# A sad day...

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/a-sad-day/251030>\
**Category:** Shift518 Off Topic\
**Created:** [March 22, 2010, 6:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/a-sad-day/251030 "2010-03-22T06:39:49Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![JClark](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jclark/32/6309_2.png) [@JClark](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JClark)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2010, 2:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/a-sad-day/251030/61 "2010-03-22T14:27:32Z")

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When this country was founded, there had been no other nation in history with such a distinct separation of church and state. The founding fathers were largely religious men and used sound morality to guide them, but the US was far more influenced by philosophers of the time than the Bible. The US never has been a nation of God or Christianity.

Ilya, you’re just an idiot.

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**Author:** ![Murrdog9000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/murrdog9000/32/6391_2.png) [@Murrdog9000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Murrdog9000)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2010, 2:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/a-sad-day/251030/62 "2010-03-22T14:30:56Z")

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I pledge allegiance, to the flag, of the united states of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under god, indivisible, for liberty and justice for all.

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**Author:** ![Cossey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Cossey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cossey)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2010, 2:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/a-sad-day/251030/63 "2010-03-22T14:40:14Z")

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> [@Off to Asia i go again](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/off-to-asia-i-go-again/29071/55):
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> I pledge allegiance, to the flag, of the united states of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under god, indivisible, for liberty and justice for all.

Not in the Constitution.  
Also, under God is a vague term as God is interpreted in many different ways to many different people, thus it is open for interpretation.

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**Author:** ![99FRC](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/99frc/32/6335_2.png) [@99FRC](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/99FRC)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2010, 2:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/a-sad-day/251030/64 "2010-03-22T14:41:11Z")

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> [@WTB: plain black license plate frame(s)](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wtb-plain-black-license-plate-frame-s/30255/9):
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> Ilya, you need to get laid.

Fixed

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**Author:** ![JClark](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jclark/32/6309_2.png) [@JClark](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JClark)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2010, 2:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/a-sad-day/251030/65 "2010-03-22T14:41:27Z")

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“Under God” was added in 1954. In fact, the pledge was first written long after the founding fathers were dead.

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**Author:** ![Murrdog9000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/murrdog9000/32/6391_2.png) [@Murrdog9000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Murrdog9000)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2010, 2:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/a-sad-day/251030/66 "2010-03-22T14:43:52Z")

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> [@List Reasons why Rubicant is: An a-hole/a Penis/Gay](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/list-reasons-why-rubicant-is-an-a-hole-a-penis-gay/30264/12):
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> Not in the Constitution.  
> Also, under God is a vague term as God is interpreted in many different ways to many different people, thus it is open for interpretation.

unless you don’t believe in god

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**Author:** ![Cossey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Cossey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cossey)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2010, 3:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/a-sad-day/251030/67 "2010-03-22T15:44:03Z")

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> [@Corvette kit cars?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/corvette-kit-cars/30258/10):
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> unless you don’t believe in god

It doesn’t mean God, like there is only one God. It assumes that all people are of **A** religion. Not all people are Christian. It means under ‘whoever your god(s) may be.’

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**Author:** ![Murrdog9000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/murrdog9000/32/6391_2.png) [@Murrdog9000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Murrdog9000)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2010, 4:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/a-sad-day/251030/68 "2010-03-22T16:40:06Z")

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> [@Corvette kit cars?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/corvette-kit-cars/30258/12):
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> It doesn’t mean God, like there is only one God. It assumes that all people are of **A** religion. Not all people are Christian. It means under ‘whoever your god(s) may be.’

God in the pledge is singular and once again… what if you don’t believe in any god(s)

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**Author:** ![JClark](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jclark/32/6309_2.png) [@JClark](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JClark)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2010, 4:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/a-sad-day/251030/69 "2010-03-22T16:44:15Z")

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“Under God” has no place in the pledge.

