# A little gun history **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [December 23, 2007, 9:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/a-little-gun-history/40711 "2007-12-23T21:29:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 79
**Author:** ![ILCisDEAD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a87d85/32.png) [@ILCisDEAD](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ILCisDEAD)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2007, 12:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/a-little-gun-history/40711/79 "2007-12-24T12:40:30Z")
> [@n20junkie](#): > > You know what ILC. I have walked this earth for 10 straight years, in defense of the pure retardness that you spew onto the world. Your location say it all, and your words prove it. UB, your a snot nosed, know it all, college student that has only lived under your parents, and now a school system. You know about 1 percent of life. While i was tramping over the world, i got to see other countries, that thought they had life by the balls, then one day someone decided to fuck it up. France was beautiful, until germany wanted it, hell, most of europe was destroyed by something called WWI and WWII. Do you honestly think that they saw that comming, had they they would of stopped it. Before the VT incident, we thought it was good to have gun free school zones, but we learned they only keep away legal gun owners (the only ILLEGAL guns are those restricted by local laws or the NFA, a stolen gun is still legal, the act of stealing it was the illegal part, you never hear a stolen car called an “illegal car”). If there had been a student or a teacher in that classroom where over 15 students had died, do you think he would have killed them all. Do you think for a fuckin second that if someone walked into your classroom and started killing people that at that instant you wouldn’t pray for a gun to defend youself. If you mother was being raped, would you just call 911 and wait for the cops to show up, you seem to put alot of faith in a system, that by Supreme Court ruling is not required to keep you safe, they only protect the Public, and an individual is not that at all. You have yet to see the ugly of the world, and have yet to see that criminals will never obey your laws, only good citizens do that. Go ahead and disarm us, have at it. I pray you never have the need to defend yourself after such an law is passed. I know of a church that jsut 2 weeks ago was saved by a woman with a pistol, go figure. Ever wonder why young people are liberal in there though process, and the majority of older people are more conservative, could have a little bit to do with life experiance. omg i can’t deal with this incredibly terribly formed paragraph. Let me respond to everything though. Hopefully I can break the ideas up as you intended and respond accordingly. > [@n20junkie](#): > > You know what ILC. I have walked this earth for 10 straight years, in defense of the pure retardness that you spew onto the world. Your location say it all, and your words prove it. UB, your a snot nosed, know it all, college student that has only lived under your parents, and now a school system. You know about 1 percent of life. Correct I do attend school at UB, I’m 23 When I was 14 I worked with my step father at a metal fabrication plant, where I learned to weld, and do other tasks that were required to modify racks for ford so they could accommodate new parts. When i was 16 I worked as a bus boy/ dishwasher for a restaurant until I was 18 when I went away to Basic Military training. I enlisted in the Air National Guard. Now almost serving 6 years I have done the following. Honor Graduate (top 10%) in BMT Expert marksman in BMT Honor Graduate for Technical training as an air craft mechanic After training and actually doing the work. I’ve been to many places around the US too many to name individually, Guam, Turkey, Norway, Ecuador, Antilles, and probably a few more I’ve been to many places myself. Personal Travel I’ve been to France, Germany, Switzerland, and Italy. I started at the university at buffalo when i was 19 or 20 during which I obtained an IT Job as a student, working my way up to a Supervisor position, which there are 6 of us… in charge of i think the current number is 59 consultants. I really can’t say that I haven’t lived a well fulfilled life, when I’m clearly more educated than you, and probably understand more about the world than you do. Yes I left a lot of details out, specifics because I really don’t feel I need to explain in great detail. Moving on… > [@n20junkie](#): > > While i was tramping over the world, i got to see other countries, that thought they had life by the balls, then one day someone decided to fuck it up. France was beautiful, until germany wanted it, hell, most of europe was destroyed by something called WWI and WWII. France is still beautiful BTW. After World War I there should have been indications of something happening when Germany began rearming