# All Stock Honda \<3 Rust Build: K20A2

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/all-stock-honda-3-rust-build-k20a2/154870>\
**Category:** Builds\
**Created:** [May 11, 2010, 8:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/all-stock-honda-3-rust-build-k20a2/154870 "2010-05-11T20:27:39Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![05OrangeSS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/0/eada6e/32.png) [@05OrangeSS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/05OrangeSS)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2010, 6:06am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/all-stock-honda-3-rust-build-k20a2/154870/21 "2010-05-13T06:06:45Z")

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Fair enough. Good luck with the build. The purple is actually pretty cool.

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**Author:** ![Jam](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jam/32/7235_2.png) [@Jam](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jam)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2010, 8:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/all-stock-honda-3-rust-build-k20a2/154870/22 "2010-05-13T08:28:32Z")

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a k20 in a 2200 lb car will rip really hard, this will be a srs sleeper.

:tup: on keeping it rusty too i \<3 sleeper hondas 🙂

PS- f having power steering, cruise, ac ect… in my b18 eg the only thing i have running off of the crank pulley is an alternator. thats all i need y0!

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**Author:** ![Saxon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@Saxon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Saxon)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2010, 8:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/all-stock-honda-3-rust-build-k20a2/154870/23 "2010-05-13T08:47:41Z")

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all those accessories will kill power

what exhaust do you plan on running? these motors need to breathe to make good power

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**Author:** ![newman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/newman/32/7569_2.png) [@newman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/newman)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2010, 8:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/all-stock-honda-3-rust-build-k20a2/154870/24 "2010-05-13T08:57:23Z")

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There is no way that car will be fast enough to justify the sleeper look…

200whp and 2200lbs? That sounds about as fun as an elise in a straight line (not fun)… at least an elise can corner…

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**Author:** ![Saxon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@Saxon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Saxon)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2010, 9:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/all-stock-honda-3-rust-build-k20a2/154870/25 "2010-05-13T09:10:53Z")

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200whp (will prob be more like 220 with a tune) in that coupe is good for high 12’s… not exactly fast but its fast for a stock looking civic thats NA

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**Author:** ![newman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/newman/32/7569_2.png) [@newman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/newman)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2010, 10:18am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/all-stock-honda-3-rust-build-k20a2/154870/26 "2010-05-13T10:18:01Z")

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12’s + sleeper = Does not compute

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**Author:** ![ultradriver10000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ultradriver10000/32/7397_2.png) [@ultradriver10000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ultradriver10000)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2010, 10:21am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/all-stock-honda-3-rust-build-k20a2/154870/27 "2010-05-13T10:21:22Z")

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> [@Jam](#):
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> a k20 in a 2200 lb car will rip really hard, this will be a srs sleeper.
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> :tup: on keeping it rusty too i \<3 sleeper hondas 🙂
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> PS- f having power steering, cruise, ac ect… in my b18 eg the only thing i have running off of the crank pulley is an alternator. thats all i need y0!

Electric water pump?

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**Author:** ![94excivic](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/94excivic/32/5263_2.png) [@94excivic](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/94excivic)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2010, 10:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/all-stock-honda-3-rust-build-k20a2/154870/28 "2010-05-13T10:26:01Z")

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i like it.its purple!!!11!!!

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**Author:** ![ultradriver10000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ultradriver10000/32/7397_2.png) [@ultradriver10000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ultradriver10000)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2010, 10:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/all-stock-honda-3-rust-build-k20a2/154870/29 "2010-05-13T10:26:28Z")

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> [@newman](#):
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> 12’s + sleeper = Does not compute

12’s isn’t a bad sleeper DD, what would your DD run 16’s? 😛

I think a 13’s DD is pretty rad. Though I’d agree that a sleeper should be silly fast.

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**Author:** ![SilverGT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8dc957/32.png) [@SilverGT](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SilverGT)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2010, 10:56am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/all-stock-honda-3-rust-build-k20a2/154870/30 "2010-05-13T10:56:00Z")

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> [@Jam](#):
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> a k20 in a 2200 lb car will rip really hard, this will be a srs sleeper.
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> :tup: on keeping it rusty too i \<3 sleeper hondas 🙂
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> PS- f having power steering, cruise, ac ect… in my b18 eg the only thing i have running off of the crank pulley is an alternator. thats all i need y0!

It adds character that what i have to say.

> [@Saxon](#):
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> all those accessories will kill power
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> what exhaust do you plan on running? these motors need to breathe to make good power

DC Sport Header

> [@newman](#):
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> There is no way that car will be fast enough to justify the sleeper look…
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> 200whp and 2200lbs? That sounds about as fun as an elise in a straight line (not fun)… at least an elise can corner…

how much did your elise cost? 🙂 lol we cant all afford a elise now you know. but when i can i;ll be in your tax bracket

> [@Saxon](#):
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> 200whp (will prob be more like 220 with a tune) in that coupe is good for high 12’s… not exactly fast but its fast for a stock looking civic thats NA

its definietly fast enough for me.

