# AMD's 1991 Audi 200 Project

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/amds-1991-audi-200-project/246911>\
**Category:** Builds\
**Created:** [September 18, 2009, 5:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/amds-1991-audi-200-project/246911 "2009-09-18T05:30:25Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mk4_30r_ban/32/6347_2.png) [@Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mk4_30R_Ban)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2009, 1:36am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/amds-1991-audi-200-project/246911/21 "2009-09-19T01:36:26Z")

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> [@18 year old girl wrecks 800hp Corvette!](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/18-year-old-girl-wrecks-800hp-corvette/23189/20):
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> and build FWD. .

not gonna happen, and your DR chip idea… no way. the major point of this car is its OBD-nothing so he CAN build another MSnS system and tune his own car again.

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**Author:** ![n\_cole](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/n_cole/32/6382_2.png) [@n\_cole](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/n_cole)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2009, 9:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/amds-1991-audi-200-project/246911/22 "2009-09-21T09:45:54Z")

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Checked this out on Saturday, I’m a fan.  
Can’t wait to see the finished product.

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**Author:** ![plaf713](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/439d5e/32.png) [@plaf713](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/plaf713)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2009, 11:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/amds-1991-audi-200-project/246911/23 "2009-09-21T11:28:43Z")

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nice car, especially for the price, cant wait to see it smoke my ass

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**Author:** ![cazwrx187](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cazwrx187/32/6388_2.png) [@cazwrx187](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cazwrx187)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2009, 11:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/amds-1991-audi-200-project/246911/24 "2009-09-21T11:45:35Z")

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Wow. That engine has a shitload of potential.

Good luck with the car man!

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**Author:** ![psi2high](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/psi2high/32/6320_2.png) [@psi2high](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/psi2high)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2009, 11:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/amds-1991-audi-200-project/246911/25 "2009-09-21T11:47:32Z")

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Shits getting s4 brakes as you read this

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**Author:** ![n\_cole](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/n_cole/32/6382_2.png) [@n\_cole](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/n_cole)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2009, 11:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/amds-1991-audi-200-project/246911/26 "2009-09-21T11:55:38Z")

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Did you two get the speaker to work right that day?

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**Author:** ![psi2high](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/psi2high/32/6320_2.png) [@psi2high](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/psi2high)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2009, 12:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/amds-1991-audi-200-project/246911/27 "2009-09-21T12:07:29Z")

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No comment

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**Author:** ![K20power](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/41988e/32.png) [@K20power](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/K20power)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2009, 4:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/amds-1991-audi-200-project/246911/28 "2009-09-21T16:38:13Z")

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> [@Its about damn time...](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/its-about-damn-time/23301/20):
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> Shits getting s4 brakes as you read this

So they work?!??!!

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**Author:** ![ninety1two40](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ninety1two40/32/6332_2.png) [@ninety1two40](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ninety1two40)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2009, 5:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/amds-1991-audi-200-project/246911/29 "2009-09-21T17:20:16Z")

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Is that the radiator mounted off to the drivers side? Doesn’t seem big enough to cool a motor that big.

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**Author:** ![6SPD\_S4](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/6spd_s4/32/6326_2.png) [@6SPD\_S4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/6SPD_S4)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2009, 8:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/amds-1991-audi-200-project/246911/30 "2009-09-21T20:35:55Z")

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Motor that big? its only a 2.2L lol

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**Author:** ![Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mk4_30r_ban/32/6347_2.png) [@Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mk4_30R_Ban)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2009, 9:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/amds-1991-audi-200-project/246911/31 "2009-09-21T21:58:49Z")

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NEWS FLASH : THE “NEW” BRAKES ARE NASTY!!!

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**Author:** ![ninety1two40](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ninety1two40/32/6332_2.png) [@ninety1two40](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ninety1two40)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2009, 4:09am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/amds-1991-audi-200-project/246911/32 "2009-09-22T04:09:36Z")

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> [@Website Theft!](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/website-theft/23307/27):
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> Motor that big? its only a 2.2L lol

Yeah I know, but isn’t this the straigh 5 cylinder or am I being retarded? My 2.5L six would heat up the stock S14 rad which is twice the size.

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**Author:** ![Shady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6de8d8/32.png) [@Shady](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shady)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2009, 4:21am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/amds-1991-audi-200-project/246911/33 "2009-09-22T04:21:45Z")

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> [@ninety1two40"](#):
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> Yeah I know, but isn’t this the straigh 5 cylinder or am I being retarded? My 2.5L six would heat up the stock S14 rad which is twice the size.

All depends on the cooling passages/flow/ and obviously efficiency of the rad. if i had to guess

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**Author:** ![bennyfizzle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bennyfizzle/32/6291_2.png) [@bennyfizzle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bennyfizzle)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2009, 4:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/amds-1991-audi-200-project/246911/34 "2009-09-22T04:30:38Z")

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IT’S FINE STEVEN

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**Author:** ![ninety1two40](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ninety1two40/32/6332_2.png) [@ninety1two40](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ninety1two40)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2009, 4:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/amds-1991-audi-200-project/246911/35 "2009-09-22T04:33:08Z")

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> [@FF or Cheap: Cleaning Garage - Now w/56k Warning!](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ff-or-cheap-cleaning-garage-now-w-56k-warning/23327/18):
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> IT’S FINE STEVEN

:lol oh is it? Even when he upgrades the turbo and starts whooping ass at the track? huh? Is it FINE than Benny, is it!?

