# A noob trying to learn more about his car

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**Category:** SON240sx Automotive\
**Created:** [May 9, 2011, 2:33pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/a-noob-trying-to-learn-more-about-his-car/212193 "2011-05-09T14:33:31Z")\
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**Author:** ![Cadence](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Cadence](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cadence)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2011, 2:33pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/a-noob-trying-to-learn-more-about-his-car/212193/1 "2011-05-09T14:33:31Z")

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I know the plug on the far left (rectangle shaped) is for the wiper motor but what’re the other two for?  
[![http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3552/5703718025_cae3413aac.jpg](http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3552/5703718025_cae3413aac.jpg)](http://www.flickr.com/photos/52480808@N02/5703718025/)  
[DSC\_0043](http://www.flickr.com/photos/52480808@N02/5703718025/) by [wilwmak](http://www.flickr.com/people/52480808@N02/), on Flickr

There’s nothing missing here is there?  
[![http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5108/5703726657_7662dba344.jpg](http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5108/5703726657_7662dba344.jpg)](http://www.flickr.com/photos/52480808@N02/5703726657/)  
[DSC\_0045](http://www.flickr.com/photos/52480808@N02/5703726657/) by [wilwmak](http://www.flickr.com/people/52480808@N02/), on Flickr

What’s this plug for ?  
[![http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3065/5704397826_b17abba0d7.jpg](http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3065/5704397826_b17abba0d7.jpg)](http://www.flickr.com/photos/52480808@N02/5704397826/)  
[DSC\_0046](http://www.flickr.com/photos/52480808@N02/5704397826/) by [wilwmak](http://www.flickr.com/people/52480808@N02/), on Flickr

I know I have no hi-beams but just double checking what plug this is ?  
[![http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5148/5703833841_742d82c284.jpg](http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5148/5703833841_742d82c284.jpg)](http://www.flickr.com/photos/52480808@N02/5703833841/)  
[DSC\_0047](http://www.flickr.com/photos/52480808@N02/5703833841/) by [wilwmak](http://www.flickr.com/people/52480808@N02/), on Flickr

This was running from the same line as the one connected to thermostat in front of the rad  
[![http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5148/5703833841_742d82c284.jpg](http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5148/5703833841_742d82c284.jpg)](http://www.flickr.com/photos/52480808@N02/5703833841/)  
[DSC\_0047](http://www.flickr.com/photos/52480808@N02/5703833841/) by [wilwmak](http://www.flickr.com/people/52480808@N02/), on Flickr

Anyone wanna try looking at what these are? I think they’re for connecting to the deck.  
[![http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3172/5704403772_c513b77cff.jpg](http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3172/5704403772_c513b77cff.jpg)](http://www.flickr.com/photos/52480808@N02/5704403772/)  
[DSC\_0053](http://www.flickr.com/photos/52480808@N02/5704403772/) by [wilwmak](http://www.flickr.com/people/52480808@N02/), on Flickr  
[![http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3172/5704403772_c513b77cff.jpg](http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3172/5704403772_c513b77cff.jpg)](http://www.flickr.com/photos/52480808@N02/5704403772/)  
[DSC\_0053](http://www.flickr.com/photos/52480808@N02/5704403772/) by [wilwmak](http://www.flickr.com/people/52480808@N02/), on Flickr  
Red to blue  
[![http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5109/5703841139_5bbc4eaeca.jpg](http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5109/5703841139_5bbc4eaeca.jpg)](http://www.flickr.com/photos/52480808@N02/5703841139/)  
[DSC\_0055](http://www.flickr.com/photos/52480808@N02/5703841139/) by [wilwmak](http://www.flickr.com/people/52480808@N02/), on Flickr  
with a 20A fuse in the middle  
[![http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2268/5703843059_d685529924.jpg](http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2268/5703843059_d685529924.jpg)](http://www.flickr.com/photos/52480808@N02/5703843059/)  
[DSC\_0056](http://www.flickr.com/photos/52480808@N02/5703843059/) by [wilwmak](http://www.flickr.com/people/52480808@N02/), on Flickr

If the other ones were for the deck what’re these ones for?  
[![http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2666/5703844901_bbb5a35e3b.jpg](http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2666/5703844901_bbb5a35e3b.jpg)](http://www.flickr.com/photos/52480808@N02/5703844901/)  
[DSC\_0057](http://www.flickr.com/photos/52480808@N02/5703844901/) by [wilwmak](http://www.flickr.com/people/52480808@N02/), on Flickr

