# americian border weakness **URL:** \ **Category:** PittSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [November 5, 2009, 7:05am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/americian-border-weakness/204112 "2009-11-05T07:05:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![OLDS\_ROCKETMAN](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/olds_rocketman/32/5942_2.png) [@OLDS\_ROCKETMAN](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/OLDS_ROCKETMAN)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2009, 1:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/americian-border-weakness/204112/21 "2009-11-05T13:40:20Z")
> [@kilmer420"](#): > > It’s not about good intentions, what is this person suppose to do in that situation? Of course the parents are pure garbage and to blame and now nowhere to be found even. Trust me, it’s not black and white, these politicians aren’t that dumb, hence why this is one of the many major issues going on today in USandA. the person is fucked…thats just the way it is. ---
**Author:** ![77rednecktruck](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/77rednecktruck/32/5966_2.png) [@77rednecktruck](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/77rednecktruck)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2009, 1:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/americian-border-weakness/204112/22 "2009-11-05T13:41:01Z")
> [@Good k20 Performance Brands](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/good-k20-performance-brands/41502/9): > > While I agree that we shouldn’t have to pay for the people that use our resources, but that’s a whole another convo. Actually, lots of Amurrikans turn down jobs that they aren’t willing to do, because it’s more cost effective and less effort for them to sit on welfare programs. Regardless, there are a lot of ‘immigrants’ specifically ‘illegals’ that are born abroad, and their parents bring them here illegally at a very young age for hopes of a better life, and can you blame them? I know McCain doesn’t, you can read about that below. Then, they live in CA or LA or TX or AZ or whatever city/state. So, they only know English. They have lived here their whole life essentially. They don’t have birth certificates, but want to work and were educated here. What are they suppose to do? I know of a person in that specific situation. You know where he is sitting now? In one of our jails. What good does that bring to anyone? It’s just dumb! So, the whole situation is a bit more complicated then your idealistic responses mr. IT trucker… It is not complicated. If you live in the US, become a citizen and pay your taxes like the rest of us. If they are all such good people who want to work and be educated, then go through the proper channels to become legal. I don’t blame people for coming here and it’s the American way to allow that, but you have to do it legally. If you are living in the country illegally there should be 2 options for you, deported or shot. There is no gray area. > [@kilmer420"](#): > > It’s not about good intentions, what is this person suppose to do in that situation? Of course the parents are pure garbage and to blame and now nowhere to be found even. Trust me, it’s not black and white, these politicians aren’t that dumb, hence why this is one of the many major issues going on today in USandA. the person is supposed to GTFO in that situation. ---
**Author:** ![Quik](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/quik/32/5979_2.png) [@Quik](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Quik)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2009, 2:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/americian-border-weakness/204112/23 "2009-11-05T14:09:14Z")
> [@you all may be wondering...](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/you-all-may-be-wondering/41516/19): > > the person is fucked…thats just the way it is. go about it the proper way and things will be right. Either become legal or go back to where you came from so sick of having to choose from spanish or english. its fucking america it should only be english with no option of spanish. our familys had to learn english when they came here why are the beaners any different ---
**Author:** ![Pewter](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pewter/32/5936_2.png) [@Pewter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Pewter)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2009, 2:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/americian-border-weakness/204112/24 "2009-11-05T14:32:10Z")
> [@you all may be wondering...](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/you-all-may-be-wondering/41516/20): > > It is not complicated. If you live in the US, become a citizen and pay your taxes like the rest of us. If they are all such good people who want to work and be educated, then go through the proper channels to become legal. > > I don’t blame people for coming here and it’s the American way to allow that, but you have to do it legally. If you are living in the country illegally there should be 2 options for you, deported or shot. There is no gray area. > > the person is supposed to GTFO in that situation. > [@My entire car history](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/my-entire-car-history/41524/11): > > go about it the proper way and things will be right. Either become legal or go back to where you came from > > so sick of having to choose from spanish or english. its fucking america it should only be english with no option of spanish. our familys had to learn english when they came here why are the beaners any different 🍺🍺🍺 ---
**Author:** ![Shaggy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/shaggy/32/5945_2.png) [@Shaggy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shaggy)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2009, 2:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/americian-border-weakness/204112/25 "2009-11-05T14:35:40Z")
On this day in history… …in 1955, Doctor Emmet Lathrop Brown was standing on a toilet hanging a wall clock when he slipped and bumped his head on the bathroom sink. Unconscious, Doc had a vision. And that vision was that of a flux capacitor ---
**Author:** ![OLDS\_ROCKETMAN](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/olds_rocketman/32/5942_2.png) [@OLDS\_ROCKETMAN](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/OLDS_ROCKETMAN)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2009, 3:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/americian-border-weakness/204112/26 "2009-11-05T15:08:55Z")
> [@most of u probly wont like me but ill change](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/most-of-u-probly-wont-like-me-but-ill-change/41533/10): > > On this day in history… > …in 1955, Doctor Emmet Lathrop Brown was standing on a toilet hanging a wall clock when he slipped and bumped his head on the bathroom sink. Unconscious, Doc had a vision. And that vision was that of a flux capacitor post of the decade!!! ---