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**Author:** ![bennyfizzle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bennyfizzle/32/6291_2.png) [@bennyfizzle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bennyfizzle)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2009, 4:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/amds-1991-audi-200-project/246911/36 "2009-09-22T04:37:08Z")

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MAYBE NOT STEVEN

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**Author:** ![JVG](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jvg/32/6348_2.png) [@JVG](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JVG)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2009, 4:54am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/amds-1991-audi-200-project/246911/37 "2009-09-22T04:54:57Z")

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> [@Mk4 30R"](#):
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> NEWS FLASH : THE “NEW” BRAKES ARE NASTY!!!

:ponderBrett, aka everyone else’ locally PA system on THEIR car.

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**Author:** ![DUKE\_LADUKE](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/duke_laduke/32/6317_2.png) [@DUKE\_LADUKE](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/DUKE_LADUKE)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2009, 5:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/amds-1991-audi-200-project/246911/38 "2009-09-22T05:53:20Z")

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This thing is pretty pimp. Can’t wait to see this thing when you start to work on it.

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**Author:** ![AMD\_IS\_THE\_BEST](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/amd_is_the_best/32/6342_2.png) [@AMD\_IS\_THE\_BEST](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/AMD_IS_THE_BEST)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2009, 11:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/amds-1991-audi-200-project/246911/39 "2009-09-22T11:52:07Z")

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So I just picked up a 91 200 20v and I am slowly working through the list of issues with it. The first task was the brakes. Pads were metal on metal and UFO rotors were completly shot. Literally paper thin. Finding these parts is not easy! None of the local parts store could even come close to getting me something useful. So, here were my options…german auto parts coming in to $650 or the dealer at nearly $750 or what I ended up doing…

![http://www.pbase.com/amdisthebest/image/117607628large.jpg](http://www.pbase.com/amdisthebest/image/117607628large.jpg)

So, I had recently upgraded my B5 S4’s brakes up to a Brembo big brake kit and had the stock rotors and calipers laying around. Hmm, free brakes I though… So on to the task I went.

I pulled off all of the UFO junk and got the car down the just the hub/spindles and went to test fit my S4’s rotor on the 200’s hub…no go. The outside diameter of the 200’s hub was ~half an inch larger. Damn! So, being that my father is a macheinst we pulled out the wheel bearing housings, pushed out the hubs and went to town on the hubs with the lathe. Knocked a half inch off of them and the B5 S4’s rotors fit like a glove.

Before:  
 ![http://www.pbase.com/amdisthebest/image/117607617large.jpg](http://www.pbase.com/amdisthebest/image/117607617large.jpg)

Durring:  
 ![http://www.pbase.com/amdisthebest/image/117607626large.jpg](http://www.pbase.com/amdisthebest/image/117607626large.jpg)

After:  
 ![http://www.pbase.com/amdisthebest/image/117607624large.jpg](http://www.pbase.com/amdisthebest/image/117607624large.jpg)

On to the calipers. I pushed the hubs back in with some new bearings and when on to fitting the calipers. I bolted the rotor to the hub and placed the S4 caliper over the rotor. I couldn’t believe my eyes! Two of the three holes in the spindle lined up perfect with the S4 caliper! The stock caliper uses M12 bolts and the S4 caliper uses M14’s so we punched out the holes in the housing to 14mm. The third boss (hole) was in the way so we proceeded to cut that off to make room for the big new calipers. The stock S4 caliper to housing bolts were approx 5mm too long so we modified them cutting them down to size. So, now the S4 rotor and caliper fit hapily on the 200’s bearing housing!

Housing mods:  
 ![http://www.pbase.com/amdisthebest/image/117607620large.jpg](http://www.pbase.com/amdisthebest/image/117607620large.jpg)

![http://www.pbase.com/amdisthebest/image/117607622large.jpg](http://www.pbase.com/amdisthebest/image/117607622large.jpg)

As far as brake lines go, all of the stock S4 brake lines were used and were perfect length. I put the S4’s drivers side caliper on the pass side of the 200 and the pass side on the 200’s driver side. This was because the calipers sit toward the back of the car on the S4 where as they are in the front of the wheel on the 200. This keeps the bleeders pointing up so that air rises.

One the car:  
 ![http://www.pbase.com/amdisthebest/image/117607629large.jpg](http://www.pbase.com/amdisthebest/image/117607629large.jpg)

![http://www.pbase.com/amdisthebest/image/117607636large.jpg](http://www.pbase.com/amdisthebest/image/117607636large.jpg)

The cars:  
 ![http://www.pbase.com/amdisthebest/image/117607632large.jpg](http://www.pbase.com/amdisthebest/image/117607632large.jpg)

The car stops AMAZING! It is truly ridiculous how well the brakes perform on the car. Also, brakes pads and rotors can be purchased almost anywhere. Only downside is that I have to have pretty 17" wheels or larger on the car at all times ;).

I hope all of this nonsense makes sense and I will have pics up shortly.

Nick

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**Author:** ![ninety1two40](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ninety1two40/32/6332_2.png) [@ninety1two40](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ninety1two40)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2009, 11:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/amds-1991-audi-200-project/246911/40 "2009-09-22T11:55:12Z")

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Wow man awesome work! Looks like you got quite the shop to work in as well!

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