# Allegany state park? Drill baby drill! **URL:** \ **Category:** PolitiSUCK\ **Created:** [April 17, 2010, 8:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/allegany-state-park-drill-baby-drill/153566 "2010-04-17T20:56:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![glitch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/0ea827/32.png) [@glitch](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/glitch)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2010, 8:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/allegany-state-park-drill-baby-drill/153566/1 "2010-04-17T20:56:57Z")
**Protesters target proposal to drill for oil, gas in Allegany state Park** About 50 protesters on Friday afternoon targeted an Amherst-based company looking to drill in Allegany State Park. The company has proposed drilling for oil and gas in portions of the 2,800 acres in the park for which it owns mineral rights. “We want you to give the mineral rights back to the state to be protected,” Matt Candeias, one of the protest leaders, said during the demonstration. “Allegany is a state of biodiversity that is unmatched at other lands. To destroy it would be a crime against the world.” Candeias pointed to the company’s activities drilling in Allegany National Forest in Pennsylvania. The state of Pennsylvania’s Department of Environmental Protection halted the company’s drilling last year because of environmental violations. […more](http://www.buffalonews.com/2010/04/16/1021754/protesters-picket-for-allegany.html) :bsflag: ---
**Author:** ![Coldaccord](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/coldaccord/32/7272_2.png) [@Coldaccord](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Coldaccord)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2010, 9:12am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/allegany-state-park-drill-baby-drill/153566/2 "2010-04-18T09:12:18Z")
you’re saying people who want to drill is bs or the protestors ---
**Author:** ![glitch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/0ea827/32.png) [@glitch](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/glitch)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2010, 9:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/allegany-state-park-drill-baby-drill/153566/3 "2010-04-18T09:19:09Z")
> [@Coldaccord](#): > > you’re saying people who want to drill is bs or the protestors Them wanting to drill in state parks is bullshit. ---
**Author:** ![smokeyV](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/smokeyv/32/5873_2.png) [@smokeyV](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/smokeyV)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2010, 10:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/allegany-state-park-drill-baby-drill/153566/4 "2010-04-18T10:32:27Z")
i have many fond memories of allegany as a kid, that would be f’d if they starting drilling in such a great place. ---
**Author:** ![Coldaccord](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/coldaccord/32/7272_2.png) [@Coldaccord](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Coldaccord)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2010, 12:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/allegany-state-park-drill-baby-drill/153566/5 "2010-04-18T12:25:35Z")
> [@glitch](#): > > Them wanting to drill in state parks is bullshit. i concur ---
**Author:** ![ultradriver10000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ultradriver10000/32/7397_2.png) [@ultradriver10000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ultradriver10000)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2010, 12:50pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/allegany-state-park-drill-baby-drill/153566/6 "2010-04-18T12:50:54Z")
I’d drill there… but then again that’s my yoab… 🙂 It doesn’t really damage that much… ---
**Author:** ![smokeyV](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/smokeyv/32/5873_2.png) [@smokeyV](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/smokeyV)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2010, 2:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/allegany-state-park-drill-baby-drill/153566/7 "2010-04-18T14:26:05Z")
> [@ultradriver10000](#): > > It doesn’t really damage that much… except the whole beauty of a “natural” habitat and the surrounding animals homes which would be destroyed. ---
**Author:** ![ultradriver10000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ultradriver10000/32/7397_2.png) [@ultradriver10000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ultradriver10000)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2010, 2:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/allegany-state-park-drill-baby-drill/153566/8 "2010-04-18T14:41:56Z")
> [@smokeyV](#): > > except the whole beauty of a “natural” habitat and the surrounding animals homes which would be destroyed. A finished well takes up much less then say 1/2 acre… considering the park is 65K arches or so I doubt this would destroy much of anything… Consider they put in 10 wells… these wells take up 5 arches…let give 10x the amount for fun…so 50 arches of affected wildlife…that is .0769% Now these 10 wells could cover all the parks expenses for the next what 500 years? I would be 100% for them if the money went to the park only and ensured that it would stay open and free to the public for x years. Below is the picture of a finished well fyi. ---
**Author:** ![PureXTC](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/purextc/32/5223_2.png) [@PureXTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/PureXTC)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2010, 3:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/allegany-state-park-drill-baby-drill/153566/9 "2010-04-18T15:26:59Z")
> [@ultradriver10000](#): > > A finished well takes up much less then say 1/2 acre… considering the park is 65K arches or so I doubt this would destroy much of anything… > > Consider they put in 10 wells… these wells take up 5 arches…let give 10x the amount for fun…so 50 arches of affected wildlife…that is .0769% > > Now these 10 wells could cover all the parks expenses for the next what 500 years? I would be 100% for them if the money went to the park only and ensured that it would stay open and free to the public for x years. Meh, this is New York State. That money would go directly to help balance the budget. Wasn’t Alleghany slated to be closed to curve spending? If drilling helps it to stay open, then there is nothing to lose I guess. ---
