# A 10 year old kid in an art class paints cars better than these guys.
**URL:** https://forums.speedlife.net/t/a-10-year-old-kid-in-an-art-class-paints-cars-better-than-these-guys/250977
**Category:** Shift518 Off Topic
**Created:** [March 19, 2010, 4:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/a-10-year-old-kid-in-an-art-class-paints-cars-better-than-these-guys/250977 "2010-03-19T16:25:54Z")
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### Author:  [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)
#### Post date: [March 19, 2010, 4:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/a-10-year-old-kid-in-an-art-class-paints-cars-better-than-these-guys/250977/1 "2010-03-19T16:25:54Z")
This is quite a horrific story.
At first as I was scrolling down, I was mildly amused and took it in as another fuck up by a “body shop” but the further down I scrolled the more Epic it became.
[http://my350z.com/forum/the-lounge-off-topic/389628-horrible-body-shop-experience-details-inside-350z-ruined.html](http://my350z.com/forum/the-lounge-off-topic/389628-horrible-body-shop-experience-details-inside-350z-ruined.html)
> What’s this?
> Flaking paint already?
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> This happened as he was pressure washing it.
> I don’t see any special brackets?
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> Look clearly by the lower right corner of the [license plate](http://my350z.com/forum/#).
> Why is it wavy like that?
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> Apparently, he drilled the kit onto the bumper, then bondo’d over the holes.
> Wait, DRILLED into my bumpers?
> What about going back to stock?
> I was clearly told going back to stock wouldn’t be a problem.
> That’s a MAJOR problem.
> The sideskirts being DRILLED into my chassis makes that a problem.
> The front lip being DRILLED into my bumper makes that a problem.
> Wait, why is my body line off?
> 
> When I picked up my car, I was told he had to raise the door a little bit for clearance on the sideskirt.
> Something I NEVER approved of.
> Wait, what’s this?
> 
> Is that a \*\*\*\*ing dent on my door?
> I clearly remember bringing in my car WITHOUT a dent on my door.
> It seems as if the door was dropped. Not only is dented, the paint is cracked right down the middle.
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> I don’t see how this is oem fitment.
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> What’s this?
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> My friend witnessed me barely scrape
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> It literally peeled right off. \*\*\*\*, rattle can withstands more than this garbage.
> Why is there a gap where my door meets the fender?
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> I CLEARLY remember dropping off my car, unmolested.(I have never removed any body part on my Z.
> Here’s the rest of the damage we found today.
> Is that rust? Why, yes. Yes it is.
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> Hinge that was moved.
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> We dropped the car off, stock. All tabs in place.
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> Runs…
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> Oh, nice. Overspray.
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> Wtf? This wasn’t there when we dropped off the car.
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> Underneath the rear bumper.
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> Look at the stock bumper, then look at the lip kit.
> There’s NO clear on the lip kit underneath there.
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> Mmmm, orange peel.
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> Stock compared to painted lip.
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> More screws…
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> Body line screwed up.(Mike moved the doors…)
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> Ohhhh, very nice.
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> The kit on the ends is smooth to the touch. As in, NO PREP WORK WAS DONE.
> Wait wait wait…what’s this?
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> Is that WOOD?
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> I didn’t know [cars](http://my350z.com/forum/#) still used wood!
> So much for flex additive…
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> Sparkly reflective [tires](http://my350z.com/forum/#) are awesome!
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> Rear lip…
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> Just by looking at the sides and rear, you can easily tell they’re not color matched.
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> Kit coming apart from the bumper.
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> Clear overspray. Who doesn’t love overspray?
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> This is on the ENTIRE car by the way. Not just a little here and there.
> I don’t even want to know what the hell happened there…
> 
> So, more to come. I’m sure we’ll find more stuff wrong with the car soon.
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### Author:  [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)
#### Post date: [March 19, 2010, 4:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/a-10-year-old-kid-in-an-art-class-paints-cars-better-than-these-guys/250977/2 "2010-03-19T16:26:32Z")
Convo
> I’ll be posting this up for Brian(aka **Serris/Rubicant** on the forums) to get the word out on this horrible shop. I’m doing this to get the word out on Import Image/iDesign. It’s gonna be a long post, so be prepared.
