# And it begins.......

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/and-it-begins/248798>\
**Category:** Builds\
**Created:** [December 3, 2009, 7:41am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/and-it-begins/248798 "2009-12-03T07:41:48Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![rustyjones](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/71c47a/32.png) [@rustyjones](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/rustyjones)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2009, 7:41am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/and-it-begins/248798/1 "2009-12-03T07:41:48Z")

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![http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r23/rustyjones98/1202091932_01.jpg](http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r23/rustyjones98/1202091932_01.jpg)

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**Author:** ![Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mk4_30r_ban/32/6347_2.png) [@Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mk4_30R_Ban)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2009, 7:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/and-it-begins/248798/2 "2009-12-03T07:43:44Z")

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are you keep the same turbo setup, or going 30/35R?

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**Author:** ![LKSi](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/lksi/32/6316_2.png) [@LKSi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LKSi)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2009, 7:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/and-it-begins/248798/3 "2009-12-03T07:43:58Z")

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Getting ready to take some names next year?

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**Author:** ![freakLS7](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/freakls7/32/6298_2.png) [@freakLS7](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/freakLS7)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2009, 7:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/and-it-begins/248798/4 "2009-12-03T07:45:18Z")

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last i knew same turbo just piston/rod combo and springs/retainers

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**Author:** ![Sully93vr4](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sully93vr4/32/6278_2.png) [@Sully93vr4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Sully93vr4)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2009, 7:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/and-it-begins/248798/5 "2009-12-03T07:45:56Z")

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Maybe some body work/paint?

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**Author:** ![Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mk4_30r_ban/32/6347_2.png) [@Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mk4_30R_Ban)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2009, 7:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/and-it-begins/248798/6 "2009-12-03T07:47:41Z")

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> [@Suggest a Honda Muffler that wont sound like a honda.](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/suggest-a-honda-muffler-that-wont-sound-like-a-honda/26723/5):
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> last i knew same turbo just piston/rod combo and springs/retainers

.63 57trim right? cp/eagle(balanced) setup, stock sleeves should be enough. get some fresh cams for it.

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**Author:** ![freakLS7](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/freakls7/32/6298_2.png) [@freakLS7](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/freakLS7)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2009, 7:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/and-it-begins/248798/7 "2009-12-03T07:49:17Z")

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yeah i believe thats the turbo he was/is running it’ll still make good power!!!

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**Author:** ![Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mk4_30r_ban/32/6347_2.png) [@Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mk4_30R_Ban)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2009, 7:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/and-it-begins/248798/8 "2009-12-03T07:55:58Z")

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> [@Suggest a Honda Muffler that wont sound like a honda.](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/suggest-a-honda-muffler-that-wont-sound-like-a-honda/26723/8):
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> yeah i believe thats the turbo he was/is running it’ll still make good power!!!

they can make good power, low 400s, they are just lazy turbos. boost comes in slow(compared to a DBB turbo) and the torque spike is pretty abrupt, because its lazy. but as long as you have a good rpm range and can keep the turbo spooled between gears (honda flatfoot shift will do it) then youll be fine with it. its just the out of boost, into boost transition that the 57trim is odd. alot of cars have surge issues with them which usually will make the 50 trim, or 60trim a better choice.

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**Author:** ![rustyjones](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/71c47a/32.png) [@rustyjones](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/rustyjones)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2009, 10:04am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/and-it-begins/248798/9 "2009-12-03T10:04:56Z")

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> [@JayS a dad, 3/27/2007](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jays-a-dad-3-27-2007/26711/19):
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> Maybe some body work/paint?

yup thats project one…I was thinking wingless…evo RS white? champ. white? INPUT anyone?

> [@Flag burning ban shot down again.Can you guess how Hilary voted?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/flag-burning-ban-shot-down-again-can-you-guess-how-hilary-voted/13890/96):
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> are you keep the same turbo setup, or going 30/35R?

Plans right now are to keep the 57 trim…if I come into some money…Ill sell it and snag a 30r…but thats up in the air

> [@Fuel stabilizer question](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fuel-stabilizer-question/26725/4):
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> they can make good power, low 400s, they are just lazy turbos. boost comes in slow(compared to a DBB turbo) and the torque spike is pretty abrupt, because its lazy. but as long as you have a good rpm range and can keep the turbo spooled between gears (honda flatfoot shift will do it) then youll be fine with it. its just the out of boost, into boost transition that the 57trim is odd. alot of cars have surge issues with them which usually will make the 50 trim, or 60trim a better choice.

