# And THIS is why I HATE the fucking cops

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**Created:** [September 27, 2011, 6:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/and-this-is-why-i-hate-the-fucking-cops/260619 "2011-09-27T18:10:04Z")\
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**Author:** ![capitalcrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e79b87/32.png) [@capitalcrew](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/capitalcrew)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2011, 8:50pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/and-this-is-why-i-hate-the-fucking-cops/260619/41 "2011-09-27T20:50:14Z")

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Eh you’ll be alright Dave. The story will probably only run once and it ran late anyways.

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**Author:** ![Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mk4_30r_ban/32/6347_2.png) [@Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mk4_30R_Ban)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2011, 9:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/and-this-is-why-i-hate-the-fucking-cops/260619/42 "2011-09-27T21:12:22Z")

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[http://www.fox23news.com/news/local/story/Man-arrested-for-chasing-another-with-loaded-shotg/F9W-tBvJs0m\_yfoeBPNjBg.cspx](http://www.fox23news.com/news/local/story/Man-arrested-for-chasing-another-with-loaded-shotg/F9W-tBvJs0m_yfoeBPNjBg.cspx)

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**Author:** ![RocketPunch](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rocketpunch/32/6429_2.png) [@RocketPunch](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RocketPunch)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2011, 11:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/and-this-is-why-i-hate-the-fucking-cops/260619/43 "2011-09-27T23:01:17Z")

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OP should voice your complain to the media outlet if your story and/or the police report is different than what is being reported.

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**Author:** ![Boxersix](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boxersix/32/6327_2.png) [@Boxersix](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Boxersix)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2011, 11:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/and-this-is-why-i-hate-the-fucking-cops/260619/44 "2011-09-27T23:01:52Z")

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Of all the shit that gets posted on this forum. Where are the fucking pics man! :rofl

Chasing a guy down with a loaded shotgun in public…I would hope you got cuffed for that Dave. Not saying it wasn’t warranted, but you’re a crazy mother fucker. :lol

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**Author:** ![slwrthnu](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/slwrthnu/32/6296_2.png) [@slwrthnu](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/slwrthnu)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2011, 11:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/and-this-is-why-i-hate-the-fucking-cops/260619/45 "2011-09-27T23:07:13Z")

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> [@so close (BOWLING)](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-close-bowling/42957/46):
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> not argueing with you, but I want to see you get robbed for $3,300 and then an hour later get the oppertunity to get your money back and not do a damn thing about it… I really wanna see this.

i never said i wouldn’t do anything about it. i just told you who you should really be mad at.

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**Author:** ![rexford\_flats\_racing](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rexford_flats_racing/32/6295_2.png) [@rexford\_flats\_racing](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/rexford_flats_racing)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2011, 4:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/and-this-is-why-i-hate-the-fucking-cops/260619/46 "2011-09-28T04:43:17Z")

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If he fired the gun he’d be in line for a Hannoush franchise.

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**Author:** ![SRS\_BZNS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/srs_bzns/32/6375_2.png) [@SRS\_BZNS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SRS_BZNS)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2011, 5:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/and-this-is-why-i-hate-the-fucking-cops/260619/47 "2011-09-28T05:17:31Z")

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should have shot him in the foot the second he walked back into the store and reached into his pocket.

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**Author:** ![Boost\_Creep](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boost_creep/32/6366_2.png) [@Boost\_Creep](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Boost_Creep)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2011, 5:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/and-this-is-why-i-hate-the-fucking-cops/260619/48 "2011-09-28T05:58:21Z")

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I suggest getting a good attorney.

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**Author:** ![usmc2801](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/usmc2801/32/6387_2.png) [@usmc2801](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/usmc2801)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2011, 6:08am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/and-this-is-why-i-hate-the-fucking-cops/260619/49 "2011-09-28T06:08:30Z")

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> [@Some Z06 parts...](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/some-z06-parts/45672/53):
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> I suggest getting a good attorney.

This!

Also I know its easy to lose your cool especially over a lot of money like that, but you need to think before acting still, I know your intentions were getting this guy who ripped you off but running in public with a loaded gun is just a terrible idea, I mean whats to say while chasing him you trip and fall and the gun goes off and you accidently shoot a young kid walking with a parent or something. Not trying to be an asshole but you have to look at the big picture before running around with a loaded gun. Just wooping that idiots ass would have been a lot safer/smarter and probably a lot more satisfying IMO.

Either way good luck with court hopefully it goes well and you learn in case it happens again.

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**Author:** ![love4boost](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/love4boost/32/6658_2.png) [@love4boost](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/love4boost)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2011, 6:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/and-this-is-why-i-hate-the-fucking-cops/260619/50 "2011-09-28T06:34:12Z")

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> [@Some Z06 parts...](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/some-z06-parts/45672/53):
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> I suggest getting a good attorney.

Hes taking care of it, says its not a big deal, hopefully hes right.

