# And this, Boys and Girls, is why you dont track a Viper with a stock oil pan... **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [August 24, 2007, 4:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/and-this-boys-and-girls-is-why-you-dont-track-a-viper-with-a-stock-oil-pan/34358 "2007-08-24T16:12:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Final\_GTS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/final_gts/32/7359_2.png) [@Final\_GTS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Final_GTS)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2007, 4:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/and-this-boys-and-girls-is-why-you-dont-track-a-viper-with-a-stock-oil-pan/34358/1 "2007-08-24T16:12:42Z")
Ouch… Cant wait to get this one apart. This model came with the custom sightglass window block option for viewing your oil level, the invisible rod option and the sideways pistons. Just a few pics for your viewing pleasure. PS- the pushrod shown in the picture… isnt where you think it is. look lower. ---
**Author:** ![Clean\_Baldy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/clean_baldy/32/7308_2.png) [@Clean\_Baldy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Clean_Baldy)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2007, 4:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/and-this-boys-and-girls-is-why-you-dont-track-a-viper-with-a-stock-oil-pan/34358/2 "2007-08-24T16:14:49Z")
i wish my block came with a viewing window… that’d be awesome! Do the sideways pistons reduce drag or something? Did the owner tell you what happened? ---
**Author:** ![Final\_GTS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/final_gts/32/7359_2.png) [@Final\_GTS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Final_GTS)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2007, 4:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/and-this-boys-and-girls-is-why-you-dont-track-a-viper-with-a-stock-oil-pan/34358/3 "2007-08-24T16:18:11Z")
[quote=“Clean Baldy,post:2,topic:34358"”] i wish my block came with a viewing window… that’d be awesome! Do the sideways pistons reduce drag or something? Did the owner tell you what happened? [/quote] I can install the window option for you, free of charge. I’ll call you when I have had a bad day and you can drop by… The sideways pistons reduce drag so much that you dont even need engine oil. We drill holes in your block (5 per side) to make sure that no oil is able to stay in the engine… it just causes more trouble than its worth. Yea, the owner told me what happened. This car made BIG power, but the shop that put the engine in the car didnt “force” him to buy the Comp Coupe oil pan or something better. He told them he’ll never track the car. Guess what, he did… once. Big power+stock pan is bad enough. Big power+stock pan+road course= death sentance. It will be rebuilt Better. Stronger. Faster… kinda like the million dollar man. new block/crank, NICE rods and pistons, NICE bearings, new coating set at a minimum. Hopefully he’ll go for the billet caps, a full stud kit and a nice oil system though, as not to repeat this, and to make the bottom end quite literally… bulletproof. ---
**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2007, 4:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/and-this-boys-and-girls-is-why-you-dont-track-a-viper-with-a-stock-oil-pan/34358/4 "2007-08-24T16:19:24Z")
pistons need ventilation too :shrug: ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2007, 4:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/and-this-boys-and-girls-is-why-you-dont-track-a-viper-with-a-stock-oil-pan/34358/5 "2007-08-24T16:21:01Z")
eek 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![bladez](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bladez/32/7237_2.png) [@bladez](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bladez)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2007, 4:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/and-this-boys-and-girls-is-why-you-dont-track-a-viper-with-a-stock-oil-pan/34358/6 "2007-08-24T16:21:06Z")
damn now thats shitty ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Final\_GTS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/final_gts/32/7359_2.png) [@Final\_GTS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Final_GTS)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2007, 4:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/and-this-boys-and-girls-is-why-you-dont-track-a-viper-with-a-stock-oil-pan/34358/7 "2007-08-24T16:21:28Z")
[quote=“boardjnky4,post:4,topic:34358"”] pistons need ventilation too :shrug: [/quote] I was actually thinking of making it a new alternative breather location…? ---
**Author:** ![ZOMGVTEK](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/zomgvtek/32/5063_2.png) [@ZOMGVTEK](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ZOMGVTEK)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2007, 4:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/and-this-boys-and-girls-is-why-you-dont-track-a-viper-with-a-stock-oil-pan/34358/8 "2007-08-24T16:23:00Z")
SIQQQ? How much HP does it add? ---
**Author:** ![Final\_GTS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/final_gts/32/7359_2.png) [@Final\_GTS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Final_GTS)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2007, 4:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/and-this-boys-and-girls-is-why-you-dont-track-a-viper-with-a-stock-oil-pan/34358/9 "2007-08-24T16:23:07Z")
[quote=“bladez,post:6,topic:34358"”] damn now thats shitty ☹ [/quote] This isnt going to be a cheap one, thats for sure. easily over 10 grand just for the block, 2 pistons and 2 rods… not to mention bearings, seals, headwork or head depending on extent, and a REAL oil system… and God knows what else by the time its all apart. ---
**Author:** ![BuickGN](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/buickgn/32/7200_2.png) [@BuickGN](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BuickGN)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2007, 4:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/and-this-boys-and-girls-is-why-you-dont-track-a-viper-with-a-stock-oil-pan/34358/10 "2007-08-24T16:23:12Z")
just goes to show ya, no matter how much money you have stupidity is right around the corner. ---
