# And THIS is why I HATE the fucking cops

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**Created:** [September 27, 2011, 6:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/and-this-is-why-i-hate-the-fucking-cops/260619 "2011-09-27T18:10:04Z")\
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**Author:** ![PFaux](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pfaux/32/6722_2.png) [@PFaux](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/PFaux)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2011, 10:00am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/and-this-is-why-i-hate-the-fucking-cops/260619/61 "2011-09-28T10:00:51Z")

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> [@WTB: Stock E30 wheels](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wtb-stock-e30-wheels/45683/7):
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> fuck, that aint good.

any advertising is good advertising

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**Author:** ![PFaux](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pfaux/32/6722_2.png) [@PFaux](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/PFaux)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2011, 10:05am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/and-this-is-why-i-hate-the-fucking-cops/260619/62 "2011-09-28T10:05:51Z")

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> [@Cars are a disease. Cures?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cars-are-a-disease-cures/45691/28):
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> me the EXACT fucking chain with the SAME out of state CA license.

well was it the same exact license or not?

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**Author:** ![Cossey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Cossey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cossey)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2011, 10:11am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/and-this-is-why-i-hate-the-fucking-cops/260619/63 "2011-09-28T10:11:41Z")

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Now the big issue is your past and the charges you’ve had and even any sort of conviction whether it a violation or not. They can easily convict you on these depending on the jury unfortunately.

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**Author:** ![love4boost](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/love4boost/32/6658_2.png) [@love4boost](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/love4boost)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2011, 10:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/and-this-is-why-i-hate-the-fucking-cops/260619/64 "2011-09-28T10:24:00Z")

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> [@Gone](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gone/45685/25):
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> well was it the same exact license or not?

Different licenses but the same out of state licenses from CA… What are the chances of two guys coming in within 10 minutes of eachother both from CA?

> [@Gone](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gone/45685/26):
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> Now the big issue is your past and the charges you’ve had and even any sort of conviction whether it a violation or not. They can easily convict you on these depending on the jury unfortunately.

Past charges are no where to be seen, I saw it with my own eyes, my sheet is clean.

Plus I just called TWO local stores down the street and asked them if a guy tried to come in there selling a fake gold chain and they said YES and described the guy to me so maybe this case will be easier to beat then I thought… just gotta get the video tape, might have to throw him like $100 or something… Then it becomes Attempted grand larceny and or fraud on the guy.

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**Author:** ![indy440](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b5ac83/32.png) [@indy440](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/indy440)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2011, 10:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/and-this-is-why-i-hate-the-fucking-cops/260619/65 "2011-09-28T10:38:22Z")

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man that sucks. best of luck getting shit taken care of. 3300 bucks is a lot of money.

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**Author:** ![KillerBlackbird](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/killerblackbird/32/6525_2.png) [@KillerBlackbird](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KillerBlackbird)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2011, 1:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/and-this-is-why-i-hate-the-fucking-cops/260619/66 "2011-09-28T13:59:00Z")

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Dave, you need to purchase a backhoe.

Pull trigger.  
Dig hole.  
Profit.

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**Author:** ![sbardy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8edcca/32.png) [@sbardy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sbardy)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2011, 2:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/and-this-is-why-i-hate-the-fucking-cops/260619/67 "2011-09-28T14:38:41Z")

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It’s nuts that we were talking about this the other night… How you cant test 18k white without filing into it… And I was like fuck that I wouldn’t take that shit, and you were like I will.nn

Shit happens. Getting taken for 3300 will save you a lot more money in the future. Keep making money and get the legal shit taken care of.

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**Author:** ![Upstate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/b3f665/32.png) [@Upstate](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Upstate)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2011, 2:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/and-this-is-why-i-hate-the-fucking-cops/260619/68 "2011-09-28T14:55:10Z")

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> [@WTB: mk3 Jetta Lights](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wtb-mk3-jetta-lights/45645/3):
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> Plus I just called TWO local stores down the street and asked them if a guy tried to come in there selling a fake gold chain and they said YES and described the guy to me so maybe this case will be easier to beat then I thought…

Your case has nothing to do with what the perpetrators did though. Your mistake was leaving the store, once you did that you lost all claims of self defense. If we were in Texas it would be a different story, but this is NY. The minute you pulled a weapon on someone first you stepped over that line, especially since the person you pulled it on was unarmed.

