# America needs to learn from Australia **URL:** \ **Category:** PittSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [May 4, 2007, 6:09am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/america-needs-to-learn-from-australia/189724 "2007-05-04T06:09:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 9
**Author:** ![imported\_showtime](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/51bf81/32.png) [@imported\_showtime](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/imported_showtime)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2007, 9:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/america-needs-to-learn-from-australia/189724/9 "2007-05-04T09:50:18Z")
> [@Photos from my trip to SF, Ca.](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/photos-from-my-trip-to-sf-ca/29905/23): > > It was not my intention to begin a religious debate, but let me assure you that Jesus and Santa are much different. I am sorry that you’ve had such a narrow and seemingly negative view of the Christian religion. > > I freely admit that I am a Christian, but nowhere in this thread before now have I said that I am. > > Your historical perspective is flat wrong. Jesus was crucified by the government. One did not replace the other. We have always had both. > > “The Holidays” as you call it, only exist because of religious history. Christmas and Easter each celebrating different parts of Jesus life aren’t about “family” they began because of Jesus. It’s a great time to be with family, but you can’t change the origins. Of course there are other holidays, but those are both rooted in Christianity. > > You can rest on one mid 20th century ruling about the separation of church and state, and try to ignore the founding of the country, but that doesn’t change the fact that the majority of the founding fathers were Christians. > > I am pretty tolerant. I only take issue with the fact that people think it’s a good idea to change this country to accomdate some new-comers. People have been adapting to live here for centuries, look at the rich history at Ellis Island, if you haven’t been there, it’s a great tour, I learned a lot. > > Read up on Islam, it is not a tolerant religion. I’m tolerant, but I’m not stupid. > Have you ever seen a Christian strap a bomb to himself, and blow up a train full of people, hoping to be with 72 virgins? i’m not anti christian either…i’m just don’t like when people take it so serious…like you said to strap a bomb to themselves to blow up a bus or bomb an abortion clinc in the name of christ…its all crazy. & as far as santa it was just an example… its a story that we use as a form of control just like the bible…but with santa @ some point you come to see the realization…but most people never free thier mind from religion. & yes i know about islam, i also know plenty about christanity(went to a religious school during my childhood)…i try to have an understanding of all forms of religion. my histrical perspective is wrong?? really… let me ask you this then. was jesus the only “christ” or “messiah” let me ask you this…if i write a book & then years later you write a book & the story is the same or very similar…its that coincidence?..or did you copy? lets looks @ some history 1200BC there was virishna…born from a virgin, threatened by government, given gifts @ birth(franken-whatever, etc…) performed miracles & was curcifed between 2 theves on a cross…hmmm coinsidence? Budha Sakia, Odin, Hesus, and many ther all have the same or simlar stores. Krishna was like 3000 yrs before Jesus, carpenter father, virgin mother crucifed between 2 thieves, blah, blah, blah. now christianity is the newest out of all these religions…so let think about this… i think Horus is the earliest…hes the egyptian christ…similar story hes the eye on top of the pyramid on the dollar bill my point is…religion has its place in the growth of a human, but @ some point i feel that you need to free your mind…staying in the rut & taking it to serious is the cause of these psychos killing people in the name of god, christ, allah, etc… --- _[View the full topic](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/america-needs-to-learn-from-australia/189724)._