# ANOTHER ARGUMENT IN A NON-BATTLEFIELD THREAD. **URL:** \ **Category:** Shift518 Off Topic\ **Created:** [March 13, 2008, 12:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-argument-in-a-non-battlefield-thread/236040 "2008-03-13T12:11:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![psi2high](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/psi2high/32/6320_2.png) [@psi2high](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/psi2high)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2008, 3:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-argument-in-a-non-battlefield-thread/236040/41 "2008-03-13T15:39:07Z")
well byrons laid down more and he ran high 11’s at 120…and a tpi trans am is nothing to be afraid of nor is a 13 second k20 swapped civic spraying at that :headbang ---
**Author:** ![Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mk4_30r_ban/32/6347_2.png) [@Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mk4_30R_Ban)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2008, 3:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-argument-in-a-non-battlefield-thread/236040/42 "2008-03-13T15:40:24Z")
whatever, dont try to play me for a fool though, im not new to this game. i can tell you this though, an evo i was involved with thats running an FP Green, trapped 118 on pump gas, no launch(stock 30k mile clutch) Lucas English said his car with a launch would have seen 122or so, it made 431hp/403tq. on with a JESTR tune, but thats all relevant, drive is alot, and i didnt say i doubted your driving, all i said the other night was in response to you saying the wagon would run a 14flat, and i said driver has alot to do with it and you blew it up to what it is by bashing me on a forum, rather than just side barring me while there and talking to me. you took the adolescent way of handling it rather than being the adult you are. i didnt come on here calling you out about anything. ---
**Author:** ![Auto0utcast](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/auto0utcast/32/6281_2.png) [@Auto0utcast](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Auto0utcast)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2008, 3:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-argument-in-a-non-battlefield-thread/236040/43 "2008-03-13T15:40:45Z")
> [@psi2high](#): > > well byrons laid down more and he ran high 11’s at 120…and a tpi trans am is nothing to be afraid of nor is a 13 second k20 swapped civic spraying at that :headbang on the dyno i was on, byrons car made 2 more hp and 5 less tq than my car did… and he was running 25psi with water injection… i was running 22.5psi on straight 93 pump…PLUS he has a front mount…im still on the stock topmount. ---
**Author:** ![Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mk4_30r_ban/32/6347_2.png) [@Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mk4_30R_Ban)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2008, 3:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-argument-in-a-non-battlefield-thread/236040/44 "2008-03-13T15:42:30Z")
and im a 56trim 71mm turbo with a stock sidemount, and i have people trying to race me, with 15psi… give me a break. ---
**Author:** ![Auto0utcast](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/auto0utcast/32/6281_2.png) [@Auto0utcast](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Auto0utcast)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2008, 3:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-argument-in-a-non-battlefield-thread/236040/45 "2008-03-13T15:44:34Z")
> [@Mk4 30R](#): > > whatever, dont try to play me for a fool though, im not new to this game. i can tell you this though, an evo i was involved with thats running an FP Green, trapped 118 on pump gas, no launch(stock 30k mile clutch) Lucas English said his car with a launch would have seen 122or so, it made 431hp/403tq. on with a JESTR tune, but thats all relevant, drive is alot, and i didnt say i doubted your driving, all i said the other night was in response to you saying the wagon would run a 14flat, and i said driver has alot to do with it and you blew it up to what it is by bashing me on a forum, rather than just side barring me while there and talking to me. you took the adolescent way of handling it rather than being the adult you are. i didnt come on here calling you out about anything. you CANNOT compare an evo green to a STI green. the spool characteristics are TOTALLY different being as the evo manifold dumps straight into the snail whereas the sti has to go through 3 feet of fucking header before it even reaches the turbo. the 4g63 evo is definitely more suited to drag with the 5spd gearbox and rev happy 2.0litre. fact of the matter is that u are comparing apples to oranges. oh and JESTR tuned my car previously as well. Mr Estrada is a good man to be around and good at what he does, but to be honest im more impressed with seth @ moon performance. by far the best tuner ive met/talked to ---
**Author:** ![K20power](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/41988e/32.png) [@K20power](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/K20power)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2008, 3:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-argument-in-a-non-battlefield-thread/236040/46 "2008-03-13T15:46:26Z")
> [@psi2high](#): > > well byrons laid down more and he ran high 11’s at 120…and a tpi trans am is nothing to be afraid of nor is a 13 second k20 swapped civic spraying at that :headbang don’t you worry about my trans am…haven’t said a word about it so NO ONE knows anything about it besides what was done when i built it…and as for my civic, i’ve asked around and as for my set-up this year it has been speculated it should run 11’s at a trap of 120 or so on slicks :ponder :stfu keep to your civic Si ---
**Author:** ![plaf713](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/439d5e/32.png) [@plaf713](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/plaf713)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2008, 3:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-argument-in-a-non-battlefield-thread/236040/47 "2008-03-13T15:46:38Z")
things are getting heated :lol ---
**Author:** ![Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mk4_30r_ban/32/6347_2.png) [@Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mk4_30R_Ban)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2008, 3:57pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-argument-in-a-non-battlefield-thread/236040/48 "2008-03-13T15:57:48Z")
> [@EJ257FTW](#): > > you CANNOT compare an evo green to a STI green. the spool characteristics are TOTALLY different being as the evo manifold dumps straight into the snail whereas the sti has to go through 3 feet of fucking header before it even reaches the turbo. the 4g63 evo is definitely more suited to drag with the 5spd gearbox and rev happy 2.0litre. fact of the matter is that u are comparing apples to oranges. > > oh and JESTR tuned my car previously as well. Mr Estrada is a good man to be around and good at what he does, but to be honest im more impressed with seth @ moon performance. by far the best tuner ive met/talked to thats very true, the evo spools fast, we saw 32psi, 0 counts of knock. and it made that 32psi around 3800rpm… the 431whp was made on 93/100%meth at 26psi… i know nothing of moon performance, never heard of them. and the STI has the worst turbo setup ive ever seen… ---
