# Angryhero vs STI **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [September 16, 2008, 5:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/angryhero-vs-sti/55044 "2008-09-16T17:16:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![layzie](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/layzie/32/7599_2.png) [@layzie](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/layzie)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2008, 10:06am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/angryhero-vs-sti/55044/21 "2008-09-19T10:06:12Z")
> [@Slopoke](#): > > Sti arent that damn fast, i remember choko pulling a blue sti with a chubby driver with sunglasses on in his sunfire gt 🤣 [TRUE STORY] i also remember pulling a bus on his tbss too haha ---
**Author:** ![Slopoke](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/slopoke/32/7248_2.png) [@Slopoke](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Slopoke)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2008, 10:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/angryhero-vs-sti/55044/22 "2008-09-19T10:10:40Z")
what kev? I said jeremi pulled an sti in his sunfire… Im guessing your saying you pulled the tbss in you sti/a4? ---
**Author:** ![Harvey](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/harvey/32/5069_2.png) [@Harvey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Harvey)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2008, 10:12am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/angryhero-vs-sti/55044/23 "2008-09-19T10:12:42Z")
> [@DeusExMachina](#): > > You’re dumb. Go drive 200mph into a wall. > > I never said having .5L made you invincible. You’re a shitty engineer. Its obvious two cars with the same turbo, the one with more displacement is going to make more power. I don’t care what bolt ons come into the room, either. It takes a decently larger turbo with bolt-ons, on a EJ20, to make stock STi power. :lolham: ---
**Author:** ![layzie](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/layzie/32/7599_2.png) [@layzie](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/layzie)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2008, 10:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/angryhero-vs-sti/55044/24 "2008-09-19T10:19:43Z")
> [@Slopoke](#): > > what kev? > > I said jeremi pulled an sti in his sunfire… Im guessing your saying you pulled the tbss in you sti/a4? i know what im saying is im sure his tbss is faster then the his old sunfire and i pulled the tbss hard in the sti… lol at the a4, it has a hard time getting out of its own way ---
**Author:** ![Slopoke](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/slopoke/32/7248_2.png) [@Slopoke](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Slopoke)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2008, 10:35am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/angryhero-vs-sti/55044/25 "2008-09-19T10:35:17Z")
No sunfire would have pulled busses on tbss, It was good for low 13’s ---
**Author:** ![Bacon](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bacon/32/7230_2.png) [@Bacon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Bacon)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2008, 10:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/angryhero-vs-sti/55044/26 "2008-09-19T10:43:19Z")
Sunfire was nutttttttttzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. ---
**Author:** ![newman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/newman/32/7569_2.png) [@newman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/newman)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2008, 10:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/angryhero-vs-sti/55044/27 "2008-09-19T10:53:34Z")
> [@DeusExMachina](#): > > You’re dumb. Go drive 200mph into a wall. > > I never said having .5L made you invincible. You’re a shitty engineer. Its obvious two cars with the same turbo, the one with more displacement is going to make more power. I don’t care what bolt ons come into the room, either. It takes a decently larger turbo with bolt-ons, on a EJ20, to make stock STi power. HOLY CRAP. wrx is tuned for 19psi, stock sti is 14.7. Internet racing says that’s 43 HP. Then add the fact that it has an aftermarket tune AND an FMIC, so probably (definitely) has more timing thrown at it and it’s entirely possible. Also in a 2 gear race, the gearing can have a lot to do with it… ---
**Author:** ![Slopoke](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/slopoke/32/7248_2.png) [@Slopoke](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Slopoke)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2008, 10:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/angryhero-vs-sti/55044/28 "2008-09-19T10:59:49Z")
does anyone on the board have a stock STI? Brent just get a vid and they will shut right up… ---
**Author:** ![DeusExMachina](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/deusexmachina/32/5036_2.png) [@DeusExMachina](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/DeusExMachina)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2008, 11:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/angryhero-vs-sti/55044/29 "2008-09-19T11:34:07Z")
> [@newman](#): > > HOLY CRAP. > > wrx is tuned for 19psi, stock sti is 14.7. Internet racing says that’s 43 HP. Then add the fact that it has an aftermarket tune AND an FMIC, so probably (definitely) has more timing thrown at it and it’s entirely possible. Also in a 2 gear race, the gearing can have a lot to do with it… On a Mustang dyno at KTR Performance, a stock 2.0L WRX makes 155whp. On the same dyno, a stock STi makes ~230whp. Draw your own conclusions. ---
**Author:** ![Deathproof](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dec6dc/32.png) [@Deathproof](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Deathproof)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2008, 11:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/angryhero-vs-sti/55044/30 "2008-09-19T11:57:40Z")
> [@DeusExMachina](#): > > On a Mustang dyno at KTR Performance, a stock 2.0L WRX makes 155whp. On the same dyno, a stock STi makes ~230whp. > > Draw your own conclusions. dude, GIVE UP. It’s possible, downright probable that the WRX makes more power. Your only argument could be the .5l of displacement, that’s the only advantage the STI has. ---
**Author:** ![chino](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/bcef8e/32.png) [@chino](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/chino)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2008, 12:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/angryhero-vs-sti/55044/31 "2008-09-19T12:25:49Z")
> [@newman](#): > > HOLY CRAP. > > wrx is tuned for 19psi, stock sti is 14.7. Internet racing says that’s 43 HP. Then add the fact that it has an aftermarket tune AND an FMIC, so probably (definitely) has more timing thrown at it and it’s entirely possible. Also in a 2 gear race, the gearing can have a lot to do with it… also driver could suck @ driving ---