**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2010, 3:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/allegany-state-park-drill-baby-drill/153566/10 "2010-04-18T15:35:34Z")
Um, a private company owns the mineral rights. They want to drill for their own profit, not to help NYS. ---
**Author:** ![PureXTC](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/purextc/32/5223_2.png) [@PureXTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/PureXTC)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2010, 6:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/allegany-state-park-drill-baby-drill/153566/11 "2010-04-18T18:07:43Z")
Well then that sucks ---
**Author:** ![smokeyV](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/smokeyv/32/5873_2.png) [@smokeyV](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/smokeyV)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2010, 6:50pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/allegany-state-park-drill-baby-drill/153566/12 "2010-04-18T18:50:48Z")
that money is not going to the park or park expenses. if the company really cared about the park, they wouldnt be drilling there. i sure as hell am not going to camp in an area infested with shit like the picture you just posted. 1/2 an acre… x 10 = 5 acre’s of wildlife home DESTROYED. thats alot, and ANY amount is too much imo. whats the point of a state park at all if its going to be wrapped up by a privatized oil industry? it just wont be the same… ---
**Author:** ![ultradriver10000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ultradriver10000/32/7397_2.png) [@ultradriver10000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ultradriver10000)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2010, 7:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/allegany-state-park-drill-baby-drill/153566/13 "2010-04-18T19:05:52Z")
> [@Joe](#): > > Um, a private company owns the mineral rights. They want to drill for their own profit, not to help NYS. If you own mineral rights but don’t own the property you have to get permission from the owner, this usually involves paying the owner either a lump sum of money or yearly dividends. ---
**Author:** ![klug](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/klug/32/5222_2.png) [@klug](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/klug)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2010, 7:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/allegany-state-park-drill-baby-drill/153566/14 "2010-04-18T19:12:06Z")
> [@smokeyV](#): > > that money is not going to the park or park expenses. if the company really cared about the park, they wouldnt be drilling there. > > i sure as hell am not going to camp in an area infested with shit like the picture you just posted. > > 1/2 an acre… x 10 = 5 acre’s of wildlife home DESTROYED. thats alot, and ANY amount is too much imo. > > whats the point of a state park at all if its going to be wrapped up by a privatized oil industry? it just wont be the same… Is your nismo electric? ---
**Author:** ![PureXTC](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/purextc/32/5223_2.png) [@PureXTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/PureXTC)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2010, 7:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/allegany-state-park-drill-baby-drill/153566/15 "2010-04-18T19:20:36Z")
You can claim that only 50 acres will be destroyed, but a person can see for miles and miles. And just seeing one of these wells will ruin the outdoor experience. ---
**Author:** ![ultradriver10000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ultradriver10000/32/7397_2.png) [@ultradriver10000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ultradriver10000)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2010, 7:24pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/allegany-state-park-drill-baby-drill/153566/16 "2010-04-18T19:24:14Z")
> [@PureXTC](#): > > You can claim that only 50 acres will be destroyed, but a person can see for miles and miles. And just seeing one of these wells will ruin the outdoor experience. I’m saying that I’d gladly loose 50 acres out of 65,000 to ensure that the park stays open forever and is free for all to visit. If those conditions aren’t agreed to I’d say hell no. NYS sucks so they will fugg it all up anyways. ---
**Author:** ![smokeyV](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/smokeyv/32/5873_2.png) [@smokeyV](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/smokeyV)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2010, 12:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/allegany-state-park-drill-baby-drill/153566/17 "2010-04-19T00:38:18Z")
> [@klug](#): > > Is your nismo electric? lol. no, but i keep it where its supposed to be, in suburbia. you dont see me doing donuts and knocking down state park trees, do you? ---
**Author:** ![newman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/newman/32/7569_2.png) [@newman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/newman)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2010, 6:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/allegany-state-park-drill-baby-drill/153566/18 "2010-04-19T06:47:40Z")
I’ve been to a few land rigs before, and after the drilling operation is complete, it’s really not THAT bad… There isn’t too much damage done… tho usually a lot of trees need to be cleared for access roads… and the loading in of equipment can really trash the roads… I would much rather see drilling elsewhere, tho. ---
**Author:** ![glitch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/0ea827/32.png) [@glitch](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/glitch)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2010, 8:04am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/allegany-state-park-drill-baby-drill/153566/19 "2010-04-19T08:04:25Z")
> [@ultradriver10000](#): > > I’d drill there… but then again that’s my yoab… It’s okay, we understand. Can’t bit the teet thet feeds. 🙂 There are also a ton more factors than simply how much space they take up. ---
**Author:** ![JEG](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jeg/32/7246_2.png) [@JEG](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JEG)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2010, 2:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/allegany-state-park-drill-baby-drill/153566/20 "2010-04-19T14:02:06Z")
yeah…I am 100% against anybody drilling in any national/state park. That land has been set aside so that developement of that land DOES NOT happen. [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/allegany-state-park-drill-baby-drill/153566.md?page=2)