# All you market investors out there. Let's play a game. UPDATED 4/23/11

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**Created:** [September 18, 2008, 7:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/all-you-market-investors-out-there-lets-play-a-game-updated-4-23-11/239037 "2008-09-18T19:46:23Z")\
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**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2011, 9:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/all-you-market-investors-out-there-lets-play-a-game-updated-4-23-11/239037/81 "2011-05-08T21:18:38Z")

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Not doing well at all.

Selling AMD.

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**Author:** ![Wayne64SS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/wayne64ss/32/6365_2.png) [@Wayne64SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Wayne64SS)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2011, 9:24pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/all-you-market-investors-out-there-lets-play-a-game-updated-4-23-11/239037/82 "2011-05-08T21:24:52Z")

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Lol Woody talked me into signing up and i read like one article before my ADD took over and i went back to CL hunting. lol

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**Author:** ![Cossey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Cossey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cossey)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2011, 9:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/all-you-market-investors-out-there-lets-play-a-game-updated-4-23-11/239037/83 "2011-05-08T21:38:07Z")

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> [@Do you like the new classified section?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/do-you-like-the-new-classified-section/42028/25):
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> Not doing well at all.
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> Selling AMD.

LOL, AMD is the least of your worries. Get rid of the Silver Wheaton and move onto something that costs much less (\<$10) so you can attempt to build back. OR, invest that money into AMD so you not only lower your average cost (meaning it’ll take less to break even or gain), but you’ll also increase your position with them.

I have all of this play money invested in SWHC. I’ve sold it at one point where it was up a few cents, then re-invested all again when it dropped below. The stock’s near it’s 52-week low which is good for buying, and although their 52-week high is only in the $4/share range, having over 2800 shares will help make those gains.

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**Author:** ![ninety1two40](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ninety1two40/32/6332_2.png) [@ninety1two40](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ninety1two40)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2011, 5:18am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/all-you-market-investors-out-there-lets-play-a-game-updated-4-23-11/239037/84 "2011-05-09T05:18:04Z")

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I’m just going to hang tight on what I have now, long term should yield something good.

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**Author:** ![KrazyKid](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/krazykid/32/6371_2.png) [@KrazyKid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KrazyKid)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2011, 8:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/all-you-market-investors-out-there-lets-play-a-game-updated-4-23-11/239037/85 "2011-05-09T08:37:14Z")

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I short sold Osama stock, made bank after he went out of business! lol

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**Author:** ![Cossey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Cossey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cossey)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2011, 11:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/all-you-market-investors-out-there-lets-play-a-game-updated-4-23-11/239037/86 "2011-05-17T11:32:52Z")

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UPDATE as of 5/17 @ 2:25pm:

1. Cossey w/ +3.25%
2. Shady w/ +0%
3. Wayne w/ +0%
4. bwe45 w/ -1.33%
5. DayTrader w/ -1.57%
6. LKSi w/ -2.08%
7. Jeff K w/ -4.72%
8. steveklopman w/ -4.96%
9. DFDrocks247365 w/ -5.16%
10. NickAlero w/ -8.62%
11. ReDevil w/ -11%
12. Vlad w/ -14.44%
13. KrazyKid w/ -21.59%
14. winning w/ -29.53%

I should also note that the biggest losers (rank 11-14) have a combined transaction total of 49, 31 of which are Mike (KrazyKid) LOL. The top 10 have a combined transaction total of 33.

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**Author:** ![bwe45](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/77aa72/32.png) [@bwe45](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bwe45)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2011, 11:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/all-you-market-investors-out-there-lets-play-a-game-updated-4-23-11/239037/87 "2011-05-17T11:39:46Z")

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> [@Who's "da man" for tint?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/whos-da-man-for-tint/42276/8):
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> UPDATE as of 5/17 @ 2:25pm:
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> 1. Cossey w/ +3.25%
> 2. Shady w/ +0%
> 3. Wayne w/ +0%
> 4. bwe45 w/ -1.33%
> 5. DayTrader w/ -1.57%
> 6. LKSi w/ -2.08%
> 7. Jeff K w/ -4.72%
> 8. steveklopman w/ -4.96%
> 9. DFDrocks247365 w/ -5.16%
> 10. NickAlero w/ -8.62%
> 11. ReDevil w/ -11%
> 12. Vlad w/ -14.44%
> 13. KrazyKid w/ -21.59%
> 14. winning w/ -29.53%
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> I should also note that the biggest losers (rank 11-14) have a combined transaction total of 49, 31 of which are Mike (KrazyKid) LOL. The top 10 have a combined transaction total of 33.

oh damn. im in 4th

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**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2011, 11:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/all-you-market-investors-out-there-lets-play-a-game-updated-4-23-11/239037/88 "2011-05-17T11:50:05Z")

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I sold AMD and moved up!

