# American Car Companies Shut Out by the Japanese

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**Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\
**Created:** [March 2, 2006, 10:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/american-car-companies-shut-out-by-the-japanese/8827 "2006-03-02T22:05:30Z")\
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**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2006, 10:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/american-car-companies-shut-out-by-the-japanese/8827/1 "2006-03-02T22:05:30Z")

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Consumer Reports top picks of 2006 = all Japanese vehicals.

First time in history.

[Click HERE for Video](http://us.video.aol.com/video.index.adp?mode=2&guideContext=65.73&pmmsid=1472385)

![http://www.buffalonews.com/graphics/2006/03/02/actualsize/0302topcars.jpg](http://www.buffalonews.com/graphics/2006/03/02/actualsize/0302topcars.jpg)

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**Author:** ![Paulo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/paulo/32/7328_2.png) [@Paulo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Paulo)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2006, 10:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/american-car-companies-shut-out-by-the-japanese/8827/2 "2006-03-02T22:09:23Z")

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bound to happen sooner or later.

\<— not surprised at all.

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**Author:** ![Tkklemann](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tkklemann/32/7298_2.png) [@Tkklemann](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Tkklemann)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2006, 4:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/american-car-companies-shut-out-by-the-japanese/8827/3 "2006-03-03T04:58:14Z")

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To bad they got the fun to drive wrong, it is suppost to be spelled

M-I-T-S-U-B-I-S-H-I E-V-O-L-U-T-I-O-N

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**Author:** ![psphinx81](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e9a140/32.png) [@psphinx81](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/psphinx81)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2006, 5:02am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/american-car-companies-shut-out-by-the-japanese/8827/4 "2006-03-03T05:02:27Z")

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:word: evo is way more fun to drive IMO

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**Author:** ![AlbinoMonkeyRat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/bb73d2/32.png) [@AlbinoMonkeyRat](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/AlbinoMonkeyRat)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2006, 5:06am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/american-car-companies-shut-out-by-the-japanese/8827/5 "2006-03-03T05:06:36Z")

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^ Evo was probably a close second, I would imagine.

I would thank all of the US auto unions for this. the Unions are expensive and to be able to afford to keep contract with those unions, US automakers have to cut costs somewhere. It usually turns out to be something in the general quality of the vehicles.

Also note that this is a Consumer Reports result. Typically, it’s just people who actually write in…Just more people who bought Japanese wrote in saying how they are pleased with their vehicle. I wouldn’t doubt that there are just as many people who bought American cars that are pleased with their purchase, but there were probably more camplaints about American cars sent in…probably by cranky old (grand)mother fuckers who don’t believe in plastic.

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**Author:** ![Xander](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/xander/32/7597_2.png) [@Xander](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Xander)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2006, 5:13am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/american-car-companies-shut-out-by-the-japanese/8827/6 "2006-03-03T05:13:17Z")

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Doughnuts in the STi are easier, maybe that’s what those tight wad consumer reports guys are considering fun :tif:

X…

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**Author:** ![93dx\_hatch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/9/90ced4/32.png) [@93dx\_hatch](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/93dx_hatch)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2006, 5:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/american-car-companies-shut-out-by-the-japanese/8827/7 "2006-03-03T05:17:23Z")

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honda FTW as usual this is no surprise to me

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**Author:** ![fiend540](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bcef8e/32.png) [@fiend540](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fiend540)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2006, 6:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/american-car-companies-shut-out-by-the-japanese/8827/8 "2006-03-03T06:50:15Z")

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Meh some of their choices make sense, but then again some don’t. Like the Ridgeline for best truck?

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**Author:** ![JaysGreenLX](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jaysgreenlx/32/7321_2.png) [@JaysGreenLX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JaysGreenLX)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2006, 6:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/american-car-companies-shut-out-by-the-japanese/8827/9 "2006-03-03T06:55:10Z")

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> [@Tkklemann](#):
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> To bad they got the fun to drive wrong, it is suppost to be spelled
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> M-I-T-S-U-B-I-S-H-I E-V-O-L-U-T-I-O-N

Maybe reliability played a factor. 4G63 - boom

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**Author:** ![double\_j](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/double_j/32/7380_2.png) [@double\_j](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/double_j)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2006, 7:04am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/american-car-companies-shut-out-by-the-japanese/8827/10 "2006-03-03T07:04:24Z")

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> [@Tkklemann](#):
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> To bad they got the fun to drive wrong, it is suppost to be spelled
> 
> M-I-T-S-U-B-I-S-H-I E-V-O-L-U-T-I-O-N

i have driven a couple of STis at work. i wouldn’t kick 'em out of bed for eating crackers.