Is the shotgun registered to you or is it legally in your possession?

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**Author:** ![HudsonFalcon](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/hudsonfalcon/32/6460_2.png) [@HudsonFalcon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/HudsonFalcon)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2011, 5:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/and-this-is-why-i-hate-the-fucking-cops/260619/69 "2011-09-28T17:10:04Z")

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Regardless of what the law says you did nothing wrong and good for you for defending your business from scum.

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**Author:** ![Allstar\_Graphics](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/allstar_graphics/32/6287_2.png) [@Allstar\_Graphics](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Allstar_Graphics)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2011, 8:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/and-this-is-why-i-hate-the-fucking-cops/260619/70 "2011-09-28T20:07:25Z")

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#1- never invite the man into your life

#2- never point weapon at anything that you are not 100% certain that you want to kill.

good luck man, im sure your probably thinking of a million ways it could have played out.

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**Author:** ![aero93](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a4c791/32.png) [@aero93](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/aero93)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2011, 8:33pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/and-this-is-why-i-hate-the-fucking-cops/260619/71 "2011-09-28T20:33:05Z")

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sucks to hear man i hope most the charges get dropped, people like this suck

on another note what you could have done is

when inspecting the chain and determining that you had to grind into it, before offering up 3300 why not grind into it and if the chain is fake give the guy 10 bucks and the chain back and say best of luck, if not and it proves to be real buy it for said 3300.

i think that would have been safer from a buyers perspective

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**Author:** ![Singh1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ba8739/32.png) [@Singh1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Singh1)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2011, 8:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/and-this-is-why-i-hate-the-fucking-cops/260619/72 "2011-09-28T20:54:42Z")

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Yo dave that sucks ALOT dude, going outside with the gun is the worse thing u coulda done short of shooting him outside…

that fuckin blows

you should of thrown him on the ground in the store and knocked him out

> [@poopin at work](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/poopin-at-work/45671/49):
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> #1- never invite the man into your life
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> #2- never point weapon at anything that you are not 100% certain that you want to kill.
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> good luck man, im sure your probably thinking of a million ways it could have played out.

+1 on #2

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**Author:** ![v8lonoma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/45deac/32.png) [@v8lonoma](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/v8lonoma)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2011, 9:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/and-this-is-why-i-hate-the-fucking-cops/260619/73 "2011-09-28T21:10:03Z")

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you hate the cops because they arrested you for chasing a guy down central ave with a loaded shot gun? :lol

its gun owners like you that feed the anti gun people IMO. :Idiots

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**Author:** ![love4boost](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/love4boost/32/6658_2.png) [@love4boost](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/love4boost)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2011, 6:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/and-this-is-why-i-hate-the-fucking-cops/260619/74 "2011-09-29T06:32:48Z")

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> [@FS:PS2 with 2 contollers with games and memory card](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-ps2-with-2-contollers-with-games-and-memory-card/45561/11):
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> you hate the cops because they arrested you for chasing a guy down central ave with a loaded shot gun? :lol
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> its gun owners like you that feed the anti gun people IMO. :Idiots

Your are a moron man, $3,300 is probably all you have to your name and your going to tell me you wouldnt chase after someone to reclaim every last dollar that was just stolen from you?? I guess I know who the fuck im robbing…

IT DIDNT HAPPEN TO YOU SO DONT TELL ME WHATS RIGHT AND WRONG BECUASE YOU PROBABLY WOULD HAVE DONE THE SAME FUCKING THING.

I admit I should have dropped the gun when I left the store and beat the dude down with my hands but I didnt…

IMO this is the same scenerio as someone breaking into your house trying to rob you, you shoot them and YOU get charged. Theres no fucking justice, its fucking bullshit and I continue to say FUCK THE COPS… More the Detectives then the cops as the cops told me they probably would have done the same thing.