> [@ultradriver10000](#):
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> Electric water pump?

lol

> [@94excivic](#):
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> i like it.its purple!!!11!!!

Purple is in!

> [@ultradriver10000](#):
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> 12’s isn’t a bad sleeper DD, what would your DD run 16’s? 😛
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> I think a 13’s DD is pretty rad. Though I’d agree that a sleeper should be silly fast.

i also agree but its a sleeper to me 🙂

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**Author:** ![newman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/newman/32/7569_2.png) [@newman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/newman)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2010, 10:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/all-stock-honda-3-rust-build-k20a2/154870/31 "2010-05-13T10:58:09Z")

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> [@SilverGT](#):
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> how much did your elise cost? 🙂 lol we cant all afford a elise now you know. but when i can i;ll be in your tax bracket

But my point was that the elise wasn’t a straight line car… wouldn’t a boosted b series got you a lot more for a lot less?

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**Author:** ![SilverGT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8dc957/32.png) [@SilverGT](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SilverGT)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2010, 11:04am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/all-stock-honda-3-rust-build-k20a2/154870/32 "2010-05-13T11:04:08Z")

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> [@newman](#):
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> But my point was that the elise wasn’t a straight line car… wouldn’t a boosted b series got you a lot more for a lot less?

Yes probably but how many people in wny have a B-series swap? how many people have a k-series swap. I would say there are alote more b-series swap…so i opt to be alittle different.

Just the same reason why you brought the Elise, isnt there another car out that was less then the elise that could of satisify your expectation? probably yes. but you picked to be different!

Thumbs up to being different! lol

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**Author:** ![newman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/newman/32/7569_2.png) [@newman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/newman)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2010, 11:06am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/all-stock-honda-3-rust-build-k20a2/154870/33 "2010-05-13T11:06:28Z")

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True. Is this car going to be gutted?

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**Author:** ![SilverGT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8dc957/32.png) [@SilverGT](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SilverGT)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2010, 11:16am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/all-stock-honda-3-rust-build-k20a2/154870/34 "2010-05-13T11:16:42Z")

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> [@newman](#):
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> True. Is this car going to be gutted?

Nope all stock when you look inside no need to gutt. its my daily driver with just a little powwa. im not tracking/racing it.

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**Author:** ![Jam](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jam/32/7235_2.png) [@Jam](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jam)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2010, 12:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/all-stock-honda-3-rust-build-k20a2/154870/35 "2010-05-13T12:06:14Z")

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> [@ultradriver10000](#):
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> Electric water pump?

sorry, i should have specified - water pump is ran off of the timing belt like every other b/d block

also, a boosted b has a lot more potential but for someone looking for stock reliability and still a very fun DD, paying the premium for a k-swap with bolt ons is where its at

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**Author:** ![SilverGT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8dc957/32.png) [@SilverGT](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SilverGT)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2010, 1:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/all-stock-honda-3-rust-build-k20a2/154870/36 "2010-05-13T13:25:41Z")

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^^what he said hahah stock reliablity/powa/fuel economy also

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**Author:** ![LXIFLYBY](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/lxiflyby/32/7399_2.png) [@LXIFLYBY](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LXIFLYBY)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2010, 2:33pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/all-stock-honda-3-rust-build-k20a2/154870/37 "2010-05-13T14:33:00Z")

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even a turboed d16 with vitara pistons will go as fast if not faster for roughly half the cost of this (im not really sure what this is going to end up costing but i know its alot) i like it that you went different but for the money i probably would have stayed d series or maybe swapped to a B series, or even LS/Vtec

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**Author:** ![SilverGT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8dc957/32.png) [@SilverGT](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SilverGT)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2010, 2:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/all-stock-honda-3-rust-build-k20a2/154870/38 "2010-05-13T14:45:11Z")

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^^^how reliable is that?

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**Author:** ![ieatpaint](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ieatpaint/32/7311_2.png) [@ieatpaint](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ieatpaint)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2010, 2:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/all-stock-honda-3-rust-build-k20a2/154870/39 "2010-05-13T14:54:05Z")

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Ugh, shitty comparison, a d16 turbo build to get 220hp reliably isn’t going to be as cheap as this particular k20a2. Maaaaybe a turbo b18b1 would be a better $ comparison but it’s not going to be as reliable as this k20. Let’s not forget, Dave bought a totalled rsx for a fantastic price and is parting out the whole car except what he needs. I’d much rather pop my hood and see a k20 vs some pos rusty log manifold on a SOHC.

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**Author:** ![SilverGT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8dc957/32.png) [@SilverGT](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SilverGT)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2010, 3:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/all-stock-honda-3-rust-build-k20a2/154870/40 "2010-05-13T15:00:48Z")

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^^I robbed the guy of the rsx and spanked his gf to with the deal.

And does that D or B series have a 6spd transmission? Hahahah nope

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