# Aluminum Grand National motor??? **URL:** \ **Category:** PittSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [January 5, 2006, 11:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/aluminum-grand-national-motor/179284 "2006-01-05T11:23:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![imported\_gearhead](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/imported_gearhead/32/5957_2.png) [@imported\_gearhead](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/imported_gearhead)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2006, 11:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/aluminum-grand-national-motor/179284/1 "2006-01-05T11:23:16Z")
what is this I hear about a new TA performance block or something? Anyone know the info on any aluminum 3.8’s? 👼 ---
**Author:** ![OLDS\_ROCKETMAN](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/olds_rocketman/32/5942_2.png) [@OLDS\_ROCKETMAN](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/OLDS_ROCKETMAN)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2006, 11:27am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/aluminum-grand-national-motor/179284/2 "2006-01-05T11:27:14Z")
> [@gearhead](#): > > what is this I hear about a new TA performance block or something? Anyone know the info on any aluminum 3.8’s? 👼 its been out for a few years. i hear its pretty expensive to build it. my buddy has one but has yet to do anything with it. I think the block alone is like 5,000 but i could be wrong. ---
**Author:** ![German\_with\_a\_Bowtie](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/german_with_a_bowtie/32/5967_2.png) [@German\_with\_a\_Bowtie](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/German_with_a_Bowtie)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2006, 11:41am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/aluminum-grand-national-motor/179284/3 "2006-01-05T11:41:55Z")
[http://www.taperformance.com/july\_2002.htm](http://www.taperformance.com/july_2002.htm) ---
**Author:** ![imported\_gearhead](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/imported_gearhead/32/5957_2.png) [@imported\_gearhead](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/imported_gearhead)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2006, 2:49pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/aluminum-grand-national-motor/179284/4 "2006-01-05T14:49:25Z")
ok, this is what i heard about. my one buddy initially said there was an article in feb. issue of HotRod about a complete aluminum motor making 700some hp on pump gas. I thought he said you coudl buy the whole motor or something. …is this the only aluminum motor they make? ---
**Author:** ![German\_with\_a\_Bowtie](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/german_with_a_bowtie/32/5967_2.png) [@German\_with\_a\_Bowtie](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/German_with_a_Bowtie)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2006, 3:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/aluminum-grand-national-motor/179284/5 "2006-01-05T15:01:03Z")
> [@gearhead](#): > > …is this the only aluminum motor they make? Here’s one in a T Type going 9.85 It’s still being fine tuned: [http://arizonagn.net/Media/Nick9.wmv](http://arizonagn.net/Media/Nick9.wmv) These are the guys if you want a TA motor: > **[arizonagn.com | Your source for all things Buick turbo V6 powered!](http://arizonagn.com/)** Not sure what you’re looking for, but Champion is going to have a new cast iron block in Feb/March (I’m thinking about one) They have great heads too… [http://www.championgn1.com/gn1/products.html](http://www.championgn1.com/gn1/products.html) ---
**Author:** ![GNocide](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/gnocide/32/5947_2.png) [@GNocide](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/GNocide)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2006, 5:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/aluminum-grand-national-motor/179284/6 "2006-01-05T17:40:12Z")
champion = the win ---
**Author:** ![imported\_gearhead](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/imported_gearhead/32/5957_2.png) [@imported\_gearhead](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/imported_gearhead)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2006, 5:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/aluminum-grand-national-motor/179284/7 "2006-01-05T17:42:11Z")
Do you have any idea on the pricing of the aluminum motors? I really like the idea of an all aluminum motor, but im sure the pricing is going to hult that progress really quick. Thanks for the links man. ---
**Author:** ![GNocide](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/gnocide/32/5947_2.png) [@GNocide](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/GNocide)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2006, 5:50pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/aluminum-grand-national-motor/179284/8 "2006-01-05T17:50:55Z")
$3500 bare block no crank 6 bolt mains ---
**Author:** ![imported\_gearhead](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/imported_gearhead/32/5957_2.png) [@imported\_gearhead](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/imported_gearhead)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2006, 6:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/aluminum-grand-national-motor/179284/9 "2006-01-06T06:17:44Z")
sheesh …too rich for my blood ---
**Author:** ![fmfkid250](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fmfkid250/32/5973_2.png) [@fmfkid250](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fmfkid250)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2006, 7:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/aluminum-grand-national-motor/179284/10 "2006-01-06T07:10:20Z")
> [@gearhead](#): > > sheesh …too rich for my blood you better stick to D series motors!! ---
