# Am i getting screwed by the dealer? **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [December 7, 2007, 7:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/am-i-getting-screwed-by-the-dealer/39904 "2007-12-07T07:26:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 26
**Author:** ![HYBOOST](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/hyboost/32/5088_2.png) [@HYBOOST](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/HYBOOST)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2007, 8:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/am-i-getting-screwed-by-the-dealer/39904/26 "2007-12-07T08:38:33Z")
[quote=“MikeRi24,post:13,topic:39904"”] so what would people advise i do/say to tell them they are wrong, fix the real problem? [/quote] Is this happening when the torque converter is locked? A common problem with those is the converter “slips” giving one hell of a chatter. Try this, drive till you can make the chatter happen, then, _ **lightly** touch the brake_ _pedal_ _ **without** changing the throttle position_, see if the problem goes away. If it does, thats your problem. You need a Torque Converter. By lightly touching the brake and not changing the throttle at all, you are unlocking the TCC. If its still there, it could be the tires, I have had that happen too on my Chevy truck. I bought 4 new tires, & the dealer wouldnt fix my 4wd problem (stayed in 4x4 after shifting out) he said the new tires were causing problem. I went back home & installed my stock winter tires & rims, problem still there. The amount of slip (as noted on Newmans thread) can cause tons of problems, not sure why it happens only under load. But make sure its not the TCC & go from there. --- _[View the full topic](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/am-i-getting-screwed-by-the-dealer/39904)._