:18am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/951-winter-progress/19571/53 "2006-11-06T08:18:46Z")
wow :tup: ---
**Author:** ![MPD47](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mpd47/32/7383_2.png) [@MPD47](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MPD47)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2006, 4:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/951-winter-progress/19571/54 "2006-11-06T16:20:48Z")
Okaayyyyyy today’s update, tore down front and rear suspension, engine is down to the shortblock. Turbo is on the bench, cleaned up a bunch of parts. Cylinders look great other than a small score in #3, which wont be an issue. Transaxle is ready to go out (well, I need to put it on a pallet) initial estimate is a MINIMUM of $2k to get it back into shape, that’s if it wasnt anything serious… shit. ![http://www.mturck.com/944/Nov06/DSCF5938.jpg](http://www.mturck.com/944/Nov06/DSCF5938.jpg) The rear end monster. ![http://www.mturck.com/944/Nov06/DSCF5939.jpg](http://www.mturck.com/944/Nov06/DSCF5939.jpg) ![http://www.mturck.com/944/Nov06/DSCF5942.jpg](http://www.mturck.com/944/Nov06/DSCF5942.jpg) ![http://www.mturck.com/944/Nov06/DSCF5944.jpg](http://www.mturck.com/944/Nov06/DSCF5944.jpg) Oops. ![http://www.mturck.com/944/Nov06/DSCF5951.jpg](http://www.mturck.com/944/Nov06/DSCF5951.jpg) Found an old style oil pressure regulator. Damnit, atleast I have a new style sitting aronud. ![http://www.mturck.com/944/Nov06/DSCF5960.jpg](http://www.mturck.com/944/Nov06/DSCF5960.jpg) Starting to tear down ![http://www.mturck.com/944/Nov06/DSCF5965.jpg](http://www.mturck.com/944/Nov06/DSCF5965.jpg) Remember me saying there is an oil passage IN the motor mount, yeah, that’s it. :tdown: ![http://www.mturck.com/944/Nov06/DSCF5969.jpg](http://www.mturck.com/944/Nov06/DSCF5969.jpg) Looks mint :tup: ![http://www.mturck.com/944/Nov06/DSCF5978.jpg](http://www.mturck.com/944/Nov06/DSCF5978.jpg) Cam Tower off ![http://www.mturck.com/944/Nov06/DSCF5982.jpg](http://www.mturck.com/944/Nov06/DSCF5982.jpg) MINT ![http://www.mturck.com/944/Nov06/DSCF5984.jpg](http://www.mturck.com/944/Nov06/DSCF5984.jpg) Crank pulley stopped me from pulling the plastic cover off and working on the water pump/front case today. Now where did that puller go… ![http://www.mturck.com/944/Nov06/DSCF5986.jpg](http://www.mturck.com/944/Nov06/DSCF5986.jpg) I’m starting to have way to many engine parts on the bench, two more cylinder heads are joining those. ![http://www.mturck.com/944/Nov06/DSCF5985.jpg](http://www.mturck.com/944/Nov06/DSCF5985.jpg) Current state of things… torque tube should get torn down next week ---
**Author:** ![dmoffitt](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/dmoffitt/32/7455_2.png) [@dmoffitt](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dmoffitt)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2006, 9:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/951-winter-progress/19571/55 "2006-11-06T21:45:40Z")
subframe looks familiar 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Willybeen](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/willybeen/32/7351_2.png) [@Willybeen](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Willybeen)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2006, 9:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/951-winter-progress/19571/56 "2006-11-06T21:54:25Z")
sooo sad looking… ---
**Author:** ![MPD47](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mpd47/32/7383_2.png) [@MPD47](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MPD47)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2006, 8:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/951-winter-progress/19571/57 "2006-11-08T20:26:45Z")
No updates till next week, but some guys I know on rennlist found the burnout video that made it’s way to street fire and are ragging me pretty hard in a playful manner. ---
**Author:** ![TRP951](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b77776/32.png) [@TRP951](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TRP951)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2006, 8:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/951-winter-progress/19571/58 "2006-11-08T20:40:13Z")
🤣 I saw that on rennlist and I laughed so loud. Mike I dont know if you got my PM but I have to work friday so I will bring the things to my work or if you will be around sat I have the whole day off ---
**Author:** ![The\_Russian](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/the_russian/32/7414_2.png) [@The\_Russian](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/The_Russian)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2006, 9:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/951-winter-progress/19571/59 "2006-11-08T21:18:04Z")
i was gonna say, and this is why we dont do 200 ft burnouts ---
**Author:** ![brent\_strong](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/brent_strong/32/7203_2.png) [@brent\_strong](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/brent_strong)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2006, 9:57pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/951-winter-progress/19571/60 "2006-11-08T21:57:02Z")
It isn’t the burnouts that’ll get ya (if you have a diff that doesn’t suck), it’s the traction that kills. Believe it or not, a “correctly” done burnout isn’t abusive on much other than the tires. [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/951-winter-progress/19571.md?page=2) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/951-winter-progress/19571.md?page=4)