# A mustang even julie would like **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [December 4, 2006, 6:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/a-mustang-even-julie-would-like/21101 "2006-12-04T06:30:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Viper966](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/viper966/32/7268_2.png) [@Viper966](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Viper966)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2006, 6:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/a-mustang-even-julie-would-like/21101/1 "2006-12-04T06:30:56Z")
> **[2007 Ford Mustang FR500GT](https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/2007-ford-mustang-fr500gt-road-test)** > > The King of All Mustangs. We're the first to test Ford's new FR500GT. ---
**Author:** ![Jagermeister](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f19dbf/32.png) [@Jagermeister](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jagermeister)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2006, 6:36am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/a-mustang-even-julie-would-like/21101/2 "2006-12-04T06:36:06Z")
Even at $225,000, I still hate the rear end of that car. Front end is titties. ---
**Author:** ![sureshot007](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sureshot007/32/7345_2.png) [@sureshot007](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sureshot007)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2006, 6:36am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/a-mustang-even-julie-would-like/21101/3 "2006-12-04T06:36:34Z")
1.15 on the skidpad - now that’s impressive for a stang. ---
**Author:** ![fairgentleman\_Z](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fairgentleman_z/32/7263_2.png) [@fairgentleman\_Z](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fairgentleman_Z)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2006, 6:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/a-mustang-even-julie-would-like/21101/4 "2006-12-04T06:37:01Z")
pft… wrong For that price i’d get a V8 Radical, and a CSR Radical, and a new truck to tow them to the track. ---
**Author:** ![Viper966](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/viper966/32/7268_2.png) [@Viper966](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Viper966)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2006, 6:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/a-mustang-even-julie-would-like/21101/5 "2006-12-04T06:39:55Z")
> [@fairgentleman Z](#): > > pft… wrong > > For that price i’d get a V8 Radical, and a CSR Radical, and a new truck to tow them to the track. of course there are other race cars ud build, but for a sanctioned race series and a car and motor that will last the whole season, tahts a pretty good deal ---
**Author:** ![JaysGreenLX](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jaysgreenlx/32/7321_2.png) [@JaysGreenLX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JaysGreenLX)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2006, 6:40am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/a-mustang-even-julie-would-like/21101/6 "2006-12-04T06:40:51Z")
Rice…look at that hood!! kidding. Thats really cool. ---
**Author:** ![fairgentleman\_Z](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fairgentleman_z/32/7263_2.png) [@fairgentleman\_Z](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fairgentleman_Z)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2006, 6:48am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/a-mustang-even-julie-would-like/21101/7 "2006-12-04T06:48:07Z")
> [@Viper966](#): > > of course there are other race cars ud build, but for a sanctioned race series and a car and motor that will last the whole season, tahts a pretty good deal You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. There are plenty of ready **built turn key** race cars for 1/4-1/3 of the cost (brand new) that would hand the POS its ass. And yes there are plenty of sactioned events for them. ---
**Author:** ![Jon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/3bc359/32.png) [@Jon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jon)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2006, 6:48am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/a-mustang-even-julie-would-like/21101/8 "2006-12-04T06:48:19Z")
Lows: Wonky pedals, numb brakes, you can find a faster car for $225,000. No matter what is done to it,i’d never pay 225k for a mustang.Stangs are ok cars but you have to look at what else you can get for that much.😉 ---
**Author:** ![TrueBlue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/trueblue/32/7245_2.png) [@TrueBlue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TrueBlue)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2006, 6:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/a-mustang-even-julie-would-like/21101/9 "2006-12-04T06:51:01Z")
They’re hoping to revive Trans-Am with derivatives of this car. :tup: ---
**Author:** ![fairgentleman\_Z](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fairgentleman_z/32/7263_2.png) [@fairgentleman\_Z](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fairgentleman_Z)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2006, 12:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/a-mustang-even-julie-would-like/21101/10 "2006-12-10T12:16:23Z")
> [@Viper966](#): > > of course there are other race cars ud build, but for a sanctioned race series and a car and motor that will last the whole season, **tahts a pretty good deal** I didn’t want to make the blanket statement that Mustangs suck and leave it at that. So here is a short list, out of many availible options, for **BRAND NEW turn key race cars**. They already have sactioned series (not trying to get in maybe a couple races in 2007). > [@Davis](#): > > It’s too late for a full 2007 series — at present, **only three cars exist** **Ford Mustang FR500GT:** [color=Black]Current Sanctioning Bodies: None [/color] Curb weight: 3300 lb Power (SAE net): 534 bhp @ 7100 rpm Trans: 6 speed sequential 0 to 60: 3.9 skidpad: 1.15 g (laughable) **Price:$225,000** **Pro Formula