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**Author:** ![Boost\_Creep](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boost_creep/32/6366_2.png) [@Boost\_Creep](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Boost_Creep)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2011, 6:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/and-this-is-why-i-hate-the-fucking-cops/260619/75 "2011-09-29T06:49:35Z")

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That’s why you shoot them while they are still in your house.

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**Author:** ![Upstate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/b3f665/32.png) [@Upstate](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Upstate)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2011, 7:04am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/and-this-is-why-i-hate-the-fucking-cops/260619/76 "2011-09-29T07:04:57Z")

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> [@Buffalo Police Safety Alert](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buffalo-police-safety-alert/45696/81):
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> IMO this is the same scenerio as someone breaking into your house trying to rob you, you shoot them and YOU get charged.

They’re not even close to the same scenario. There’s a presumption that someone entering your house uninvited poses a risk to you. You have a store that you welcome people into. Unless you can tie guy #2 to guy #1, and you need to do better than they both had licenses from the same state and were selling similar items, this is a very serious situation.

Your best hope right now is that guy #2 bails and isn’t able to testify against you. Best of luck beating it, because it’s a shitty situation, but I think you need to start taking this a little more seriously. A lot will depend on your record on the testimony of the guy you ran down, so if he’s a no-show that’s a big help to you.

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**Author:** ![love4boost](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/love4boost/32/6658_2.png) [@love4boost](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/love4boost)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2011, 7:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/and-this-is-why-i-hate-the-fucking-cops/260619/77 "2011-09-29T07:50:28Z")

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> [@Need XP disk](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-xp-disk/45673/8):
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> They’re not even close to the same scenario. There’s a presumption that someone entering your house uninvited poses a risk to you. You have a store that you welcome people into. Unless you can tie guy #2 to guy #1, and you need to do better than they both had licenses from the same state and were selling similar items, this is a very serious situation.
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> Your best hope right now is that guy #2 bails and isn’t able to testify against you. Best of luck beating it, because it’s a shitty situation, but I think you need to start taking this a little more seriously. A lot will depend on your record on the testimony of the guy you ran down, so if he’s a no-show that’s a big help to you.

I will never see guy number too again in my life gaurenteed lol… He isnt coming back upstate to testify lol and thats only if the case goes to trial… Im trying to get off with a disorderly conduct which is a violation not a crime and skip the trial bullshit. Trial is a gamble no matter how much evidence you have and im def not willing to go that distance for a coin flip outcome.

I dont think I mentioned this erither, but I had a witness in my store the entire time, some kid trying to sell a $20 cell phone. He agreed to go to court if nessisary AGAINST the cops threatening him to testify AGAINST me even though he thought I was innocent and did the right thing… another reason cops are peices of shit.

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**Author:** ![Boost\_Creep](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boost_creep/32/6366_2.png) [@Boost\_Creep](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Boost_Creep)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2011, 8:02am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/and-this-is-why-i-hate-the-fucking-cops/260619/78 "2011-09-29T08:02:47Z")

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Running around town of Colonie with a shotgun plead down to disorderly conduct?

eep.

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**Author:** ![love4boost](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/love4boost/32/6658_2.png) [@love4boost](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/love4boost)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2011, 8:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/and-this-is-why-i-hate-the-fucking-cops/260619/79 "2011-09-29T08:28:41Z")

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> [@Speed Trap](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/speed-trap/45712/4):
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> Running around town of Colonie with a shotgun plead down to disorderly conduct?
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> eep.

Well I got running down route 146 with a shotgun plead down to disorderly conduct, why not Colonie? lolol

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**Author:** ![REDWGN](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/redwgn/32/6695_2.png) [@REDWGN](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/REDWGN)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2011, 8:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/and-this-is-why-i-hate-the-fucking-cops/260619/80 "2011-09-29T08:31:46Z")

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STOP RUNNING AROUND WITH SHOTGUNS! lol

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