I think the male one is power for a deck?  
[![http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2611/5704412834_95dd17c219.jpg](http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2611/5704412834_95dd17c219.jpg)](http://www.flickr.com/photos/52480808@N02/5704412834/)  
[DSC\_0058](http://www.flickr.com/photos/52480808@N02/5704412834/) by [wilwmak](http://www.flickr.com/people/52480808@N02/), on Flickr  
[![http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5265/5703848001_0c44011c29.jpg](http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5265/5703848001_0c44011c29.jpg)](http://www.flickr.com/photos/52480808@N02/5703848001/)  
[DSC\_0059](http://www.flickr.com/photos/52480808@N02/5703848001/) by [wilwmak](http://www.flickr.com/people/52480808@N02/), on Flickr

No clue.  
[![http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2014/5704417400_5cde461ddb.jpg](http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2014/5704417400_5cde461ddb.jpg)](http://www.flickr.com/photos/52480808@N02/5704417400/)  
[DSC\_0061](http://www.flickr.com/photos/52480808@N02/5704417400/) by [wilwmak](http://www.flickr.com/people/52480808@N02/), on Flickr

From inside the trunk:  
[![http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3211/5704419994_8e0d2f1ab7.jpg](http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3211/5704419994_8e0d2f1ab7.jpg)](http://www.flickr.com/photos/52480808@N02/5704419994/)  
[DSC\_0062](http://www.flickr.com/photos/52480808@N02/5704419994/) by [wilwmak](http://www.flickr.com/people/52480808@N02/), on Flickr  
[![http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2201/5703857347_57128b726d.jpg](http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2201/5703857347_57128b726d.jpg)](http://www.flickr.com/photos/52480808@N02/5703857347/)  
[DSC\_0064](http://www.flickr.com/photos/52480808@N02/5703857347/) by [wilwmak](http://www.flickr.com/people/52480808@N02/), on Flickr  
Anything look wrong here? My trunk doesn’t open from time to time…  
[![http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3325/5703859497_e4887f058b.jpg](http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3325/5703859497_e4887f058b.jpg)](http://www.flickr.com/photos/52480808@N02/5703859497/)  
[DSC\_0065](http://www.flickr.com/photos/52480808@N02/5703859497/) by [wilwmak](http://www.flickr.com/people/52480808@N02/), on Flickr

The deck I’m planning on installing, do I need a another harness?  
[![http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3365/5704441742_1b93b63e3d.jpg](http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3365/5704441742_1b93b63e3d.jpg)](http://www.flickr.com/photos/52480808@N02/5704441742/)  
[DSC\_0073](http://www.flickr.com/photos/52480808@N02/5704441742/) by [wilwmak](http://www.flickr.com/people/52480808@N02/), on Flickr

please don’t flame! just trying to learn.

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**Author:** ![Mr\_Phonso](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a87d85/32.png) [@Mr\_Phonso](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mr_Phonso)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2011, 3:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/a-noob-trying-to-learn-more-about-his-car/212193/2 "2011-05-09T15:05:45Z")

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![http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5108/5703726657_7662dba344.jpg](http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5108/5703726657_7662dba344.jpg)  
turbo is missing

![http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3065/5704397826_b17abba0d7.jpg](http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3065/5704397826_b17abba0d7.jpg)  
Horn

![http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5148/5703833841_742d82c284.jpg](http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5148/5703833841_742d82c284.jpg)  
Turn signal

![http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2611/5704412834_95dd17c219.jpg](http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2611/5704412834_95dd17c219.jpg)  
Antenna input for deck

![http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2014/5704417400_5cde461ddb.jpg](http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2014/5704417400_5cde461ddb.jpg)  
Key lock - leave that alone

![http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2201/5703857347_57128b726d.jpg](http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2201/5703857347_57128b726d.jpg)  
I think antenna output

![http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3325/5703859497_e4887f058b.jpg](http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3325/5703859497_e4887f058b.jpg)  
Looks ok to me

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**Author:** ![pik420](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/858c86/32.png) [@pik420](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/pik420)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2011, 6:24pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/a-noob-trying-to-learn-more-about-his-car/212193/3 "2011-05-09T18:24:01Z")

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Download a fsm it will answer 90 percent of your questions the extra plug in front of the rad is for fogs the deck needs an aftermarket harness as the power supply cable is showing I would assume you have an after market deck already  
As for the no clue photo I’m pretty sure you have an auto to manual swap as that cable is for the auto shifter I do beleive  
Hope that helps

Good luck

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**Author:** ![Ciaran](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ciaran/32/5612_2.png) [@Ciaran](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Ciaran)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2011, 7:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/a-noob-trying-to-learn-more-about-his-car/212193/4 "2011-05-09T19:02:56Z")

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these pics remind me how much i hate wires lol