**Author:** ![Final\_GTS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/final_gts/32/7359_2.png) [@Final\_GTS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Final_GTS)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2007, 4:24pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/and-this-boys-and-girls-is-why-you-dont-track-a-viper-with-a-stock-oil-pan/34358/11 "2007-08-24T16:24:23Z")
[quote=“02AccordCoupe,post:8,topic:34358"”] SIQQQ? How much HP does it add? [/quote] How much horsepower does your car make? We’ll call that variable X. I gaurantee it will add -X horsepower or your money back. ---
**Author:** ![Final\_GTS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/final_gts/32/7359_2.png) [@Final\_GTS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Final_GTS)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2007, 4:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/and-this-boys-and-girls-is-why-you-dont-track-a-viper-with-a-stock-oil-pan/34358/12 "2007-08-24T16:28:59Z")
[quote=“BuickGN,post:10,topic:34358"”] just goes to show ya, no matter how much money you have stupidity is right around the corner. [/quote] I kinda have to spread the blame around a little. the owner certainly knew it would be an issue, but _how_ much of an issue probably wasnt conveyed to him. I told him flat out the other day, if that car was assembled here, I would NOT let him have his car back with the stock pan, period. He would have had to sign his name on the dotted line multiple times that he understood just how big of a risk it was before getting his hands on that car again. I dont think the other place pushed him quite as hard as I would have. Then again, he did tell them the car wouldnt go on the track… but we all know how that goes, and they should have known the same. Tough call… either way, it was an expensive mistake, but mistakes happen. ---
**Author:** ![BrockwayMT](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/brockwaymt/32/5060_2.png) [@BrockwayMT](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BrockwayMT)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2007, 5:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/and-this-boys-and-girls-is-why-you-dont-track-a-viper-with-a-stock-oil-pan/34358/13 "2007-08-24T17:10:14Z")
nice pushrod. I had to save the pic and mess with the contrast a little to see it. ---
**Author:** ![Final\_GTS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/final_gts/32/7359_2.png) [@Final\_GTS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Final_GTS)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2007, 6:57pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/and-this-boys-and-girls-is-why-you-dont-track-a-viper-with-a-stock-oil-pan/34358/14 "2007-08-24T18:57:14Z")
[quote=“BrockwayMT,post:13,topic:34358"”] nice pushrod. I had to save the pic and mess with the contrast a little to see it. [/quote] if you have a better pic- post it up! Camera kept getting blinded by the flash off the other parts… ---
**Author:** ![MPD47](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mpd47/32/7383_2.png) [@MPD47](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MPD47)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2007, 7:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/and-this-boys-and-girls-is-why-you-dont-track-a-viper-with-a-stock-oil-pan/34358/15 "2007-08-24T19:41:03Z")
:lol: Another “quality performance car”. ---
**Author:** ![ly555is](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3bc359/32.png) [@ly555is](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ly555is)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2007, 7:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/and-this-boys-and-girls-is-why-you-dont-track-a-viper-with-a-stock-oil-pan/34358/16 "2007-08-24T19:56:37Z")
it must have deviated from a straight line while accelerating ---
**Author:** ![Final\_GTS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/final_gts/32/7359_2.png) [@Final\_GTS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Final_GTS)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2007, 8:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/and-this-boys-and-girls-is-why-you-dont-track-a-viper-with-a-stock-oil-pan/34358/17 "2007-08-24T20:12:30Z")
[quote=“MPD47,post:15,topic:34358"”] :lol: Another “quality performance car”. [/quote] lol, yeah, because over 1000 horsepower should be no problem on all stock parts :rolljerk: IB4PORSCHEHUMPINGBEGINS ---
**Author:** ![Final\_GTS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/final_gts/32/7359_2.png) [@Final\_GTS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Final_GTS)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2007, 8:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/and-this-boys-and-girls-is-why-you-dont-track-a-viper-with-a-stock-oil-pan/34358/18 "2007-08-24T20:14:17Z")
[quote=“ly555is,post:16,topic:34358"”] it must have deviated from a straight line while accelerating [/quote] Exactly, you found the problem! Only problem is, the oil system issues require over 1G accelleration sustained to the side to occur… but since the Viper cant take a turn… :gotme: ---
**Author:** ![Muckman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@Muckman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Muckman)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2007, 8:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/and-this-boys-and-girls-is-why-you-dont-track-a-viper-with-a-stock-oil-pan/34358/19 "2007-08-24T20:22:14Z")
Whats wrong with the stock oil pan? Not enough baffeling? ---
**Author:** ![MPD47](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mpd47/32/7383_2.png) [@MPD47](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MPD47)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2007, 8:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/and-this-boys-and-girls-is-why-you-dont-track-a-viper-with-a-stock-oil-pan/34358/20 "2007-08-24T20:30:15Z")
[quote=“Final GTS,post:17,topic:34358"”] lol, yeah, because over 1000 horsepower should be no problem on all stock parts :rolljerk: IB4PORSCHEHUMPINGBEGINS [/quote] My shot was at not being able to track a car with a stock oil pan asshat. That’s pathetic. [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/and-this-boys-and-girls-is-why-you-dont-track-a-viper-with-a-stock-oil-pan/34358.md?page=2)