> **Please feel free to post this on every car forum you’re on.**
> We’re not posting this to have people feel sorry for us.
> We’re posting this because we want to let people know about the work Import Image/iDesign has to offer.
> All of the work was done at this shop:
> [iDesign | Import Image Inc - WEBSITE COMING SOON!](http://www.importimageinc.com/)
> Michael Quinn
> iDesigns / Import Image
> 921 Fairway Dr.
> Walnut, CA 91789
> **10-9-08**
**> DO NOT CONFUSE THIS WITH IMPORT IMAGE LOCATED IN FLORIDA:
> [http://www.importimageonline.com/](http://www.importimageonline.com/)
> THEY ARE 2 DIFFERENT COMPANIES WITH THE SAME NAME.**
**> My350z staff,**
> **VO**
> If you have any comments, suggestions as to what should be done, or just about any other input, please feel free to post.
> NOTICE TO ALL OTHER FORUM VIEWERS
> **Refrain from using violence and making threats toward Mike. It’s true, he did screw up the Z, but no one deserves to have death threats made toward their lives or bottles thrown at them. Stop lashing out on someone that has done absolutely no harm to you. If you’re not involved with Mike in any way, shape, or form, then you shouldn’t even be contacting him. IT’S THAT SIMPLE.**
> **Take the time to read through this first page. A lot of wrong information is being spread out like herpes throughout the other forums. People see pictures, $250 price tag, and immediately think “you get what you pay for” or “owner is stupid for thinking he’d get a good finish”.**
**> $750 was the total price paid for this garbage.**
> **As far as the finish goes…**
> **We were pointing things out as soon as we arrived. Mike promised they would be fixed. I pointed out the door dent, the runs, the orange peel, the screws, the flaking paint, practically everything. Again, he promised they’d be fixed, but after we saw the damage done to the car, we weren’t going to leave the car there ever again.**
**> We had to visually inspect every aspect of the car a day later because the car wasn’t going to be staying at Mike’s for obvious reasons.**
**> Brian was wearing new Mechanix gloves because we had to raise the car at his friend’s house.(Yeah, that funny colored house doesn’t belong to neither one of us). The car was literally 1" off the ground after the kit was installed.(Yes, it was that low). It wouldn’t survive the trip to my house so we could work on it in my garage.**
**> He didn’t wear gloves just to remove wheels to not get his pretty little hands dirty. Coilovers had to be removed, adjusted, sway bars had to be removed, and things had to be re-installed and torqued to spec. So, all of you douchebags on other forums spreading the wrong information…quit being ignorant.**
> **READ. It does wonders.**
> Very bad review coming…
> So, after talking with Mike and hearing the good(and bad) things about him, I decided to give him a shot.
> I picked up a Urethane lip kit for my 350z.
> Without it even being test fitted, Mike had already quoted me at $250.
> That included all prep, installation, and paint.
> I dropped off the [car](http://my350z.com/forum/#) and lip kit at Mike’s shop on September 15, 2008(Monday) and was told it would be ready for pick-up on the 17th(Wednesday).
> The following day, I was told via AIM that fitment on the sideskirts was off and needed to be trimmed. Without my approval, he had already trimmed the sideskirts.
> Rather than asking me if I wanted to just return the kit and buy another one, he took it upon himself to trim it and make it fit.
> He showed me how the fitment WAS, then showed me how it fits now.(No approval on my end)
> Then, he reassured me he’d make it fit/mold it, etc.
> He then made a new invoice which was now at $730.69. A $480 price hike from the original quote.
> The invoice included:
> “Front lip brackets for stability.
> Rear lip brackets for stability.
> Sideskirts, cut, fiberglass, and re-shape - 3 hours each.
> 4040 epoxy will be used to stabilize the sideskirt to [vehicle](http://my350z.com/forum/#).
> Sideskirt may be removed if needed.
> Work completed will not affect the fitment of OEM sideskirt.”
> I agreed, trusting him with my Z, that he would do his best possible work.
> Wednesday comes, my car isn’t ready.
> He said he had food poisoning.
> People get sick, that’s life. I understood, and was told my car would be ready by Friday/Saturday 9/19 - 9/20.
