# A little gun history **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [December 23, 2007, 9:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/a-little-gun-history/40711 "2007-12-23T21:29:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 52
**Author:** ![ecoshardcore](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ecoshardcore/32/7591_2.png) [@ecoshardcore](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ecoshardcore)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2007, 10:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/a-little-gun-history/40711/52 "2007-12-24T10:28:45Z")
> [@RuBiCaNT](#): > > The email points out numbers but the truth of the situation is, would putting guns in the hands of the oppressed really keep that many of then from being killed. Nazi Germany is a great example. Giving the jews guns would not stop Hitler from putting them in concentration camps, it’s just going to kill more Nazi’s before the inevitable happens. > > ``` > That being said, I am for the 2nd amendment but you can't assume that just because the people have the right to bear arms that bad things aren't going to happen. > > ``` Matt, you are incorrect. Keep reading > [@RuBiCaNT](#): > > Jewish families do not become super soldiers once they have a gun in their hands. Yeah, they would have gotten a few of them but hardly enough to offset the Nazi’s. Do you really think having guns turns them into a well trained army? This isn’t the American revolutionary war where you have guns as a lifestyle as well as terrain (and stupid British war tactics) to be successful. > [@Carnut](#): > > It definately would have been different had the Jews had guns. That is moot though. As the holocaust already happened. > **[Warsaw Ghetto](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warsaw_Ghetto)** > > The Warsaw Ghetto (German: Warschauer Ghetto, officially Jüdischer Wohnbezirk in Warschau, "Jewish Residential District in Warsaw"; Polish: getto warszawskie) was the largest of the Nazi ghettos during World War II and the Holocaust. It was established in November 1940 by the German authorities within the new General Government territory of occupied Poland. At its height, as many as 460,000 Jews were imprisoned there, in an area of 3.4 km2 (1.3 sq mi), with an average of 9.2 persons per room,\[... Exactly, This is what happens when a populace decides to rise up. The German commander had such high soldier losses that he decided to blow up EVERY house systematically rather than send soldiers door to door to clear the area out. Matt, the Jews were able to get very small and limited amounts of weapons from the underground, smuggled in through the sewers. An armed populace cannot forever hold off a trained army, but they can force a war of attrition, as evident here. > [@ILCisDEAD](#): > > The Bill of Rights (1–10) > > The Bill of Rights comprises the first ten amendments to the Constitution. Those amendments were adopted between **1789 and 1791** > > You don’t feel that in 218 years, when this was written times have changed enough to pretty much make this worthless. > > 1789 people took months to get from one side of the US to the other (oh yea, many didn’t know how far that actually was) So by having guns they were able to hunt for food. > > Also, what kind of organized policing did they have? The local militia, which was good citizens protecting. > > And your remark about the people being able to uprise against the government. Power of words over violence > > We have a military, we have police, we have organized neighbor hood watches. Unless you are from texas, what point do you having a gun on you is going to serve? > > Most people that have a gun don’t understand the laws anyway, probably many “defending” themselves will be convicted of murder. > > I Agree that crimes happen that involve weapons, but do you think arming people is going to be the step in the right direction? Following your ill conceived logic, that means the rest of the constitution is also moot. Way to go fuckstick. > [@ILCisDEAD](#): > > Or The Jews were dead in their house holds instead of being put in concentration camps. I choose the later, Suffer and wait for freedom. Honestly, there is no way you can make that decision behind your computer in a safe and secure house. It was a totally different environment. > [@ILCisDEAD](#): > > Its your fucking property. You own a gun, its your responsibility to have it locked up. You make it sound like someone is just going to grab your gun thats sitting on a table or something. You purchase it knowing that its sole purpose is to kill. Don’t you think you should be 100% responsible for every action of that gun. You use it when you want to, when you are done you lock it up so it does not get into the hands of someone else. > > YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR EVERY PIECE OF PROPERTY YOU OWN, ESPECIALLY A FUCKING GUN!!! Very well, I plan on stealing your car and crashing it into a day care. But since the car is your property and you just that > YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR EVERY PIECE OF PROPERTY YOU OWN, ESPECIALLY A FUCKING GUN!!! > that means you have some responsibility for MY actions. Does this make any sense to you? Or has your mind totally turned to jello. Tell you what, Ill make you a deal. You can continue being a thin lipped panty waist liberal fuckstick faggot . Ill follow the constitution and keep my guns, when the shit hits the fan ill join the militia and make history as someone who had a set and was willing to fight for what he believed in, you will be reduced to a couple of thousand insignificant posts on your beloved internet. --- _[View the full topic](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/a-little-gun-history/40711)._