KrazyKid tries too hard. Wasnt he number two at a certain point in time? :rofl

Cossey doing work.

Shady and Wayne being number 2 and 3 are proving my theory that sometimes it’s better to not play at all.

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**Author:** ![ReDevil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/redevil/32/6385_2.png) [@ReDevil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ReDevil)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2011, 12:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/all-you-market-investors-out-there-lets-play-a-game-updated-4-23-11/239037/89 "2011-05-17T12:26:27Z")

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I think my best was 8 or 9. TZOO is destroying my returns.

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**Author:** ![KrazyKid](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/krazykid/32/6371_2.png) [@KrazyKid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KrazyKid)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2011, 11:09am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/all-you-market-investors-out-there-lets-play-a-game-updated-4-23-11/239037/90 "2011-05-20T11:09:50Z")

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> [@Who's "da man" for tint?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/whos-da-man-for-tint/42276/8):
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> UPDATE as of 5/17 @ 2:25pm:
> 
> 1. Cossey w/ +3.25%
> 2. Shady w/ +0%
> 3. Wayne w/ +0%
> 4. bwe45 w/ -1.33%
> 5. DayTrader w/ -1.57%
> 6. LKSi w/ -2.08%
> 7. Jeff K w/ -4.72%
> 8. steveklopman w/ -4.96%
> 9. DFDrocks247365 w/ -5.16%
> 10. NickAlero w/ -8.62%
> 11. ReDevil w/ -11%
> 12. Vlad w/ -14.44%
> 13. KrazyKid w/ -21.59%
> 14. winning w/ -29.53%
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> I should also note that the biggest losers (rank 11-14) have a combined transaction total of 49, 31 of which are Mike (KrazyKid) LOL. The top 10 have a combined transaction total of 33.

LOL i chuckle every time I see 33 trades. lol I spent more on transaction fees than you made + sofar by 3 fold! :lol

> [@Who's "da man" for tint?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/whos-da-man-for-tint/42276/11):
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> I sold AMD and moved up!
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> KrazyKid tries too hard. Wasnt he number two at a certain point in time? :rofl
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> Cossey doing work.
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> Shady and Wayne being number 2 and 3 are proving my theory that sometimes it’s better to not play at all.

Yeah I just like messing around… I havent done this stuff in 10 years! I got a game plan now. See “day trader” lol

thats my new guy.

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**Author:** ![KrazyKid](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/krazykid/32/6371_2.png) [@KrazyKid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KrazyKid)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2011, 8:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/all-you-market-investors-out-there-lets-play-a-game-updated-4-23-11/239037/91 "2011-05-23T08:10:25Z")

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Profiting form others misfortune… DayTrader likes Sony loosing money!

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**Author:** ![ReDevil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/redevil/32/6385_2.png) [@ReDevil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ReDevil)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2011, 8:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/all-you-market-investors-out-there-lets-play-a-game-updated-4-23-11/239037/92 "2011-05-23T08:28:21Z")

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Haha, yeah bought Sony day one.

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**Author:** ![KrazyKid](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/krazykid/32/6371_2.png) [@KrazyKid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KrazyKid)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2011, 8:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/all-you-market-investors-out-there-lets-play-a-game-updated-4-23-11/239037/93 "2011-05-23T08:32:17Z")

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> [@What is fast?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-is-fast/42407/41):
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> Haha, yeah bought Sony day one.

yeah but you bought it the wrong way! You lost $120 and I made $450! lol

short sale FTW

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**Author:** ![ReDevil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/redevil/32/6385_2.png) [@ReDevil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ReDevil)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2011, 8:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/all-you-market-investors-out-there-lets-play-a-game-updated-4-23-11/239037/94 "2011-05-23T08:34:44Z")

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Whatever lol I just bought some more. That TZOO one is still killing me. Heres my tip then, look into Hasbro, they make Transformers… who has a new movie coming out in less than a month, and new toys just hit shelves. Just sayin lol

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**Author:** ![KrazyKid](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/krazykid/32/6371_2.png) [@KrazyKid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KrazyKid)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2011, 9:13am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/all-you-market-investors-out-there-lets-play-a-game-updated-4-23-11/239037/95 "2011-05-23T09:13:48Z")

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> [@Anon declares war on Scientology](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anon-declares-war-on-scientology/42402/17):
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> Whatever lol I just bought some more. That TZOO one is still killing me. Heres my tip then, look into Hasbro, they make Transformers… who has a new movie coming out in less than a month, and new toys just hit shelves. Just sayin lol

Sony is tanking for the time being and you bought more long? :facepalm

Good move on the toy co though.