Criminal possesion of a weapon is beatable or close as I had good cause/intentions and the fact that instead of shooting right in my stoor I ran 600 ft without firing a shot.  
Menacing ive been charged before and got off with a violation which isnt a crime, hopefully I can get that again.  
Reckless endangerment Ive never been charged with nor do I know the seriousness of it so thats the charge im worried about… IDR if it was a felony or not.

> [@FS: Guitar Hero 2 (ps2)](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-guitar-hero-2-ps2/45615/2):
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> This!
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> Also I know its easy to lose your cool especially over a lot of money like that, but you need to think before acting still, I know your intentions were getting this guy who ripped you off but running in public with a loaded gun is just a terrible idea, I mean whats to say while chasing him you trip and fall and the gun goes off and you accidently shoot a young kid walking with a parent or something. Not trying to be an asshole but you have to look at the big picture before running around with a loaded gun. Just wooping that idiots ass would have been a lot safer/smarter and probably a lot more satisfying IMO.
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> Either way good luck with court hopefully it goes well and you learn in case it happens again.

gun was on saftey but yea, I regret just not beating the fuck out of him.

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**Author:** ![sweatynready](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@sweatynready](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sweatynready)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2011, 6:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/and-this-is-why-i-hate-the-fucking-cops/260619/51 "2011-09-28T06:52:37Z")

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that really sucks. im sorry that happened ☹

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**Author:** ![indy440](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b5ac83/32.png) [@indy440](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/indy440)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2011, 7:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/and-this-is-why-i-hate-the-fucking-cops/260619/52 "2011-09-28T07:10:35Z")

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just so im clear, was it the same guy that came back with another chain? or a different guy?

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**Author:** ![SSmokinn\_SS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@SSmokinn\_SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SSmokinn_SS)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2011, 8:14am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/and-this-is-why-i-hate-the-fucking-cops/260619/53 "2011-09-28T08:14:40Z")

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I have some “white gold” I will sell you for $3300…

on a serious note +1 for calling the cops. Shitty it didnt turn out like it should have. It seem’s like thats the way it mostly ends up.

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**Author:** ![love4boost](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/love4boost/32/6658_2.png) [@love4boost](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/love4boost)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2011, 9:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/and-this-is-why-i-hate-the-fucking-cops/260619/54 "2011-09-28T09:15:44Z")

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> [@Gone](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gone/45685/17):
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> just so im clear, was it the same guy that came back with another chain? or a different guy?

Two guys were working togeather, I guess they were going shop to shop fucking people over. Im willing to bet they had a shitload of merchandise on them which is why he said he took a Taxi from Queens to Albany meanwhile had a Mercedes Benz key on him when cops patted him down.

First guy came into the shop, got over on me… Second guy came in 5 minutes after me determining 100% the shit I got was fake trying to sell me the EXACT fucking chain with the SAME out of state CA license. Told the guy give me a minute to check it out, went in the back room and called the police… Guy ovheard me I guess bc the lady kept asking me to repeat the damn address and the guy said he had to go to his car which doesnt make sense cause he didnt have one and thats when I pulled the gun out and told him not to move.

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**Author:** ![Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mk4_30r_ban/32/6347_2.png) [@Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mk4_30R_Ban)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2011, 9:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/and-this-is-why-i-hate-the-fucking-cops/260619/55 "2011-09-28T09:33:56Z")

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art. 120.20 reckless endangerment in the 2nd degree.

Class A misdemeanor

art 120.25 RE 1st

Class D felony.

Article 120.13 Menacing first  
" a person is guilty of menacing in the first degree when he or she commits the crime of menacing in the second degree and has been previously convicted of the crime of menacing in the second degree or the crime of menacing a police officer or peace officer within the preceding ten years."

Class E felony.

art. 120.14 Menacing the 2nd degree  
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1. He or she intentionally places a person or attempts to place another person in reasonable fear of physical injury, serious physical injury or death by displaying a deadly weapon, dangerous instrument or what appears to be a pistol, revolver, rifle, shotgun, machine gun or other firearm.

Class A misdmeanor

art. 120.15 Menacing 3rd.

Class B misdemeanor

if i were you, i would find out your past convictions and Current criminal charges.

what i have posted is from the 2011 version of the NYS Penal law and criminal procedure law book.

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**Author:** ![love4boost](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/love4boost/32/6658_2.png) [@love4boost](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/love4boost)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2011, 9:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/and-this-is-why-i-hate-the-fucking-cops/260619/56 "2011-09-28T09:42:32Z")

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> [@What "standard multiple" did you use when buying a house?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-standard-multiple-did-you-use-when-buying-a-house/45679/12):
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> art. 120.20 reckless endangerment in the 2nd degree.
> 
> Class A misdemeanor
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> art 120.25 RE 1st
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> Class D felony.
> 
> Article 120.13 Menacing first  
> " a person is guilty of menacing in the first degree when he or she commits the crime of menacing in the second degree and has been previously convicted of the crime of menacing in the second degree or the crime of menacing a police officer or peace officer within the preceding ten years."
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> Class E felony.
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> art. 120.14 Menacing the 2nd degree  
> " "
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> 1. He or she intentionally places a person or attempts to place another person in reasonable fear of physical injury, serious physical injury or death by displaying a deadly weapon, dangerous instrument or what appears to be a pistol, revolver, rifle, shotgun, machine gun or other firearm.
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> Class A misdmeanor
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> art. 120.15 Menacing 3rd.
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> Class B misdemeanor
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> if i were you, i would find out your past convictions and Current criminal charges.
> 
> what i have posted is from the 2011 version of the NYS Penal law and criminal procedure law book.