and gaining strength. Yes, Germany destroyed a ton of Europe, but did you see 9/11 happening, no. We should have banned all muslims from the flights already, or Eradicated germany after WWI or before. /sarcasm you are viewing everything in retrospect, congratulations everything is much easier to see after it happens. > [@n20junkie](#): > > Before the VT incident, we thought it was good to have gun free school zones, but we learned they only keep away legal gun owners (the only ILLEGAL guns are those restricted by local laws or the NFA, a stolen gun is still legal, the act of stealing it was the illegal part, you never hear a stolen car called an “illegal car”). If there had been a student or a teacher in that classroom where over 15 students had died, do you think he would have killed them all. Do you think for a fuckin second that if someone walked into your classroom and started killing people that at that instant you wouldn’t pray for a gun to defend youself. So lets arm the teachers with weapons and give every student a hand gun. Sure I would have hoped I could have defended myself at VT. The larger problem of this was the signs that were ignored by the Asian person who did the deed. If someone would have caught them, or was educated enough to realize there is a problem this would have been prevented with therapy. Do you think its a gun thats needed in this case to shoot the crazy kid? or therapy to prevent any deaths including the shooter? rhetorical question, question used merely for effect and not expecting an answer. > [@n20junkie](#): > > If you mother was being raped, would you just call 911 and wait for the cops to show up, you seem to put alot of faith in a system, that by Supreme Court ruling is not required to keep you safe, they only protect the Public, and an individual is not that at all. Thats a ridiculous claim, you can’t rape the willing. > [@n20junkie](#): > > You have yet to see the ugly of the world, and have yet to see that criminals will never obey your laws, only good citizens do that. Nope I haven’t seen the ugly of the world, I’ve only been to corrupt countries where you can pay the police off for anything, because the 4 dollars a day they are making is a lot less than 100 bucks for turning their head and not seeing you kill someone. Or the gang members that you can get to kill someone for 150 bucks. Or the times when we’re restricted to go places because of recent activities of people being snatched off the roads, tossed in the back of vans and beaten to death or just severely beaten and left in the middle of the rain forest. Why, for 40 bucks you may have in your wallet. what did I do while I was in those places? I trusted the system and the Intel that I was given, and I’m still here. > [@n20junkie](#): > > Go ahead and disarm us, have at it. I pray you never have the need to defend yourself after such an law is passed. I would rather be optimistic about it and disarm and take full faith in the system, instead of being defiant because the only person I can trust is myself. So Continue to be pessimistic and hold on to your guns forever. Do you really think in 50 years the focus is going to be on Wars or Crime? No, We’ll be more focused on a better life, whether its combating cancer, or a new kind of Super Bacteria (omg the new staph infection?!?!?). Violence and self protection is not the answer. The system fails when people don’t let it succeed. Yes I’m aware of the chance of a flawed system, I feel that the US getting rid of weapons would be able to accommodate for any lack of protection that you have, whether its a better police system for internal problems and increased military for external threats. > [@n20junkie](#): > > I know of a church that jsut 2 weeks ago was saved by a woman with a pistol, go figure. Thats unfortunate that it happened to a church, and great there was a hero. Put it in the news for everyone to embrace. If there was no guns, assuming the story was someone who held up the church with a gun. There wouldn’t have been a problem in the first place. > [@n20junkie](#): > > Ever wonder why young people are liberal in there though process, and the majority of older people are more conservative, could have a little bit to do with life experiance. Story time, my grandmother found out relatively recently that my cousin dropped out of college to pursue love to marry a Puerto Rican in the Air Force. Grandmother’s initial response, “I will never accept that as marriage I cannot believe she married that spic” My grandfather being much worse and much more racist, he also was in World War 2 and an active member of the church. Is this something you want to put your faith into. Complete intolerance? Racism? Ask your grandparents what their thoughts on minorities are. Maybe It doesn’t specifically match the example, but its a good example of how flawed older people can be. Did I answer everything? --- _[View the full topic](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/a-little-gun-history/40711)._