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**Author:** ![freakLS7](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/freakls7/32/6298_2.png) [@freakLS7](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/freakLS7)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2010, 4:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/a-sad-day/251030/70 "2010-03-22T16:47:48Z")

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> [@Who parks at the back?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/who-parks-at-the-back/30276/9):
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> “Under God” has no place in the pledge.

it does have a place… its just after “one nation” and before “indivisible”!!!

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**Author:** ![Ilya](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ilya/32/6404_2.png) [@Ilya](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Ilya)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2010, 4:53pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/a-sad-day/251030/71 "2010-03-22T16:53:26Z")

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> [@freakLS7"](#):
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> it does have a place… its just after “one nation” and before “indivisible”!!!

:rofl

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**Author:** ![Hang\_Your\_Cross](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/hang_your_cross/32/6381_2.png) [@Hang\_Your\_Cross](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Hang_Your_Cross)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2010, 6:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/a-sad-day/251030/72 "2010-03-22T18:38:27Z")

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> [@Off to Asia i go again](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/off-to-asia-i-go-again/29071/55):
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> I pledge allegiance, to the flag, of the united states of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under god, indivisible, for liberty and justice for all.

God was added during the 1950’s as a way to go against the athiest communists.

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**Author:** ![88slowmarro](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/88slowmarro/32/6339_2.png) [@88slowmarro](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/88slowmarro)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2010, 6:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/a-sad-day/251030/73 "2010-03-22T18:39:20Z")

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**Author:** ![Cossey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Cossey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cossey)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2010, 6:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/a-sad-day/251030/74 "2010-03-22T18:45:43Z")

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> [@youtube problems?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/youtube-problems/30281/2):
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> God in the pledge is singular and once again… what if you don’t believe in any god(s)

It doesn’t matter if it’s singular. It’s how it was meant to be. I didn’t write the fucking pledge.

If you don’t believe in any gods, too bad. As Hang Your Cross said, it was added because of the atheist communists.

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**Author:** ![88slowmarro](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/88slowmarro/32/6339_2.png) [@88slowmarro](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/88slowmarro)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2010, 6:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/a-sad-day/251030/75 "2010-03-22T18:47:11Z")

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as most on here know im far from religous ,butttt our country was founded on the religous aspects ,now that bein said it needs to be kept the same

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**Author:** ![Jammer](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jammer/32/6349_2.png) [@Jammer](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jammer)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2010, 7:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/a-sad-day/251030/76 "2010-03-22T19:25:27Z")

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disgusting day in American History… next they erase our true history.

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**Author:** ![JClark](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jclark/32/6309_2.png) [@JClark](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JClark)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2010, 7:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/a-sad-day/251030/77 "2010-03-22T19:26:53Z")

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How was it founded on religious aspects? Morality and freedom arent specifically religious, they’re basic social values.

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**Author:** ![Boxersix](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boxersix/32/6327_2.png) [@Boxersix](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Boxersix)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2010, 7:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/a-sad-day/251030/78 "2010-03-22T19:28:36Z")

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**Author:** ![Hang\_Your\_Cross](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/hang_your_cross/32/6381_2.png) [@Hang\_Your\_Cross](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Hang_Your_Cross)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2010, 7:49pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/a-sad-day/251030/79 "2010-03-22T19:49:11Z")

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> [@For those of you who havent ridden with me...](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/for-those-of-you-who-havent-ridden-with-me/30068/51):
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> How was it founded on religious aspects? Morality and freedom arent specifically religious, they’re basic social values.

he is possibly talking about the Puritans that settled Boston/MA area?

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**Author:** ![JClark](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jclark/32/6309_2.png) [@JClark](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JClark)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2010, 7:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/a-sad-day/251030/80 "2010-03-22T19:54:37Z")

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> [@How to steal the soul of an FD - SOLD](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-to-steal-the-soul-of-an-fd-sold/24871/163):
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> he is possibly talking about the Puritans that settled Boston/MA area?

Ah, gotcha. I meant the literal founding of the United States which was what…150+ yrs later?

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