# Advan's SA3R
**URL:** https://forums.speedlife.net/t/advans-sa3r/113061
**Category:** SON240sx Automotive
**Created:** [February 11, 2008, 9:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/advans-sa3r/113061 "2008-02-11T09:34:19Z")
**Posts on this page:** 11
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### Author:  [@GTS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/GTS)
#### Post date: [February 11, 2008, 9:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/advans-sa3r/113061/1 "2008-02-11T09:34:19Z")
5x114.3 - I don’t know the thread size of stock S14.
Will stock lug nuts fit?
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### Author:  [@Sky14](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Sky14)
#### Post date: [February 11, 2008, 9:44am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/advans-sa3r/113061/2 "2008-02-11T09:44:33Z")
its the same.
off set?
might need extended studs
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### Author:  [@GTS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/GTS)
#### Post date: [February 11, 2008, 9:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/advans-sa3r/113061/3 "2008-02-11T09:51:53Z")
I’m asking about the nuts that hold the wheel to the hub.
In my experience, about 95% of all aftermarket wheels require spline/smaller nuts. I just wanted to verify if I will need another set for these wheels.
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### Author:  [@sil8t](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sil8t)
#### Post date: [February 11, 2008, 10:07am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/advans-sa3r/113061/4 "2008-02-11T10:07:10Z")
yeah i think your going aftermarket lugs for that one. if your looking to extend them get the late 80’s wheel stud from arp it will change the thread to 1.5 by 12 but the knurl is the same
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### Author:  [@Osad](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Osad)
#### Post date: [February 11, 2008, 10:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/advans-sa3r/113061/5 "2008-02-11T10:33:01Z")
Most aftermarket lugs are 12x1.5 thread pitch, which means you will either need to grab some new studs or somehow find a smaller thread pitch set of lug nuts.
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### Author:  [@krgoodwin](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/krgoodwin)
#### Post date: [February 11, 2008, 10:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/advans-sa3r/113061/6 "2008-02-11T10:49:40Z")
[http://img318.imageshack.us/img318/6190/10053155st.jpg](http://img318.imageshack.us/img318/6190/10053155st.jpg)
Looks like these? Stock nuts should fit.
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### Author:  [@GTS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/GTS)
#### Post date: [February 11, 2008, 11:07am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/advans-sa3r/113061/7 "2008-02-11T11:07:29Z")
Yes, those are the wheels.
From that picture, it looks okay. Thank you for the picture reference.
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### Author:  [@Osad](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Osad)
#### Post date: [February 11, 2008, 12:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/advans-sa3r/113061/8 "2008-02-11T12:20:43Z")
When you try and tighten the lug nuts, w/e you are using will not have enough room to squeeze in and turn, I can pretty much garuntee that.
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### Author:  [@Pants](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Pants)
#### Post date: [February 11, 2008, 12:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/advans-sa3r/113061/9 "2008-02-11T12:28:42Z")
just get the tuner lugs. they are like 3$ each
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### Author:  [@jstn](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jstn)
#### Post date: [February 11, 2008, 12:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/advans-sa3r/113061/10 "2008-02-11T12:41:07Z")
i don’t know…
my stock lug nuts didn’t fit on my sa3r’s so i had to get slimmer ones
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### Author:  [@sr20](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sr20)
#### Post date: [February 11, 2008, 2:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/advans-sa3r/113061/11 "2008-02-11T14:56:26Z")
those looks stock, but just to be sure get tuner lugnuts… or if you know someone that works on a lathe, you can ask them to skim the outside diameter of the nut socket to fit in the wheels when tightening them.