# americian border weakness **URL:** \ **Category:** PittSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [November 5, 2009, 7:05am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/americian-border-weakness/204112 "2009-11-05T07:05:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 18
**Author:** ![kilmer420](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/d6d6ee/32.png) [@kilmer420](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/kilmer420)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2009, 1:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/americian-border-weakness/204112/18 "2009-11-05T13:11:16Z")
> [@NYSpeed is growing up v. Home Purchase](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nyspeed-is-growing-up-v-home-purchase/41531/16): > > you can’t just shut down the borders, that’s kinda against what America was founded on. But there has to be some control and a way to do it that doesn’t screw the American citizens. > > Kilmer - I don’t care how hard it is for the illegals, that’s their problem. I shouldn’t have to pay for these fucks to come here and use up our resources. And that line about doing the shitty jobs is BS, if the illegals were not doing them, Americans would get it done. Some employers are just too stupid to realize that cutting down a little bit of their pay to hire illegals is killing this country. While I agree that we shouldn’t have to pay for the people that use our resources, but that’s a whole another convo. Actually, lots of Amurrikans turn down jobs that they aren’t willing to do, because it’s more cost effective and less effort for them to sit on welfare programs. Regardless, there are a lot of ‘immigrants’ specifically ‘illegals’ that are born abroad, and their parents bring them here illegally at a very young age for hopes of a better life, and can you blame them? I know McCain doesn’t, you can read about that below. Then, they live in CA or LA or TX or AZ or whatever city/state. So, they only know English. They have lived here their whole life essentially. They don’t have birth certificates, but want to work and were educated here. What are they suppose to do? I know of a person in that specific situation. You know where he is sitting now? In one of our jails. What good does that bring to anyone? It’s just dumb! So, the whole situation is a bit more complicated then your idealistic responses mr. IT trucker… > [@most of u probly wont like me but ill change](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/most-of-u-probly-wont-like-me-but-ill-change/41533/4): > > As long as we have socialists in power in this country, the border will remain wide open. > > It’s very simple… > > Free shit for illegals means more votes for socialist candidates. Funny you say that! The opponent to said socialists had his own battles and what did he propose in the end? [http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&ct=res&cd=2&ved=0CBMQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.parapundit.com%2Farchives%2F005217.html&ei=ID7zSt7ZLY7blAefnJGpAw&usg=AFQjCNE9n785osN\_u4f7pAQ2dainWn4r\_A&sig2=44PmQ1eQ-Fr6uQczomSk4A](http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&ct=res&cd=2&ved=0CBMQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.parapundit.com%2Farchives%2F005217.html&ei=ID7zSt7ZLY7blAefnJGpAw&usg=AFQjCNE9n785osN_u4f7pAQ2dainWn4r_A&sig2=44PmQ1eQ-Fr6uQczomSk4A) > **[FACT SHEET: Immigration](https://www.politifact.com/article/2008/jan/15/fact-sheet-immigration/)** > > SUMMARY: For many voters, illegal immigration is a key issue in the 2008 presidential race. Here's a look at the latest > **[Politics | Fox News](https://www.foxnews.com/politics)** > > Presidential politics and political news from foxnews.com. News about political parties, political campaigns, world and international politics, politics news headlines plus in-depth features and video clips. > [@source FOX NEWS](#): > > Many Arizonans had wanted to run John McCain out of town on a rail last year because of his support for what many perceived as amnesty for illegal immigrants in a reform bill he had proposed --- _[View the full topic](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/americian-border-weakness/204112)._