> Thursday, he told me via AIM he was stuck doing homework.
> Still reassured my car would be ready by Friday/Saturday.
> Again, start playing the waiting game.
> I never rushed him. If anything, I thought if it took him a few more days to complete my car, it would give him a chance to do even better work. Great opportunity to take his time and make sure everything is good to go.
> Friday comes, my car isn’t ready.
> Mike tells me I can come by and check out the progress.
> I head over on Saturday 9/20 expecting my car to be in the final stages nearing completion.
> When I arrive(around noon), my car was the same as when I saw it on Tuesday 9/18.
> The sideskirts were still black, not prepped.
> Nothing else had been done to my car.
> I could tell the rear hadn’t even been fitted on because my stock mud-guarts/valances were still in place. These NEED to be removed in order to install the rear lip.
> The sideskirt had been dremmeled where it meets the door jamb, thus scratching the paint off at the corner.
> Also, Mike attended a track event that same Saturday. He never once mentioned this to me.
> What’s he doing at a track event when my car needs to be completed? I am paying for this after all, aren’t I?
> Mad at the fact that my car wasn’t even near completion, I play the waiting game once again.
> On Monday, I ask him if I ever needed to go back to stock, if there would be any problems.
> Monday, September 22, 2008
> **ii quinn (12:25:46 PM): yes of course
> ii quinn (12:38:25 PM): but it wont be noticeable**
> rubicant1979 (12:38:26 PM): So, would I be able to get back to stock without any holes showing?
> rubicant1979 (12:38:29 PM): I see.
> **ii quinn (12:38:41 PM): yup
> ii quinn (12:38:48 PM): after u take off the lips, u can still sell
> ii quinn (12:38:51 PM): so i made sure of it**
> rubicant1979 (12:38:58 PM): Cool
> **ii quinn (12:39:00 PM): so ur not stuck w/ holes and cant sell the car if needed
> ii quinn (12:42:24 PM): ya, trust me, most places wouldnt even care about u like that… they will do the job, make it look bomb, when u say… ok mike take it off… theyw ill be like, i cant!**
> rubicant1979 (12:47:53 PM): hah
> **ii quinn (12:48:14 PM): im serious man, ur car is safe inside the shop right now and over the weekend
> ii quinn (12:48:22 PM): O O O O
> ii quinn (12:48:29 PM): ur car is super super super super low
> ii quinn (12:48:36 PM): hehe
> ii quinn (12:48:46 PM): looks hard tho**
> rubicant1979 (12:48:51 PM): Yeah, I will definitely have to raise it a bit.
> Okay, I’m relieved.
> I talk to him on Wednesday to see what progress has been done.
> Wednesday, September 24, 2008
> rubicant1979 (1:08:13 PM): Hey Mike
> rubicant1979 (1:08:22 PM): Got any pictures of the progress?
> **ii quinn (1:08:48 PM): yup hold**
> rubicant1979 (1:08:57 PM): Cool
> **ii quinn (1:11:24 PM): youll have to raise the car tonight, so i can finish the car, the jack does not go under the car at all
> ii quinn (1:11:47 PM): i have to shoo tthe sides on the car, since we had to make sure it fits the way it fits right now
> ii quinn (1:11:58 PM): let me show u how low the car is right now**
> rubicant1979 (1:12:35 PM): I see.
> **ii quinn (1:12:40 PM): if u cant raise it, its ok, i can make it work, it would be just a bit easier
> ii quinn (1:12:49 PM): for me at least haha, if not, let me know, so ill jackstand the car haha**
> rubicant1979 (1:12:52 PM): Can’t just drive up on a block of wood or something then jack it up?
> **ii quinn (1:13:00 PM): ya thats what i mean**
> rubicant1979 (1:13:34 PM): I think I have an idea of how low it is. I came by last Saturday to check it out.
> **ii quinn (1:13:40 PM): i test drove it around the complex, if i paint the sides now, ill scrape the under part of the sides all the time
> ii quinn (1:13:45 PM): yup, see what i mean
> ii quinn (1:13:47 PM): haha**
> rubicant1979 (1:13:49 PM): Yeah
> i**i quinn (1:13:57 PM): prettttty damn low!