**Author:** ![psi2high](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/psi2high/32/6320_2.png) [@psi2high](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/psi2high)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2008, 3:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-argument-in-a-non-battlefield-thread/236040/49 "2008-03-13T15:58:00Z")
my civics speculated to run some where in the 17’s…hence why its a daily driver with plates that say vtec ftl…but untill you run 11’s with your car i wouldnt speculate much since there are multiple honda’s that have run faster on slicks with less money into them. ---
**Author:** ![Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mk4_30r_ban/32/6347_2.png) [@Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mk4_30R_Ban)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2008, 4:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-argument-in-a-non-battlefield-thread/236040/50 "2008-03-13T16:00:12Z")
> [@psi2high](#): > > my civics speculated to run some where in the 17’s…hence why its a daily driver with plates that say vtec ftl…but untill you run 11’s with your car i wouldnt speculate much since there are multiple honda’s that have run faster on slicks with less money into them. very true… my celica is a screamer, im gonna guess, 18.4@82mph ---
**Author:** ![Auto0utcast](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/auto0utcast/32/6281_2.png) [@Auto0utcast](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Auto0utcast)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2008, 4:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-argument-in-a-non-battlefield-thread/236040/51 "2008-03-13T16:02:14Z")
im seeing 21-22psi by 4-4100… has a nasty top end though. dyno plot for reference: ![http://a73.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/106/l_3b5f19fe69100da6638ee49a8ce50e98.jpg](http://a73.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/106/l_3b5f19fe69100da6638ee49a8ce50e98.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![plaf713](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/439d5e/32.png) [@plaf713](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/plaf713)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2008, 4:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-argument-in-a-non-battlefield-thread/236040/52 "2008-03-13T16:02:47Z")
82 mph is a high trap for an 18.4 :lol ---
**Author:** ![Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mk4_30r_ban/32/6347_2.png) [@Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mk4_30R_Ban)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2008, 4:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-argument-in-a-non-battlefield-thread/236040/53 "2008-03-13T16:07:09Z")
tail wind. ---
**Author:** ![SSmokinn\_SS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@SSmokinn\_SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SSmokinn_SS)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2008, 4:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-argument-in-a-non-battlefield-thread/236040/54 "2008-03-13T16:07:16Z")
> [@Mk4 30R](#): > > and im a 56trim 71mm turbo with a stock sidemount, and i have people trying to race me, with 15psi… give me a break. hey I’ll run ya whenever you want…15psi vs. 15psi…we’ll settle it. ---
**Author:** ![K20power](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/41988e/32.png) [@K20power](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/K20power)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2008, 4:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-argument-in-a-non-battlefield-thread/236040/55 "2008-03-13T16:08:04Z")
> [@Boostin Camaro](#): > > hey I’ll run ya whenever you want…15psi vs. 15psi…we’ll settle it. br0, he doesn’t race on the street :nono ---
**Author:** ![Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mk4_30r_ban/32/6347_2.png) [@Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mk4_30R_Ban)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2008, 4:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-argument-in-a-non-battlefield-thread/236040/56 "2008-03-13T16:09:30Z")
> [@Boostin Camaro](#): > > hey I’ll run ya whenever you want…15psi vs. 15psi…we’ll settle it. with 2,000 CC more displacement, sure thing. i have nothing to prove, so i dont know why people keep pushing the fact ---
**Author:** ![Hooked\_on\_240](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Hooked\_on\_240](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Hooked_on_240)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2008, 4:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-argument-in-a-non-battlefield-thread/236040/57 "2008-03-13T16:10:06Z")
nice “sightings” thread ---
**Author:** ![plaf713](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/439d5e/32.png) [@plaf713](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/plaf713)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2008, 4:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-argument-in-a-non-battlefield-thread/236040/58 "2008-03-13T16:11:09Z")
> [@Boostin Camaro](#): > > hey I’ll run ya whenever you want…15psi vs. 15psi…we’ll settle it. ill run ya 0psi vs 15 psi, if i make it out there tonight ---
**Author:** ![Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mk4_30r_ban/32/6347_2.png) [@Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mk4_30R_Ban)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2008, 4:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-argument-in-a-non-battlefield-thread/236040/59 "2008-03-13T16:12:02Z")
> [@Hooked on 240](#): > > nice “sightings” thread isnt it though? ---
**Author:** ![Auto0utcast](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/auto0utcast/32/6281_2.png) [@Auto0utcast](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Auto0utcast)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2008, 4:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-argument-in-a-non-battlefield-thread/236040/60 "2008-03-13T16:17:20Z")
> [@plaf713](#): > > ill run ya 0psi vs 15 psi, if i make it out there tonight ooh ooh can i join? :lol [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-argument-in-a-non-battlefield-thread/236040.md?page=2) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-argument-in-a-non-battlefield-thread/236040.md?page=4)