Dont take this the wrong way but do you understand the idea behind a short sell when stock drops? If not I can explain it, and you can mess around playing the other side of the stock market game.

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**Author:** ![ReDevil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/redevil/32/6385_2.png) [@ReDevil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ReDevil)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2011, 9:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/all-you-market-investors-out-there-lets-play-a-game-updated-4-23-11/239037/96 "2011-05-23T09:19:03Z")

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Actually no I dont. Didnt read all the stuff, just basically randomly bought stuff I thought would do well long term.

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**Author:** ![KrazyKid](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/krazykid/32/6371_2.png) [@KrazyKid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KrazyKid)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2011, 10:04am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/all-you-market-investors-out-there-lets-play-a-game-updated-4-23-11/239037/97 "2011-05-23T10:04:16Z")

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cool well here is a mini KK rant. Disclaimer, I am a noobie with this stuff too. But you will get the idea when i am done here.

When you think a stock will drop you can make money on that drop by short selling them. You find the stock and ask your broker to short sell them. The broker sells off X# of share (what ever you want) and “profits” what ever that money would be. As time passes the stock drops. When you had enough you “buy to cover” how ever many shares you initially short sold from the broker at a lower price (since the value dropped). The difference between the initial sell at the higher price and the “buy to cover” at the lower price you keep.

Example:

Stock XYZ is about to post up horrid earnings for Quarter 3. Their stock is currently @ $10.00 a share.

You short sell 100 shares. The broker either sells off share they have in stock or can borrow them from another broker. That short sell yields $1000.

a week goes by and the company release to the public a loss of profits, and the stock drops to $5 a share.

You feel they are just about to hit bottom and they fixed some things in the company and might be on the rebound for quarter 4 profits. Now you decide to “buy to cover” the 100 shares you short sold a week ago. That buy costs you $500. (100 shares @ $5 current value).

Initially the broker made $1000 for you from the short sale. And just spent $500 to complete the transaction. leaving you +$500 from where you started last week.

Additionally. now you own 100 shares at the new lower price. You could sell them off and be free and clear. or you can hold them long and hope they rise back up, making more money.

Also little side facts, you can buy stock short against your equity… so you dont really need the cash up front. so if you have $5000 to play with cash, you can actually short sell more than $5000 worth of stock. IF the stock were to rise instead of go down, your FUCKED and owe the broker more money than you have. That’s a gamble.

ALSO ALSO, short selling is rather frowned upon and somewhat illegal. ( dont know the full logistics on this but here is the idea) Usually when a stock is MASS SOLD OFF at once it can drive the price down because potential buyers get all worried thinking that a company is going to take a hit and people are selling now to not loose money. So the price usually sinks. So if a lot of brokers were to short sell a shit load of the same stock, the price would drop (yeaaaa for them) and bad for the company.

thats about it. there is way more involved in there detail wise but you get the idea I think.

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**Author:** ![IOM\_G8\_GT\_888](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/5f8ce5/32.png) [@IOM\_G8\_GT\_888](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/IOM_G8_GT_888)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2011, 11:07am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/all-you-market-investors-out-there-lets-play-a-game-updated-4-23-11/239037/98 "2011-05-23T11:07:51Z")

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Too late to join up?

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**Author:** ![KrazyKid](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/krazykid/32/6371_2.png) [@KrazyKid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KrazyKid)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2011, 7:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/all-you-market-investors-out-there-lets-play-a-game-updated-4-23-11/239037/99 "2011-05-24T07:26:44Z")

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WTF.

Sony posts 3+ billion UNDER projected profits  
they get hacked AGAIN this morning

yet the stock JUMPS up a mile in value??? WTF

I went from +350$ to -$168 in less than 12 hours!

fuuuuck stock markets! lol

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**Author:** ![KrazyKid](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/krazykid/32/6371_2.png) [@KrazyKid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KrazyKid)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2011, 7:27am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/all-you-market-investors-out-there-lets-play-a-game-updated-4-23-11/239037/100 "2011-05-24T07:27:04Z")

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no you can jump in at any time into the game man.

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