> ii quinn (1:14:09 PM): looks so sick tho… but to low i think**
> rubicant1979 (1:14:09 PM): Yeah it is. When do you think it’ll be done?
> rubicant1979 (1:14:12 PM): Yeah
> **ii quinn (1:14:40 PM): if u approve of me just doing it that way, on jackstands, picki t up tomorrow after work
> ii quinn (1:14:48 PM): before the sun goes down, so u can see how the paint matches.**
> rubicant1979 (1:15:49 PM): That’s impossible for me unless I get off work 2-3 hours early, heh
> **ii quinn (1:15:54 PM): IMG\_2214.JPG**
> rubicant1979 (1:15:55 PM): Working in Burbank
> **ii quinn (1:16:03 PM): o ya
> ii quinn (1:16:18 PM): \*\*\*\* it, ok, get it after work, itll match haha**
> rubicant1979 (1:16:24 PM): Can’t take it off the car to paint?
> **ii quinn signed off at 1:18:24 PM
> ii quinn signed on at 1:28:57 PM
> ii quinn (1:31:29 PM): I had to use 4040, which is a super strong epoxy, to ensure fitment, quality, without having to mold the sides to the car.
> ii quinn (1:32:35 PM): computer died
> ii quinn (1:32:41 PM): stupid laptop**
> rubicant1979 (1:32:45 PM): Oh, so you did that after you test fitted them with the screws?
> rubicant1979 (1:32:46 PM): Oh, I see.
> **ii quinn (1:32:49 PM): yup**
> rubicant1979 (1:33:19 PM): So, it safe to take the kit off in the future if I sell the car?
> rubicant1979 (1:33:30 PM): it"s\*
> i**i quinn signed off at 1:35:28 PM
> ii quinn signed on at 1:44:18 PM
> ii quinn (1:45:50 PM): k back, stupid comp turned off again**
> rubicant1979 (1:45:59 PM): np man
> **ii quinn (1:46:01 PM): gay ass \*\*\*\***
> rubicant1979 (1:46:10 PM): I can probably fix it.
> **ii quinn (1:46:11 PM): but ya man, ok then come by after work, what time can u be here tomorrow ?
> ii quinn (1:46:15 PM): cool cool**
> rubicant1979 (1:46:37 PM): I’m not sure. Maybe around 8 give or take half an hour.
> rubicant1979 (1:46:44 PM): That’s the earliest.
> **ii quinn (1:47:19 PM): wow
> ii quinn (1:47:21 PM): haha**
> rubicant1979 (1:47:22 PM): I’ll let you know for sure in a couple hours.
> **ii quinn (1:47:29 PM): ok cool, let me know**
> rubicant1979 (1:49:10 PM): Alright
> **ii quinn signed off at 3:25:25 PM
> ii quinn signed on at 4:01:06 PM
> ii quinn signed off at 4:29:35 PM
> ii quinn signed on at 4:33:18 PM
> ii quinn signed off at 4:53:35 PM
> ii quinn signed on at 4:56:02 PM**
> rubicant1979 (4:57:25 PM): I can’t make it until 7:30 the earliest tomorrow.
> **ii quinn (4:57:57 PM): ok
> ii quinn (4:58:00 PM): thanks for the heads up
> ii quinn (4:58:11 PM): if i lag, internet been trippn and comp been shuttn down**
> rubicant1979 (4:58:21 PM): Alright.
> rubicant1979 (4:58:37 PM): I forgot, did you say the car will be done by tomorrow?
> **ii quinn (5:00:58 PM): haha, ya i said im shootn for it for tomorrow, right now im at the shop preppn and getn things ready so ya, worse case is tomorrow i have to buff
> ii quinn signed off at 5:05:57 PM
> ii quinn signed on at 5:25:16 PM**
> rubicant1979 (5:47:05 PM): Alright
> **ii quinn (6:02:51 PM): man, ur still at work
> ii quinn (6:02:54 PM): just like me!!!**
> rubicant1979 (6:03:22 PM): hah, I’ve stayed till 9:30 before.
> rubicant1979 (6:03:24 PM): For a week.