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**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2006, 7:11am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/american-car-companies-shut-out-by-the-japanese/8827/11 "2006-03-03T07:11:58Z")

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Have you ever heard someone say, “I buy American cars because they are the best”?  
Probably not because people usually say, “I buy American to support Americans”!  
Ironically if you check out a Wal-Mart parking lot it is full of American cars.  
Wal-Mart imports over $12 BILLION from China a year and sells that crap to these people.  
Why would anyone want to support the UAW and basically fuck every other US manufacturer in the ass by buying Chinese crap from Wal-Mart?  
Go to any domestic car drivers house I gaurantee it is full of shit made in China.

Rant off

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**Author:** ![Juan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a698b9/32.png) [@Juan](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Juan)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2006, 7:21am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/american-car-companies-shut-out-by-the-japanese/8827/12 "2006-03-03T07:21:50Z")

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Imports \> \* :tup:

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**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2006, 7:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/american-car-companies-shut-out-by-the-japanese/8827/13 "2006-03-03T07:31:28Z")

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Looks like Honduh wrote them the biggest check. I mean, come on. HONDA RIDGELINE IS THE BEST PICKUP??? What kind of homosexual panty waisted motherfuckers picked that?!?!?! It doesn’t even have a V8 option, can tow all of a whopping 5,000 pounds, and makes a whopping 245 ft-lbs!!! Even Dodge Dakotas and Toyota Tacomas make more torque than that. I’m sorry but that selection alone completely invalidates the entire list for me.

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**Author:** ![jeeves744](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jeeves744/32/7619_2.png) [@jeeves744](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jeeves744)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2006, 7:40am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/american-car-companies-shut-out-by-the-japanese/8827/14 "2006-03-03T07:40:59Z")

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SUV over $30k, i want to know if that got picked because its a hybrid.  
Pickup truck, thats just wrong  
Fun to drive- was there a price range or something for this catagory?

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**Author:** ![RobHimself](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e480ec/32.png) [@RobHimself](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RobHimself)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2006, 7:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/american-car-companies-shut-out-by-the-japanese/8827/15 "2006-03-03T07:42:47Z")

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Shredd and ragen were talking about this, shredd at one point said the cobalt was fun. At that time i was on my way to work passing by where their studio was. I was so tempted to call in and have them come out to the parking lot.

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**Author:** ![Zer0DazE](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/zer0daze/32/7624_2.png) [@Zer0DazE](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Zer0DazE)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2006, 8:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/american-car-companies-shut-out-by-the-japanese/8827/16 "2006-03-03T08:43:45Z")

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> [@BikerFry](#):
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> Looks like Honduh wrote them the biggest check. I mean, come on. HONDA RIDGELINE IS THE BEST PICKUP??? What kind of homosexual panty waisted motherfuckers picked that?!?!?! It doesn’t even have a V8 option, can tow all of a whopping 5,000 pounds, and makes a whopping 245 ft-lbs!!! Even Dodge Dakotas and Toyota Tacomas make more torque than that. I’m sorry but that selection alone completely invalidates the entire list for me.

you are right, the honda should not have been the truck picked. the toyota should have been.

but they probably picked the honda because of the innovations. there is a lot of cool/functional shit/features in/on that truck.

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**Author:** ![fairgentleman\_Z](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fairgentleman_z/32/7263_2.png) [@fairgentleman\_Z](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fairgentleman_Z)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2006, 8:48am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/american-car-companies-shut-out-by-the-japanese/8827/17 "2006-03-03T08:48:06Z")

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> [@Zer0DazE](#):
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> you are right, the honda should not have been the truck picked. the toyota should have been.

agreed

-and-

Anyone:  
**How many of those cars listed are manufactured in the U.S.?**

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**Author:** ![JaysGreenLX](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jaysgreenlx/32/7321_2.png) [@JaysGreenLX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JaysGreenLX)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2006, 8:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/american-car-companies-shut-out-by-the-japanese/8827/18 "2006-03-03T08:51:46Z")

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The Impreza is built in Japan, don’t know about the others.

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**Author:** ![Zer0DazE](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/zer0daze/32/7624_2.png) [@Zer0DazE](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Zer0DazE)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2006, 9:01am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/american-car-companies-shut-out-by-the-japanese/8827/19 "2006-03-03T09:01:05Z")

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> [@fairgentleman Z](#):
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> How many of those cars listed are manufactured in the U.S.?[/b]

im pretty sure the hondas are all built somewhere in north america.

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**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2006, 9:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/american-car-companies-shut-out-by-the-japanese/8827/20 "2006-03-03T09:37:18Z")

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^^Good points. I’m reading The World Is Flat right now and learning of some of the stuff the book talks about demonstrates how it is getting tough to say that any particular product is from one country. Can’t really say that Japanese cars won when a lot of them aren’t built in Japan. I wonder how many are designed in one country, parts built in another, assembled in another, with money held in another, and so on…

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