**Author:** ![German\_with\_a\_Bowtie](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/german_with_a_bowtie/32/5967_2.png) [@German\_with\_a\_Bowtie](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/German_with_a_Bowtie)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2006, 7:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/aluminum-grand-national-motor/179284/11 "2006-01-06T07:32:35Z")
> [@gearhead](#): > > sheesh …too rich for my blood Don’t rule out the stock cast iron GN motor (referred to as the “109” block) 550 to 650 flywheel horsepower for $3K to $6K with great reliability. There are a few 109 block GN’s in the nines, somewhat reliable There are lots of 109 block GN’s in the 10’s…most on pump gas with alcohol inj, very reliable ---
**Author:** ![1\_BAD\_6](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/1/57b2e6/32.png) [@1\_BAD\_6](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/1_BAD_6)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2006, 8:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/aluminum-grand-national-motor/179284/12 "2006-01-06T08:10:09Z")
I have a friend in New York with the T/A motor.9.7x still tuning he would like to go 9.3x. ---
**Author:** ![MONTE\_SS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8797f3/32.png) [@MONTE\_SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MONTE_SS)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2006, 10:07am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/aluminum-grand-national-motor/179284/13 "2006-01-06T10:07:24Z")
Didint they claim getting 1500hp out of the aluim. blocks? ---
**Author:** ![imported\_gearhead](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/imported_gearhead/32/5957_2.png) [@imported\_gearhead](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/imported_gearhead)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2006, 1:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/aluminum-grand-national-motor/179284/14 "2006-01-06T13:59:20Z")
> [@montekass](#): > > Didint they claim getting 1500hp out of the aluim. blocks? I heard 2-3k hp ---
**Author:** ![imported\_gearhead](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/imported_gearhead/32/5957_2.png) [@imported\_gearhead](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/imported_gearhead)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2006, 2:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/aluminum-grand-national-motor/179284/15 "2006-01-06T14:00:45Z")
> [@GeneralG](#): > > Don’t rule out the stock cast iron GN motor (referred to as the “109” block) > > 550 to 650 flywheel horsepower for $3K to $6K with great reliability. > > There are a few 109 block GN’s in the nines, somewhat reliable > > There are lots of 109 block GN’s in the 10’s…most on pump gas with alcohol inj, very reliable are the 109 motors easy to come by? Id like to get something complete if i could. If i had to build it, I would… well maybe after I scatter it the first time 👼 ---
**Author:** ![1\_BAD\_6](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/1/57b2e6/32.png) [@1\_BAD\_6](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/1_BAD_6)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2006, 2:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/aluminum-grand-national-motor/179284/16 "2006-01-06T14:14:15Z")
> [@gearhead](#): > > are the 109 motors easy to come by? Id like to get something complete if i could. If i had to build it, I would… well maybe after I scatter it the first time 👼 Yes you can get a 109 block and or complete motor. ---
**Author:** ![imported\_gearhead](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/imported_gearhead/32/5957_2.png) [@imported\_gearhead](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/imported_gearhead)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2006, 2:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/aluminum-grand-national-motor/179284/17 "2006-01-06T14:14:15Z")
what is different about this?: [http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Grand-National-T-Type-Turbo-Motor-Engine-NO-RESERVE\_W0QQitemZ8026651205QQcategoryZ33615QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem](http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Grand-National-T-Type-Turbo-Motor-Engine-NO-RESERVE_W0QQitemZ8026651205QQcategoryZ33615QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem) is 87 the only “good” year to get? ---
**Author:** ![YellowZ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/edb3f5/32.png) [@YellowZ](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/YellowZ)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2006, 2:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/aluminum-grand-national-motor/179284/18 "2006-01-06T14:21:56Z")
Thinking about putting this in the S2000? ---
**Author:** ![Pewter](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pewter/32/5936_2.png) [@Pewter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Pewter)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2006, 4:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/aluminum-grand-national-motor/179284/19 "2006-01-06T16:02:48Z")
> [@gearhead](#): > > what is different about this?: > > [http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Grand-National-T-Type-Turbo-Motor-Engine-NO-RESERVE\_W0QQitemZ8026651205QQcategoryZ33615QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem](http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Grand-National-T-Type-Turbo-Motor-Engine-NO-RESERVE_W0QQitemZ8026651205QQcategoryZ33615QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem) > > is 87 the only “good” year to get? 86-87 ---
**Author:** ![81Boo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/8/ac8455/32.png) [@81Boo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/81Boo)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2006, 4:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/aluminum-grand-national-motor/179284/20 "2006-01-06T16:06:10Z")
> [@PewterSS](#): > > 86-87 those were intercooled. the others were “hot air” motors [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/aluminum-grand-national-motor/179284.md?page=2)