> **ii quinn (6:03:26 PM): haha
> ii quinn (6:03:34 PM): tight tight, we gotta do what we gotta do right
> ii quinn (6:03:43 PM): i have and will be here in and out til about 3am today
> rubicant1979 (6:03:45 PM): Yeah, gotta make ends meet.
> ii quinn (6:03:49 PM): to finish paintin ur stuff, and others stuff**
> rubicant1979 (6:03:49 PM): Damn
> **ii quinn (6:03:52 PM): EXACTLY!
> ii quinn (6:03:55 PM): husslers haha**
> rubicant1979 (6:04:22 PM): You live close to the shop?
> **ii quinn (6:04:49 PM): ya, thats why i am doing all this upgrades and trying to take carew of my customers… who can say, he lives and works close
> ii quinn (6:04:50 PM): haha
> ii quinn (6:04:54 PM): i can ride a bike
> ii quinn (6:04:55 PM): haha**
> rubicant1979 (6:04:58 PM): Nice
> rubicant1979 (6:26:26 PM): Alright, see you tomorrow. Finally heading home.
> Not even done yet…
> Okay, I was now promised my car would be ready on Thursday 9/25.
> Spoke to him Thursday morning.
> Thursday, September 25, 2008
> **ii quinn (10:02:55 AM): good morning**
> rubicant1979 (10:16:56 AM): Morning Mike
> rubicant1979 (10:17:03 AM): Did you end up staying really late?
> **ii quinn (10:17:19 AM): ya 2am, to finish a camry, then decided, ill sleep so i can be here early to do up your car
> ii quinn (10:17:24 AM): instead of doing your car while im super tired
> ii quinn (10:17:47 AM): in my line of work, \*\*\*\* ups in paint is not acceptable since it takes a lot of work to fix after haha
> ii quinn (10:18:10 AM): so ya, right now im finish up the side skirts paint and the front, so i can slap the kit by 2pm
> ii quinn (10:18:11 AM): -=o)
> ii quinn (10:18:18 AM): ill show u pics, to entertain u
> ii quinn (10:18:30 AM): so u can be working and think, 'YES! my cars done!"**
> rubicant1979 (10:18:47 AM): Cool man
> rubicant1979 (10:18:51 AM): I really miss my car, hah
> **ii quinn (10:18:54 AM): haha
> ii quinn (10:18:58 AM): its in good hands -=o)
> ii quinn (10:19:13 AM): when i see u later, ull see it**
> rubicant1979 (10:19:14 AM): Cool, I like to hear that
> rubicant1979 (10:19:19 AM): Alright
> **ii quinn (10:19:26 AM): i take care of it, as it was mine, and if you saw my s14, its nice and clean**
> rubicant1979 (10:19:35 AM): Yup
> **ii quinn signed off at 12:10:20 PM**
> Not done yet, huh?
> I spoke to him on Friday…
> Friday, September 26, 2008
> **ii quinn (12:41:43 PM): you what time u gettn out of work today!**
> rubicant1979 (12:42:28 PM): I have no idea man. It gets crazy here sometimes.
> **ii quinn (12:42:34 PM): hehe
> ii quinn (12:42:36 PM): i can tell**
> rubicant1979 (12:42:36 PM): Gonna try for 6.
> rubicant1979 (12:42:49 PM): Get to your shop by 7:30-8
> **ii quinn (12:42:52 PM): well car looks good, brb, going to install this junk, ur lips**
> rubicant1979 (12:42:59 PM): Cool
> **ii quinn signed off at 1:27:47 PM
> ii quinn signed on at 2:21:18 PM
> ii quinn signed off at 3:11:13 PM
> ii quinn signed on at 4:10:16 PM
> ii quinn (5:29:16 PM): hows work going foolio**
> rubicant1979 (5:54:42 PM): I passed my Microsoft test this morning. I think I am leaving at 6
> rubicant1979 (6:00:53 PM): Yeah, leaving now.
> rubicant1979 (6:01:02 PM): See you at the shop around 7:30 or 8.
> My friend gives me a ride to his shop on Friday 9/26 at 8:30pm.
> Mike’s shop is closed up, and he’s no where to be found.