I actually make 9 psi pre-4000 rpms…I agree with all that you’ve said…but I’ve never really had any surge problems tho…but then again im on wastegate spring…I’d love to get a dbb turbo for sure…but I also know I can make 400whp with this turbo…

so hopefully:

cp/eagle combo, springs/retainers, type-r intake cam, victor x…new valves…oil pump. water pump, HG… yadda yadaa…and a clean low white teg…wingless :thumb

-jones

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**Author:** ![Sully93vr4](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sully93vr4/32/6278_2.png) [@Sully93vr4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Sully93vr4)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2009, 10:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/and-it-begins/248798/10 "2009-12-03T10:10:24Z")

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mmmm, love the Champ White!

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**Author:** ![Justin\_GSR](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/justin_gsr/32/6412_2.png) [@Justin\_GSR](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Justin_GSR)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2009, 10:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/and-it-begins/248798/11 "2009-12-03T10:39:32Z")

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o no its a race to who comes out in white first lol

nice to see work getting done to her auston

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**Author:** ![psi2high](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/psi2high/32/6320_2.png) [@psi2high](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/psi2high)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2009, 10:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/and-it-begins/248798/12 "2009-12-03T10:45:39Z")

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Looks like you got a good platform in the works. I would go with Champ white. Some thing about it is just plain clean. Good luck with the build man

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**Author:** ![ReDevil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/redevil/32/6385_2.png) [@ReDevil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ReDevil)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2009, 10:48am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/and-it-begins/248798/13 "2009-12-03T10:48:52Z")

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Champ White FTW!

Cant wait to see this beast rocking again!

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**Author:** ![GermanPSI](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/germanpsi/32/6353_2.png) [@GermanPSI](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/GermanPSI)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2009, 10:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/and-it-begins/248798/14 "2009-12-03T10:49:15Z")

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> [@The Justice System...](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-justice-system/26715/33):
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> o no its a race to who comes out in white first lol
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> nice to see work getting done to her auston

Looks like he has quite the head start

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**Author:** ![tdi\_logik](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tdi_logik/32/6310_2.png) [@tdi\_logik](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tdi_logik)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2009, 11:08am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/and-it-begins/248798/15 "2009-12-03T11:08:48Z")

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yea juSTINK he’s a head kid

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**Author:** ![Justin\_GSR](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/justin_gsr/32/6412_2.png) [@Justin\_GSR](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Justin_GSR)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2009, 11:08am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/and-it-begins/248798/16 "2009-12-03T11:08:59Z")

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[QUOTE=GermanPSI;498346]Looks like he has quite the head start[/QUOTE

3 grand is all thats keeping me from getting this 2000 white gsr in florida, she is all stock and has 53k on her, owned buy a guy thats in the military and its been sitting in his garage for the past year and a half, his parents are selling it for him

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**Author:** ![psi2high](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/psi2high/32/6320_2.png) [@psi2high](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/psi2high)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2009, 11:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/and-it-begins/248798/17 "2009-12-03T11:10:50Z")

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You had better come up with 3k then

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**Author:** ![ReDevil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/redevil/32/6385_2.png) [@ReDevil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ReDevil)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2009, 11:12am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/and-it-begins/248798/18 "2009-12-03T11:12:33Z")

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> [@\*R32 front end\* Feeler or for trade](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/r32-front-end-feeler-or-for-trade/26603/18):
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> 3 grand is all thats keeping me from getting this 2000 white gsr in florida, she is all stock and has 53k on her, owned buy a guy thats in the military and its been sitting in his garage for the past year and a half, his parents are selling it for him

Do et! Thats a steal, thanks Mom and Dad. That kids gonna be PISSed.

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**Author:** ![Justin\_GSR](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/justin_gsr/32/6412_2.png) [@Justin\_GSR](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Justin_GSR)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2009, 11:12am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/and-it-begins/248798/19 "2009-12-03T11:12:42Z")

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> [@Tuning](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tuning/26446/12):
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> You had better come up with 3k then

you can say that again, im trying very very hard

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**Author:** ![Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mk4_30r_ban/32/6347_2.png) [@Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mk4_30R_Ban)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2009, 11:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/and-it-begins/248798/20 "2009-12-03T11:17:05Z")

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> [@Honda launches the Civic Type R sedan in Japan](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/honda-launches-the-civic-type-r-sedan-in-japan/26739/3):
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> Do et! Thats a steal, thanks Mom and Dad. That kids gonna be PISSed.

they are handling the transaction for him, not selling it out from under him :ponder

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