I know what the charges mean and stuff I just dont know what the court sees as real serious and basic shit… Ive been charged with felonies before and have had them tried to disorderly conduct which is a violation not a crime… Ive been charged with a bunch of shit, but never convicted of anything… I know id beat this retarded case in trial but who the fuck wants to go to trial? Its scary even if youve got all the evidence in the world. Hoping theyll just give me another disorderly conduct and a big fine.

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**Author:** ![PFaux](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pfaux/32/6722_2.png) [@PFaux](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/PFaux)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2011, 9:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/and-this-is-why-i-hate-the-fucking-cops/260619/57 "2011-09-28T09:47:19Z")

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> [@5/24/08 - OFFICIAL NYSpeed Spring BBQ @ Dunnville Autodrome](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/5-24-08-official-nyspeed-spring-bbq-dunnville-autodrome/42266/350):
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> Sucks, man. I suppose if this guy did scam you and you were arrested and the charges are going to stick you could sue the guy for scamming you. I imagine this guy will be on the police report and would have to give a real name.

he had a fake id, how are they going to tell if he gives them a real name or not? i guess they can look up names or SSNs and hope to see a drivers license pic, but maybe ‘i don’t have a drivers license or none driver ID card’ is enough to get you out of that aspect, idk, not sure they have his real name for sure

> [@DIY "Racing" chair](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/diy-racing-chair/45367/33):
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> DID scam me\*
> 
> The two guys had to be greedy, they HAD to go back for ANOTHER round. Thats some crazy balls if you ask me.

no they were just really stupid

> [@need 30 people to respond](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-30-people-to-respond/45669/71):
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> Second you left the store with the gun is when all of those charges would apply. Even if he dropped to the floor in your shop, you could have been charged with something similar to kidnapping, like false or unlawful imprisonment. Happens all the time unfortunately, and almost always sticks.

this is why you have two guns, one illegally bought so you can plant it on the guy after you blow him away

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**Author:** ![Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mk4_30r_ban/32/6347_2.png) [@Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mk4_30R_Ban)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2011, 9:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/and-this-is-why-i-hate-the-fucking-cops/260619/58 "2011-09-28T09:50:21Z")

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> [@Cheerleader dies after boob job](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cheerleader-dies-after-boob-job/45677/23):
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> I know what the charges mean and stuff I just dont know what the court sees as real serious and basic shit… Ive been charged with felonies before and have had them tried to disorderly conduct which is a violation not a crime… Ive been charged with a bunch of shit, but never convicted of anything… I know id beat this retarded case in trial but who the fuck wants to go to trial? Its scary even if youve got all the evidence in the world. Hoping theyll just give me another disorderly conduct and a big fine.

well, what were you just charged with? 1st or 2nd degree crimes?

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**Author:** ![PFaux](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pfaux/32/6722_2.png) [@PFaux](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/PFaux)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2011, 9:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/and-this-is-why-i-hate-the-fucking-cops/260619/59 "2011-09-28T09:50:59Z")

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> [@My House](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/my-house/45515/24):
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> 15 minutes later a guy comes in with the SAME out of state license with the SAME EXACT FUCKING CHAIN!!!

> [@Suggest a Media Player](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/suggest-a-media-player/45665/13):
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> Have the guy that I actually DID buy the 1 chain off of’s license and im sure I could get the other guys as Colonie police took him to the station for questioning.

does not compute

oh, they were from out of state, and they were both from the same state.

I thought you were saying they both tried to give you the same exact ID lol, i guess i was thinking they were extra dumb, like me apparently :dunno

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**Author:** ![PFaux](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pfaux/32/6722_2.png) [@PFaux](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/PFaux)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2011, 9:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/and-this-is-why-i-hate-the-fucking-cops/260619/60 "2011-09-28T09:59:47Z")

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> [@Windows Mobile: Rom flash = reformat?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/windows-mobile-rom-flash-reformat/45682/8):
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> learn the laws, obey them or end up in this situation again.
> 
> you shouldn’t be mad at the cops, they were doing their job.
> 
> be mad at the people that made the laws the cops are enforcing.

there is also such a thing as officers discretion

they may have been forced to charge Dave with the mennacing charge if the guy said he wanted to press charges but the other ones (which i can’t remember what they were) maybe they could have let slide.

i mean clearly there is more to the story then what happend on the street, no one is going to chase someone down and detain them because they left a because the detainee left a fake gold chain in your store.

its just not justice and it would be basically impossible to legislate for such nuances

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