# AK-47 Legality?!?

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**Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\
**Created:** [February 2, 2009, 8:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ak-47-legality/62364 "2009-02-02T20:04:31Z")\
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**Author:** ![buffalove](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/buffalove/32/7460_2.png) [@buffalove](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/buffalove)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2009, 8:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ak-47-legality/62364/1 "2009-02-02T20:04:31Z")

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How legal is an AK-47 in Erie County (West Seneca) and Tompkins County (Ithaca).

It is a semi-automatic model w/ 30 round mags.  
I heard that big capacity mags are illegal (max 10 bullets?).

If someone wanted to buy one from someone that is selling it very cheap.  
Is it a problem in NYS?

From what i have read it’s legal as long as it’s semi-auto and small capacity magazine, i don’t care for the high cap mags.

Google could not provide a definite answer and i know there are some gun fanatics on here.

Thanks.

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**Author:** ![sobo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sobo/32/5267_2.png) [@sobo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sobo)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2009, 8:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ak-47-legality/62364/2 "2009-02-02T20:08:07Z")

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My buddy owns one… fresh out of highschool…

Romanian made WASR-10 (Romanian Ak47 export)

2 30 round mags.

It’s not illegal to have 30 round mags, because now the firearms ban(limiting the mag size to 10) is up and on top of that there were plenty of mags made before the ban that were granfathered in.

Go to buffalo gun center… its like $500 for a WASR-10 with 2 30 round mags…

Your good to go.

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**Author:** ![Nikuk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nikuk/32/7254_2.png) [@Nikuk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nikuk)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2009, 8:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ak-47-legality/62364/3 "2009-02-02T20:08:32Z")

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There are not varying degrees of legality.

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**Post date:** [February 2, 2009, 8:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ak-47-legality/62364/4 "2009-02-02T20:17:29Z")

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Can’t wait for the gunshow in Clarence coming up.  
Who’s goin?

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**Author:** ![mechanicalmadness](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mechanicalmadness/32/5022_2.png) [@mechanicalmadness](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/mechanicalmadness)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2009, 8:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ak-47-legality/62364/5 "2009-02-02T20:22:16Z")

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When is the gun show?

FYI. Shell out some extra bucks and Buy a Bulgarian made AK. Anyone worth their Commie star know they make the best AK’s in the world. Romanian AK’s are garbage. Not to say they wont last you but let me just put it this way. You can make the receiver in your garage with a press and spot welder.

i do believe there was some loophole that allowed 30 round mags, though i can not remember details.

I think SOBo hit it right on though.

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**Post date:** [February 2, 2009, 8:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ak-47-legality/62364/6 "2009-02-02T20:27:03Z")

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Feb 14th and 15th

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**Post date:** [February 2, 2009, 8:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ak-47-legality/62364/7 "2009-02-02T20:31:59Z")

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Where in Clarence is it?

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**Post date:** [February 2, 2009, 8:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ak-47-legality/62364/8 "2009-02-02T20:36:18Z")

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> [@mechanicalmadness](#):
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> Where in Clarence is it?

WNY event center  
**11163 Main St. (US Rte. 5) Clarence, N.Y**

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**Post date:** [February 2, 2009, 8:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ak-47-legality/62364/9 "2009-02-02T20:39:48Z")

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You should be fine as long as you’re not looking for a fully auto weapon.

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**Post date:** [February 2, 2009, 9:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ak-47-legality/62364/10 "2009-02-02T21:02:08Z")

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as long as they are pre-ban mags youre fine. You can buy them in magazines, gun stores, gun shows etc. All the ban did was make it illegal to manufacture them. if they were made before the ban, you’re fine.

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**Post date:** [February 2, 2009, 9:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ak-47-legality/62364/11 "2009-02-02T21:16:10Z")

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> [@TradersBASE](#):
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> Feb 14th and 15th

this says this weekend?

[http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/GunShows/ShowDetails.aspx?sid=612](http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/GunShows/ShowDetails.aspx?sid=612)

EDIT: i dont think this is correct

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**Post date:** [February 2, 2009, 9:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ak-47-legality/62364/12 "2009-02-02T21:19:06Z")

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[www.nyfirearms.com](http://www.nyfirearms.com) will have your answers.

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**Post date:** [February 3, 2009, 12:12am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ak-47-legality/62364/13 "2009-02-03T00:12:46Z")

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i won one at a gun raffle haven’t shot it yet, its been sitting in the closet for like a year, its a Russian on. its very nice.

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**Post date:** [February 3, 2009, 2:48am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ak-47-legality/62364/14 "2009-02-03T02:48:31Z")

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> [@skatanic28](#):
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> this says this weekend?
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> [http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/GunShows/ShowDetails.aspx?sid=612](http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/GunShows/ShowDetails.aspx?sid=612)

Hrmmm. Wonder which it is. Have to call and confirm I guess.

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**Post date:** [February 3, 2009, 3:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ak-47-legality/62364/15 "2009-02-03T03:30:33Z")

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the gun show there is really nice. they always have TONS of shit.

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**Post date:** [February 3, 2009, 4:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ak-47-legality/62364/16 "2009-02-03T04:29:06Z")

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Place in PA had a sale on them for $299 back in sept.

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**Post date:** [February 3, 2009, 5:40am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ak-47-legality/62364/17 "2009-02-03T05:40:54Z")

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> [@Nikuk](#):
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> There are not varying degrees of legality.

Care to elaborate? Legality is pretty black and white.

According to NYS law, being semi-automatic and accepting a detachable magazine, it falls under the AWB only if it was made after sept 94’.

If it was made after that date, then it cannot have a bayonett lug, flash supressor, colapsable stock…

If it was made before that date, then you can have it in pretty much any configuration as long as it is semi-automatic.

Magazines fall under the same law, if they are made before sept 94’ you can have them, and use them in a pre-ban or post-ban weapon. If they are made after sept 94’ they are illegal in nys completely.

Nikuk may be speaking that some dumb ass cops that don’t know the laws will see it and harass you, or take it so that they can verify, this can be true. But it helps if you print off the law and keep it with you, that way they can’t say that they don’t know.

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**Post date:** [February 3, 2009, 5:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ak-47-legality/62364/18 "2009-02-03T05:45:52Z")

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does anyone have the correct info on the “show” ??

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**Post date:** [February 3, 2009, 6:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ak-47-legality/62364/19 "2009-02-03T06:19:32Z")

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> [@justa4door](#):
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> does anyone have the correct info on the “show” ??

+1

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**Post date:** [February 3, 2009, 6:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ak-47-legality/62364/20 "2009-02-03T06:55:37Z")

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