**Author:** ![kilmer420](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/d6d6ee/32.png) [@kilmer420](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/kilmer420)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2009, 3:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/americian-border-weakness/204112/27 "2009-11-05T15:09:28Z")
> [@you all may be wondering...](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/you-all-may-be-wondering/41516/20): > > It is not complicated. If you live in the US, become a citizen and pay your taxes like the rest of us. If they are all such good people who want to work and be educated, then go through the proper channels to become legal. > > I don’t blame people for coming here and it’s the American way to allow that, but you have to do it legally. If you are living in the country illegally there should be 2 options for you, deported or shot. There is no gray area. > > the person is supposed to GTFO in that situation. Proper channels, LOL. This person grew up here and doesn’t speak Spanish even. Their choice is to go back to country of origin, but they have no documents to prove where they were born. So, they try and apply for citizenship and waivers and such and in the process get sent to jail. That’s not a good enough answer. Even McStain wanted amnesty for these people. It’s much more gray then how you perceive it… ---
**Author:** ![Quik](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/quik/32/5979_2.png) [@Quik](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Quik)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2009, 3:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/americian-border-weakness/204112/28 "2009-11-05T15:13:52Z")
its harsh but maybe this will be used as an example. You try and be sneaky with working the system. In the end you will be caught no documents you dont exist in this country. with that being said, a burden to society’s debt. Easily resolved with a nice bus ride to the border ---
**Author:** ![77rednecktruck](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/77rednecktruck/32/5966_2.png) [@77rednecktruck](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/77rednecktruck)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2009, 3:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/americian-border-weakness/204112/29 "2009-11-05T15:17:44Z")
> [@VW Cabriolet Project for the wifey](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/vw-cabriolet-project-for-the-wifey/38206/37): > > Proper channels, LOL. This person grew up here and doesn’t speak Spanish even. Their choice is to go back to country of origin, but they have no documents to prove where they were born. So, they try and apply for citizenship and waivers and such and in the process get sent to jail. That’s not a good enough answer. Even McStain wanted amnesty for these people. It’s much more gray then how you perceive it… I don’t care where they go. If you are in the country, you should be a citizen and paying your share. If you are not a citizen, you should be working towards citizenship(in a reasonable time frame, like 48 hours or so). 🙂 If you are not a citizen or working towards it, GTFO. And an “Illegal Alien” should be in jail, they are illegal. I see nothing wrong with that. Well, I don’t like paying for these illegals to sit in prison so either send then somewhere else or… ---
**Author:** ![GNocide](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/gnocide/32/5947_2.png) [@GNocide](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/GNocide)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2009, 4:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/americian-border-weakness/204112/30 "2009-11-05T16:54:36Z")
> [@Your Best interest - Threads you shouldn't Start](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/your-best-interest-threads-you-shouldnt-start/41530/9): > > So you’re angry because our government doesn’t treat people like shit? its about providing and protecting US…its our country WHAT THE FUCK DID THESE foreign garbage assholes EVER DO FOR US? fuck Islam!!! ---
**Author:** ![kilmer420](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/d6d6ee/32.png) [@kilmer420](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/kilmer420)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2009, 6:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/americian-border-weakness/204112/31 "2009-11-06T06:25:45Z")
> [@NYSpeed is growing up v. Home Purchase](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nyspeed-is-growing-up-v-home-purchase/41531/23): > > I don’t care where they go. If you are in the country, you should be a citizen and paying your share. If you are not a citizen, you should be working towards citizenship(in a reasonable time frame, like 48 hours or so). 🙂 If you are not a citizen or working towards it, GTFO. > > And an “Illegal Alien” should be in jail, they are illegal. I see nothing wrong with that. Well, I don’t like paying for these illegals to sit in prison so either send then somewhere else or… That’s the thing. While working here as a construction worker, they allowed him to pay taxes. So, he did his share. It’s easy to say, become legal or GTFO, but in reality, that is what he tried to do, and was sent to jail. If you want to believe your idealistic thoughts, that’s fine, but it’s not that black and white in the end…realism ---
**Author:** ![bics56](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/47e85d/32.png) [@bics56](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bics56)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2009, 7:46am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/americian-border-weakness/204112/32 "2009-11-06T07:46:33Z")
Look nobody gives two shits about your friend…at the end of the day if you here illegally then the burden is yours, is it your fault…maybe maybe not either way it is your burden. I know it isn’t “fair”…but boo hoo life isn’t fair sometimes so deal with it. You let shit like this slide then the next thing you know you have a huge problem…which we do. You cut down on everything and stay strict/firm with the laws then problems will start to get better. ---
**Author:** ![Swarzkopf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7feea3/32.png) [@Swarzkopf](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Swarzkopf)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2009, 7:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/americian-border-weakness/204112/33 "2009-11-06T07:58:15Z")
As long as jobs are available here for illegal immigrants, illegal immigrants will continue coming here. Solution? Impose HEAVY penalties on the employers of illegal aliens, including massive fines and jail time. Right now, employers of illegal aliens get a slap on the wrist- if they’re facing jail time, they’re much less likely to hire Juan El WithoutPaperos. Enforce these penalties- instead of going after illegal immigrants, use ICE to go after their employers. When the jobs are gone, the illegals will stop coming here. Why doesn’t our government do this already? Duh, most of our politicians employ illegals in one capacity or another- of COURSE they’re not going to pass legislation that would be deterimental to themselves. ---
**Author:** ![Quik](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/quik/32/5979_2.png) [@Quik](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Quik)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2009, 1:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/americian-border-weakness/204112/34 "2009-11-06T13:11:51Z")
you dont see any illegals in a construction union and its the way it should be. when i was nonunion i seen so many damm beaners it was a joke and next to none spoke english. Dirty mothefuckers to with how they used the portajohns and lunch area. Work was piss poor quailty to ppl rather pay cheap labor and take the chance then pay good workers a good wage for skilled work. [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/americian-border-weakness/204112.md?page=1)