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**Author:** ![Cadence](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Cadence](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cadence)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2011, 8:24pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/a-noob-trying-to-learn-more-about-his-car/212193/5 "2011-05-09T20:24:48Z")

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> [@Mr. Phonso](#):
>
> ![http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5108/5703726657_7662dba344.jpg](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/1/c/1c64353457f7a7f7c6f3e89a98ed397479fadc48.jpeg)  
> turbo is missing
> 
> ![http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3065/5704397826_b17abba0d7.jpg](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/f/3/f33f4d9a56504ad2301627b79c2c7abc99e07e28.jpeg)  
> Horn  
> **but my horn works.?**
> 
> ![http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5148/5703833841_742d82c284.jpg](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/d/2/d2d54df2170d2aa9be852e0b8356c6c21260153a.jpeg)  
> Turn signal
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> ![http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2611/5704412834_95dd17c219.jpg](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/7/0/70512c7f00c3b8dcf6941097009819481995538f.jpeg)  
> Antenna input for deck  
> **if the male is in the input, whats the female one?**
> 
> ![http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2014/5704417400_5cde461ddb.jpg](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/c/5/c51e0b9f8274ad20a43ec94a4381c9bb3d41c9a2.jpeg)  
> Key lock - leave that alone
> 
> ![http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2201/5703857347_57128b726d.jpg](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/a/2/a22c23175e7b0fcd3325a4e5e6725d635344245e.jpeg)  
> I think antenna output
> 
> ![http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3325/5703859497_e4887f058b.jpg](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/9/7/97c93b660b2cd7f81c23239af65078121fd3f40b.jpeg)  
> Looks ok to me

…^^

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> [@pik420](#):
>
> Download a fsm it will answer 90 percent of your questions the extra plug in front of the rad is for fogs the deck needs an aftermarket harness as the power supply cable is showing I would assume you have an after market deck already  
> As for the no clue photo I’m pretty sure you have an auto to manual swap as that cable is for the auto shifter I do beleive  
> Hope that helps
> 
> Good luck

I have no deck at the moment. if thats the “power supply aftermarket style” i still need an aftermarket harness?  
and yes, it was a auto to manual swap.

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**Author:** ![pik420](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/858c86/32.png) [@pik420](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/pik420)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2011, 8:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/a-noob-trying-to-learn-more-about-his-car/212193/6 "2011-05-09T20:32:56Z")

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Both plugs fit the oem deck based on the rats nest of wires there was an aftermarket deck installed buy a conversion harness and work your way back

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**Author:** ![Gongster](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/gongster/32/5615_2.png) [@Gongster](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Gongster)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2011, 8:33pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/a-noob-trying-to-learn-more-about-his-car/212193/7 "2011-05-09T20:33:45Z")

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delete

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**Author:** ![Mr\_Phonso](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a87d85/32.png) [@Mr\_Phonso](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mr_Phonso)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2011, 8:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/a-noob-trying-to-learn-more-about-his-car/212193/8 "2011-05-09T20:35:45Z")

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![http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2611/5704412834_95dd17c219.jpg](http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2611/5704412834_95dd17c219.jpg)

I’ve never seen that female plug behind my radio before, no clue what it does. But for sure the other one plugs into the deck for antenna.

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**Author:** ![MP\_B240](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mp_b240/32/5697_2.png) [@MP\_B240](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MP_B240)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2011, 8:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/a-noob-trying-to-learn-more-about-his-car/212193/9 "2011-05-09T20:42:18Z")

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Why does he need to leave the key lock alone? I took mine out, don’t need it

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**Author:** ![Mr\_Phonso](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a87d85/32.png) [@Mr\_Phonso](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mr_Phonso)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2011, 8:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/a-noob-trying-to-learn-more-about-his-car/212193/10 "2011-05-09T20:54:37Z")

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That works too.

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**Author:** ![Cadence](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Cadence](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cadence)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2011, 9:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/a-noob-trying-to-learn-more-about-his-car/212193/11 "2011-05-09T21:19:53Z")

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So I need another harness to use my deck? I looked up what they had on wal-mart site not sure which to use…

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**Author:** ![Cadence](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Cadence](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cadence)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2011, 11:04am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/a-noob-trying-to-learn-more-about-his-car/212193/12 "2011-05-11T11:04:04Z")

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I’m good with which leads go to which speaker now! Thanks guys!

