# 95d16turbo's ls vtec build **URL:** \ **Category:** Builds\ **Created:** [November 11, 2008, 8:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/95d16turbos-ls-vtec-build/57995 "2008-11-11T20:10:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![95d16turbo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/9/977dab/32.png) [@95d16turbo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/95d16turbo)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2008, 8:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/95d16turbos-ls-vtec-build/57995/21 "2008-11-11T20:47:51Z")
> [@BREETIME](#): > > dont run a cam like that with boost, that is all motor cam. > id keep the block guard. > and run the vites for the rod and crank mains. heard bad things from acl ive heard pros and cons to both clevite and acl. i guess well find out on initial start up. thanks for the input guys. much appreciated ---
**Author:** ![BREETIME](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/breetime/32/5214_2.png) [@BREETIME](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BREETIME)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2008, 8:49pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/95d16turbos-ls-vtec-build/57995/22 "2008-11-11T20:49:16Z")
> [@95d16turbo](#): > > ive heard pros and cons to both clevite and acl. i guess well find out on initial start up. > > thanks for the input guys. > much appreciated you’ll most likely find out mid pull, good luck ---
**Author:** ![jt76](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jt76/32/5100_2.png) [@jt76](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jt76)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2008, 8:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/95d16turbos-ls-vtec-build/57995/23 "2008-11-11T20:51:06Z")
so for the real question, what kind of power/ times are we shooting for here? ---
**Author:** ![Saxon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@Saxon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Saxon)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2008, 8:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/95d16turbos-ls-vtec-build/57995/24 "2008-11-11T20:55:37Z")
> [@95d16turbo](#): > > im not trying to bash your knowledge or anything but guy at klispie measured the bearings and everything. made sure shit would work out. > > im going to re measure and re re measure everything to be 1,000,000% sure its all good. if not, honda dealer here i come. but thanks for the input man, thats why i started this thread > > oh, and i am going to be checking line bore and everything with the main studs in. how can he measure your clearances when the bearings are still in the package? im telling you how to tell if they will work, get the letters off teh bottom of your block and the crank and post them and i will try to help you as much as i can if you post the block yes you can sleave it at a later date a “post” is a thread/stud that goes from outside the block and has slight contact with the outer sleave why would you start up a motor if you were concerned about the clearances acl race bearings are a good bearing (along with cleavite) but i prefer oem honda bearings because they have different sizes unlike cleavite/acl etc i would highly suggest you bring the bottom end to a machinist to have them double check clearances with your bearings at the least (sorry but it seems your in a bit over your head) i also agree about the cams, gsr or type R cams will give you the ability to make more power than you will ever need (unless you want 800+) ---
**Author:** ![95d16turbo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/9/977dab/32.png) [@95d16turbo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/95d16turbo)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2008, 8:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/95d16turbos-ls-vtec-build/57995/25 "2008-11-11T20:59:30Z")
> [@alpha earl](#): > > how can he measure your clearances when the bearings are still in the package? > > im telling you how to tell if they will work, get the letters off teh bottom of your block and the crank and post them and i will try to help you as much as i can > > if you post the block yes you can sleave it at a later date > > a “post” is a thread/stud that goes from outside the block and has slight contact with the outer sleave > > why would you start up a motor if you were concerned about the clearances > > acl race bearings are a good bearing (along with cleavite) but i prefer oem honda bearings because they have different sizes unlike cleavite/acl etc > > i would highly suggest you bring the bottom end to a machinist to have them double check clearances with your bearings at the least (sorry but it seems your in a bit over your head) > > i also agree about the cams, gsr or type R cams will give you the ability to make more power than you will ever need (unless you want 800+) i am not building this in my garage. im building this at ECC where the instructor has been building race motors for decades. i was joking about the startup thing. thats just the way i am. i will gladly get the numbers and post them. wont be till later in the week though. ---
**Author:** ![Birdman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/birdman/32/5186_2.png) [@Birdman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Birdman)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2008, 9:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/95d16turbos-ls-vtec-build/57995/26 "2008-11-11T21:00:00Z")
[quote=alpha earl;1161678]i would sincerely suggest you ditch the block guard and the arp mains would running arp mains hurt the build or just not necessary? ---
**Author:** ![95d16turbo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/9/977dab/32.png) [@95d16turbo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/95d16turbo)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2008, 9:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/95d16turbos-ls-vtec-build/57995/27 "2008-11-11T21:00:02Z")
> [@jt76](#): > > so for the real question, what kind of power/ times are we shooting for here? im hoping to break the 500hp mark. not sure on times ---
**Author:** ![jt76](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jt76/32/5100_2.png) [@jt76](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jt76)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2008, 9:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/95d16turbos-ls-vtec-build/57995/28 "2008-11-11T21:01:37Z")
> [@95d16turbo](#): > > im hoping to break the 500hp mark. > not sure on times lol looking for 10’s? :tup: ---