**Author:** ![DeusExMachina](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/deusexmachina/32/5036_2.png) [@DeusExMachina](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/DeusExMachina)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2008, 12:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/angryhero-vs-sti/55044/32 "2008-09-19T12:32:41Z")
> [@deathproof001](#): > > dude, GIVE UP. > > It’s possible, downright probable that the WRX makes more power. > > Your only argument could be the .5l of displacement, that’s the only advantage the STI has. Its not probable at all, and only possible if the STi is damaged in some way. Or the driver isn’t racing. 125% the displacement of the WRX is a big advantage. Along with shorter gears. This is also assuming a bone stock STi, one of which I have never seen except at the dealership or recently purchased. In summation, vids/slips or it didn’t happen. ---
**Author:** ![newman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/newman/32/7569_2.png) [@newman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/newman)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2008, 12:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/angryhero-vs-sti/55044/33 "2008-09-19T12:32:44Z")
> [@chino](#): > > also driver could suck @ driving sure, it’s a distinct possibility, but that other dude was saying it was IMPOSSIBLE that OPs car was faster. ---
**Author:** ![DeusExMachina](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/deusexmachina/32/5036_2.png) [@DeusExMachina](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/DeusExMachina)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2008, 12:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/angryhero-vs-sti/55044/34 "2008-09-19T12:36:08Z")
> [@newman](#): > > sure, it’s a distinct possibility, but that other dude was saying it was IMPOSSIBLE that OPs car was faster. If I’m the dude, I didn’t say IMPOSSIBLE especially with such emphasis. Infact, I said its possible that the car was faster due to extraneous circumstances. However, in a legit race or other measurement, it is very unlikely that the OP’s car makes comparable power to a stock STi. ---
**Author:** ![Slopoke](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/slopoke/32/7248_2.png) [@Slopoke](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Slopoke)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2008, 12:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/angryhero-vs-sti/55044/35 "2008-09-19T12:38:26Z")
> [@DeusExMachina](#): > > On a Mustang dyno at KTR Performance, a stock 2.0L WRX makes 155whp. On the same dyno, a stock STi makes ~230whp. > > Draw your own conclusions. And brent is running 5 lbs/boost MORE than a stock STI with a tune with bolt-ons its very possible to be at the same OR HIGHER power level… You compared a stock sti to a stock wrx with a wrx turbo at stock boost! Not even close to what brents car is… ---
**Author:** ![Justin](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/justin/32/7459_2.png) [@Justin](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Justin)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2008, 12:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/angryhero-vs-sti/55044/36 "2008-09-19T12:52:43Z")
> [@DeusExMachina](#): > > On a Mustang dyno at KTR Performance, a stock 2.0L WRX makes 155whp. On the same dyno, a stock STi makes ~230whp. > > Draw your own conclusions. This logic is retarded. His car is NOT stock nor is the STi. So lets assume all the STi had was an exhaust (which is very likely)… Brent’s car has an STi turbo, STi injectors, aftermarket up-pipe, aftermarket down-pipe, FMIC, Full exhaust, Perrin intake, TurboXs standalone, and all the little things to go with it, and a tune by Mike for 19psi. And I’m pretty sure a WRX is lighter than an STi. There is no reason his car shouldn’t beat a stock STi. ---
**Author:** ![chino](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/bcef8e/32.png) [@chino](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/chino)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2008, 1:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/angryhero-vs-sti/55044/37 "2008-09-19T13:09:53Z")
only solution here is rematch, winner gets to behead the loser. ---
**Author:** ![sureshot007](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sureshot007/32/7345_2.png) [@sureshot007](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sureshot007)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2008, 1:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/angryhero-vs-sti/55044/38 "2008-09-19T13:11:44Z")
Well, you are a bone stock sti - why don’t you run him? ---
**Author:** ![chino](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/bcef8e/32.png) [@chino](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/chino)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2008, 1:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/angryhero-vs-sti/55044/39 "2008-09-19T13:14:13Z")
i’m less than bone stock, i’m a 2008 sti with a shit factory tune 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![DeusExMachina](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/deusexmachina/32/5036_2.png) [@DeusExMachina](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/DeusExMachina)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2008, 1:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/angryhero-vs-sti/55044/40 "2008-09-19T13:14:51Z")
> [@Slopoke](#): > > And brent is running 5 lbs/boost MORE than a stock STI with a tune with bolt-ons its very possible to be at the same OR HIGHER power level… You compared a stock sti to a stock wrx with a wrx turbo at stock boost! Not even close to what brents car is… Yes, I did that for comparison that it was over 80 awhp in a gap between a stock WRX and a stock STi. You’re not going to get 80 AWHP from bolt ons, no matter the car. Sorry. > [@01AudiS4](#): > > This logic is retarded. His car is NOT stock nor is the STi. So lets assume all the STi had was an exhaust (which is very likely)… Brent’s car has an STi turbo, STi injectors, aftermarket up-pipe, aftermarket down-pipe, FMIC, Full exhaust, Perrin intake, TurboXs standalone, and all the little things to go with it, and a tune by Mike for 19psi. And I’m pretty sure a WRX is lighter than an STi. There is no reason his car shouldn’t beat a stock STi. And your ricer maths is awesome! He has +8 points and the STi has 0 points, so obviously the WRX is faster. Oh wait but you listed individual exhaust pieces, then said full exhaust…hmm we’re going to have to do a recount. The WRX is very slightly lighter, depending on year on both counts. Nothing that a pre-game dump wouldn’t change. Unfortunately I don’t have an STi so I can’t prove it. The op should get his car dyno’d, or take it to a track instead of doing ricer fly-bys on the street. :shrug: [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/angryhero-vs-sti/55044.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/angryhero-vs-sti/55044.md?page=3)