but the power I’m a bit confused cause this threw me off:  
[![http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2268/5703843059_d685529924.jpg](http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2268/5703843059_d685529924.jpg)](http://www.flickr.com/photos/52480808@N02/5703843059/)  
[DSC\_0056](http://www.flickr.com/photos/52480808@N02/5703843059/) by [wilwmak](http://www.flickr.com/people/52480808@N02/), on Flickr  
[![http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5109/5703841139_5bbc4eaeca.jpg](http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5109/5703841139_5bbc4eaeca.jpg)](http://www.flickr.com/photos/52480808@N02/5703841139/)  
[DSC\_0055](http://www.flickr.com/photos/52480808@N02/5703841139/) by [wilwmak](http://www.flickr.com/people/52480808@N02/), on Flickr

The .pdf install guide: [http://www.docs.sony.com/release/CDXGT210\_Installation.pdf](http://www.docs.sony.com/release/CDXGT210_Installation.pdf)  
States that the Red wire should be +12V Ignition and that Blue is “Antenna REM” (dunno)

But in the wiring coming from the car, Blue is connected to the Red and along the Red wire there’s a 20A fuse…:S help?

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Also, anyone have ideas on where I can pick up screws for the deck?..didn’t come with any…my local hardware store? Computer store? Fastenal? LOL

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**Author:** ![MP\_B240](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mp_b240/32/5697_2.png) [@MP\_B240](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MP_B240)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2011, 11:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/a-noob-trying-to-learn-more-about-his-car/212193/13 "2011-05-11T11:30:23Z")

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Go here…  
[http://ka-t.org/fsm.php](http://ka-t.org/fsm.php)  
Download the service manual for your car, and take a look through it. Literally has all the information you will ever need.  
For your radio, i had a similar situation. But on the back of my deck it showed a chart of what every color wire was for, so that made it easy. Do you have anything like that? I also had to get a separate harness for my deck because the plugs on the back of aftermarket deck don’t line up with the deck harness of your car whatsoever.

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**Author:** ![Cadence](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Cadence](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cadence)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2011, 6:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/a-noob-trying-to-learn-more-about-his-car/212193/14 "2011-05-11T18:23:04Z")

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I have the FSM I got it off Zilvia but It looks like there was at one point, an aftermarket deck hooked up to my car. cause the speakers are all aftermarket.  
After looking through the FSM and the deck manufacturer install guide. I still don’t understand why there’s a 20A fuse spliced in to the +12V Ignition wire.

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**Author:** ![Mr\_Phonso](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a87d85/32.png) [@Mr\_Phonso](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mr_Phonso)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2011, 6:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/a-noob-trying-to-learn-more-about-his-car/212193/15 "2011-05-11T18:52:18Z")

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I don’t see the need for a fuse for the deck 12v anyway, just wire it straight. Now, if you were going to have an amp powered directly from the battery would be a good idea to have a inline fuse, but that’s another story.

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**Author:** ![Cadence](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Cadence](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cadence)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2011, 2:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/a-noob-trying-to-learn-more-about-his-car/212193/16 "2011-05-12T14:44:44Z")

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^ added you on msn. So I can just take the 20A fuse out?

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**Author:** ![Cadence](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Cadence](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cadence)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2011, 3:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/a-noob-trying-to-learn-more-about-his-car/212193/17 "2011-05-13T15:59:32Z")

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Should i just try taking the fuse out?..

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**Author:** ![Maverick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/258eb7/32.png) [@Maverick](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Maverick)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2011, 6:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/a-noob-trying-to-learn-more-about-his-car/212193/18 "2011-05-13T18:13:39Z")

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> [@Mr. Phonso](#):
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> ![http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2611/5704412834_95dd17c219.jpg](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/7/0/70512c7f00c3b8dcf6941097009819481995538f.jpeg)
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> I’ve never seen that female plug behind my radio before, no clue what it does. But for sure the other one plugs into the deck for antenna.

That female plug is where you keep your penis

Edit:

That blue antenna plug is what tells the power antenna to turn on and will also tell any amplifiers you hook up to turn on with the head unit. The fuse would only be used if the previous owner was worried that his deck might draw too much power especially if it was driving those aftermarket speakers without an amp. Its useless, take it out or keep it in doesn’t really matter.

I do a shit ton of wiring all day erday so pm me your msn and you can just hit me up if you need more help.

+1 for the FSM and the manual to the deck cause that shit sorts everything out and will keep you from trial and erroring your ass off.

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**Author:** ![Cadence](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Cadence](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cadence)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2011, 6:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/a-noob-trying-to-learn-more-about-his-car/212193/19 "2011-05-13T18:15:29Z")

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_insert sarcastic laughter_ nice try with the bland penis joke =P

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**Author:** ![Maverick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/258eb7/32.png) [@Maverick](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Maverick)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2011, 6:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/a-noob-trying-to-learn-more-about-his-car/212193/20 "2011-05-13T18:20:42Z")

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oh and throw some dirt on those hands cause you look like a girly man

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