**Author:** ![Saxon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@Saxon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Saxon)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2008, 9:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/95d16turbos-ls-vtec-build/57995/29 "2008-11-11T21:02:12Z")
> [@Birdman](#): > > [quote=alpha earl;1161678]i would sincerely suggest you ditch the block guard and the arp mains > > would running arp mains hurt the build or just not necessary? not necessary and would require extra machining of the main journals as they would need align honed/bored ---
**Author:** ![Saxon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@Saxon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Saxon)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2008, 9:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/95d16turbos-ls-vtec-build/57995/30 "2008-11-11T21:04:33Z")
> [@95d16turbo](#): > > im hoping to break the 500hp mark. > not sure on times i just dont see that happening on a 57 or 60 trim (assuming since you said t3/t4) realistic goals would be 400 on pump gas and 450-490 maxing out a common 60 trim turbo if you want 500 whp i would suggest an sc61 or bigger for your goals ---
**Author:** ![95d16turbo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/9/977dab/32.png) [@95d16turbo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/95d16turbo)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2008, 9:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/95d16turbos-ls-vtec-build/57995/31 "2008-11-11T21:05:02Z")
> [@jt76](#): > > lol looking for 10’s? :tup: who isnt? ---
**Author:** ![95d16turbo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/9/977dab/32.png) [@95d16turbo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/95d16turbo)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2008, 9:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/95d16turbos-ls-vtec-build/57995/32 "2008-11-11T21:05:41Z")
> [@alpha earl](#): > > i just dont see that happening on a 57 or 60 trim (assuming since you said t3/t4) > > realistic goals would be 400 on pump gas and 450-490 maxing out a common 60 trim turbo > > if you want 500 whp i would suggest an sc61 or bigger for your goals i was leanin more towards the garrett t3/t4 .63 trim ---
**Author:** ![BREETIME](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/breetime/32/5214_2.png) [@BREETIME](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BREETIME)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2008, 9:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/95d16turbos-ls-vtec-build/57995/33 "2008-11-11T21:06:25Z")
you gunna be able to handle 500wh in 2000 pound chassis? ---
**Author:** ![95d16turbo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/9/977dab/32.png) [@95d16turbo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/95d16turbo)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2008, 9:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/95d16turbos-ls-vtec-build/57995/34 "2008-11-11T21:07:31Z")
> [@BREETIME](#): > > you gunna be able to handle 500wh in 2000 pound chassis? not right off the bat but ill learn ---
**Author:** ![Saxon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@Saxon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Saxon)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2008, 9:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/95d16turbos-ls-vtec-build/57995/35 "2008-11-11T21:08:09Z")
> [@95d16turbo](#): > > i was leanin more towards the garrett t3/t4 .63 trim no such thing… there are the common 50, 57 and 60 trim garret the .63 your talking about is the housings ---
**Author:** ![BREETIME](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/breetime/32/5214_2.png) [@BREETIME](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BREETIME)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2008, 9:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/95d16turbos-ls-vtec-build/57995/36 "2008-11-11T21:08:42Z")
> [@95d16turbo](#): > > not right off the bat but ill learn you may be getting in over your head, i dont think it would be a bad idea to learn how to drive a car making around 300wh first 500 is a lot of power ---
**Author:** ![Saxon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@Saxon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Saxon)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2008, 9:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/95d16turbos-ls-vtec-build/57995/37 "2008-11-11T21:09:33Z")
300whp is more than enough for a street car 300whp in a 2,000 lb car is easy 11 second car ---
**Author:** ![BREETIME](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/breetime/32/5214_2.png) [@BREETIME](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BREETIME)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2008, 9:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/95d16turbos-ls-vtec-build/57995/38 "2008-11-11T21:11:06Z")
> [@alpha earl](#): > > 300whp is more than enough for a street car > > 300whp in a 2,000 lb car is easy 11 second car thats what im trying to say, you really dont understand how a 500whp eg reacts unless you drive one. people need to know how to do baby steps, its worth it in the end ---
**Author:** ![Saxon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@Saxon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Saxon)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2008, 9:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/95d16turbos-ls-vtec-build/57995/39 "2008-11-11T21:13:30Z")
some people just need to learn the hard way looks like he has a good start, but just needs a little help on the little details his motor with a 60 trim would be great on low boost untill he got used to it and then he could always turn it up ---
**Author:** ![95d16turbo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/9/977dab/32.png) [@95d16turbo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/95d16turbo)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2008, 9:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/95d16turbos-ls-vtec-build/57995/40 "2008-11-11T21:14:40Z")
> [@BREETIME](#): > > thats what im trying to say, you really dont understand how a 500whp eg reacts unless you drive one. > people need to know how to do baby steps, its worth it in the end i drove biffs teg on his new setup, thats around 400. plus, im not jumping right to 22lbs. takin it step by step [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/95d16turbos-ls-vtec-build/57995.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/95d16turbos-ls-vtec-build/57995.md?page=3)