Mazda (Renisis engine):** [color=Black]Current Sanctioning Bodies: IMSA, SCCA, NASA[/color] Weight …1090 lbs Horsepower …240 Trans: 6 speed sequential 0-60 : 2.9 seconds skidpad: 2.5 g **Price:$78,900** **Standard Formula Mazda (13B):** [color=Black]Current Sanctioning Bodies: IMSA, SCCA, NASA[/color] Weight …1140 lbs Horsepower …180 Trans: 5 speed dog box 0-60 : 4 seconds skidpad: 2 g **Price:$39,900** **ADR3 (Honda K20):** [color=Black]Current Sanctioning Bodies:SCCA, NASA, ACR, NAMEC[/color] Weight…1200 lbs (w/ driver) Horsepower…240 Trans: 6 speed sequential 0-60… (I’d _guess_ slightly slower than PFM) skidpad…2+ g **Price: $75,000** (ASR class w/ K20) **Price: $65,000** (CSR class w/ Hyabusa) I could go on and on, there are 44 companies (as listed in Feb '06 SportsCar magazine) that build complete BRAND NEW cars, but just wanted to give a quick overvewiew. Of the three cars I listed all of them would destroy the Mustang in the corners, and maybe the Standard Formula Mazda would get pulled in the straights, maybe. Now as far as the Mustang engine lasting the whole season, yes, I am sure it can considering it is a conservative Roush. However, if an investor is puting a quater mil into a car I am sure that he is willing to rebuild the engine for 1/10th the cost every few races, that would also mean for the other teams to stay competitve they must be willing to do the same. The engines I listed will have no problem pushing around 1,200 pounds for a few seasons, but still the best of the best are going to be putting in fresh engines sooner than that. Even at my level (IT) there are guys that will put in a fresh engine for the championship races at the end of the year. So who would buy the Mustang given that it is slow? Well, just look at it, it is a huge rolling billboard. If I had a compny and wanted to advertise, the Mustang is the car I would buy/sponsor. As a company why would I want my name on the side of a car that is 18" tall? Another thing is that people can relate to it. It looks like a car they can down to the local dealership and get. Would it be cool to see a new Trans-Am series with the Mustang, Camaro, and Charger/Callenger? Sure. And if I were a pro-driver looking for a ride would I turn it down, hell no. I’d drive a pink car sponosored by Tampx. But I am not a pro driver, and I would rather watch cars that are **directly** related to those on the showroom floor (like the Mazda Cup, Showroom Stock, Touring). And if I am paying for my own ride, as stated before, I’ll buy the ones I listed @ 1/5-1/3 of the cost and be faster in the process. **So, Bryan, do you still think it is a good deal?** **.** ---
**Author:** ![fairgentleman\_Z](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fairgentleman_z/32/7263_2.png) [@fairgentleman\_Z](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fairgentleman_Z)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2006, 5:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/a-mustang-even-julie-would-like/21101/11 "2006-12-10T17:09:45Z")
One final note on sanctioning bodies… > Davis’s first choice would be to have the Champ Car World Series sanction it and run the races on Saturday afternoons in conjunction with Champ Car’s Sunday shows in the U.S., Canada, and Mexico. Looking at the 2007 Champ Car schedule, that would be **13** possible races. Both Mazdas are part of the Star Seires **12** races. On top of that all three are national class SCCA cars. > Each year, approximately **65-70** Nationals are held, broken into the eight divisions, with each division running a minimum of six events. ---
**Author:** ![Smaefer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e79b87/32.png) [@Smaefer](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Smaefer)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2006, 6:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/a-mustang-even-julie-would-like/21101/12 "2006-12-10T18:28:01Z")
> [@Jagermeister](#): > > Even at $225,000, I still hate the rear end of that car. > > Front end is titties. I totally agree with you there. It’s like that hot chick with a real pretty face you see in the grocery store on the other side of the oranges. When you walk around to the other side of the oranges to get a better peep of her whole body. All you see is a huge ass and thunder thighs, with a pretty face attached to the fat birds trunk. ---
**Author:** ![Viper966](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/viper966/32/7268_2.png) [@Viper966](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Viper966)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2006, 5:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/a-mustang-even-julie-would-like/21101/13 "2006-12-11T05:53:44Z")
i meant a stock appearing car, which i like better then full out open wheel/open cockpit racecars as i am more of a race on sunday buy on monday type, but thanx for beating a dead horse ---
**Author:** ![fairgentleman\_Z](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fairgentleman_z/32/7263_2.png) [@fairgentleman\_Z](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fairgentleman_Z)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2006, 6:05am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/a-mustang-even-julie-would-like/21101/14 "2006-12-11T06:05:46Z")
> [@Viper966](#): > > i meant a stock appearing car, which i like better then full out open wheel/open cockpit racecars as i am more of a race on sunday buy on monday type, but thanx for beating a dead horse So why not stock performing car as well? > [@fairgentleman Z](#): > > I would rather watch cars that are **directly** related to those on the showroom floor (like the Mazda Cup, Showroom Stock, Touring). ---
**Author:** ![Rx3](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rx3/32/7194_2.png) [@Rx3](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Rx3)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2006, 1:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/a-mustang-even-julie-would-like/21101/15 "2006-12-11T13:38:16Z")
> [@fairgentleman Z](#): > > pft… wrong > > For that price i’d get a V8 Radical, and a CSR Radical, and a new truck to tow them to the track. +1