> My car was also locked inside, so I couldn’t even see what had been done.
> After several phone calls, it turns out he’s at the airport picking somebody up.
> Mike let me know he would be leaving from the airport around 10pm and will be there as soon as he possibly can.
> A few phone calls later, it turns out it hadn’t even been sprayed yet.
> Did I hear correctly?
> I’ve been waiting 1 week, 4 days, and it’s not even sprayed yet?
> GREAT.
> I’m seriously pissed at this point.
> He tells me he’ll be at the shop by midnight and to come check out the car if i’d like.
> I stay up until midnight, drive over…again…he’s not there.
> Speak with him over the phone one more time, he tells me the car will be ready for pick up before 10am.
> I call him on Saturday 9/27 at 9am, my car isn’t ready.
> Apparently, he was just about to clear it and let it sit under the heat lamps to speed up the curing process. “Come by and pick it up later tonight around 7-8pm” is what I’m told.
> My friend gives me a ride over to FINALLY pick up my car from his shop.
> Still thinking, “It took him 12 days to complete this, maybe it’s because he took his time on it to make sure everything was just right.”
> So totally wrong.
> My car was filthy. Not to mention it was completely covered in overspray even though I was told the kit would be painted OFF the car.
> The first thing I noticed, orange peel, and lots of it.
> Second thing, wasn’t I told there would be brackets made for stability?
> The entire kit was drilled onto the car using wood/sheet metal screws and double sided tape(that was already included when I first purchased the kit.
> After the car was rolled out of the shop, he pressure washed it.
> **\*Updated pics 11-29-08 [http://my350z.com/forum/lounge-off-t…ruined-63.html](http://my350z.com/forum/lounge-off-topic/389628-horrible-body-shop-experience-details-inside-350z-ruined-63.html)**
> **\*Updated pics 12-7-08 REPAIRS STARTED [http://my350z.com/forum/lounge-off-t…ruined-64.html](http://my350z.com/forum/lounge-off-topic/389628-horrible-body-shop-experience-details-inside-350z-ruined-64.html)**
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### Author:  [@LKSi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LKSi)
#### Post date: [March 19, 2010, 4:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/a-10-year-old-kid-in-an-art-class-paints-cars-better-than-these-guys/250977/3 "2010-03-19T16:58:46Z")
did you check the date on that thread? haha
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### Author:  [@Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mk4_30R_Ban)
#### Post date: [March 19, 2010, 5:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/a-10-year-old-kid-in-an-art-class-paints-cars-better-than-these-guys/250977/4 "2010-03-19T17:04:50Z")
yeah maaaaad old. i remember when that WAS A NEW THREAD
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### Author:  [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)
#### Post date: [March 19, 2010, 5:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/a-10-year-old-kid-in-an-art-class-paints-cars-better-than-these-guys/250977/5 "2010-03-19T17:09:23Z")
> [@Find this Chevy for me and get a Taco...](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/find-this-chevy-for-me-and-get-a-taco/26832/37):
>
> did you check the date on that thread? haha
> [@Polish Falcons Cruise Night Every Thursday Night](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/polish-falcons-cruise-night-every-thursday-night/13606/53):
>
> yeah maaaaad old. i remember when that WAS A NEW THREAD
New to me and I’m sure more than a few other members that don’t live on the interweb.
Plus hasn’t been posted here yet :tongue
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### Author:  [@Shady](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shady)
#### Post date: [March 19, 2010, 5:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/a-10-year-old-kid-in-an-art-class-paints-cars-better-than-these-guys/250977/6 "2010-03-19T17:14:20Z")
> [@Sickest shift knob evAr](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sickest-shift-knob-evar/28409/28):
>
> New to me and I’m sure more than a few other members that don’t live on the interweb.
>
> Plus hasn’t been posted here yet :tongue
I swear I saw someone post this on here… but damn this is a few years old now isnt it?
Remember seeing it on Z31perf
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### Author:  [@bennyfizzle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bennyfizzle)
#### Post date: [March 19, 2010, 6:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/a-10-year-old-kid-in-an-art-class-paints-cars-better-than-these-guys/250977/7 "2010-03-19T18:03:15Z")
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