# Another crash in the 240 scene...

**URL:** https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-crash-in-the-240-scene/118827
**Category:** SON240sx Automotive
**Created:** [September 28, 2008, 9:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-crash-in-the-240-scene/118827 "2008-09-28T21:36:58Z")
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### Author: ![duckJAI](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/duckjai/32/5553_2.png) [@duckJAI](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/duckJAI)
#### Post date: [September 30, 2008, 6:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-crash-in-the-240-scene/118827/34 "2008-09-30T06:34:51Z")

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> [@Fast cam swapts in FWD GMs](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fast-cam-swapts-in-fwd-gms/18540/5):
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> IMO, stiffer suspension means carrying more momentum, since less energy is lost in saggy suspension and load transfer. For example, for the frequent drifters on Nelson at shannonville, corner 3 has a slight altitude drop, so when drivers enter sideways i find that with softer suspension you can carry in higher entry speed cause the softer suspension saps alot of energy from the transfer of the load and the car slows down at higher angle whereas; if a car with coils entered at the same speed and angle it would just slide off the track. Imagine you were on coils and you reacted every bit the same way in this incident. IMO your car would have no suspension travel to dampen, carry greater speed and it would just hit the cracks and holes in the road like a brick as opposed to having the suspension dampen and take away some of the kinetic energy and the impact could have flipped the car as opposed to just rolling over. But then again its just theory, the more experienced guys can expand on this point or criticize it.

^^ Exactly

Softer suspension essentially will give you more grip, resulting in not flying off the track sideways and maintaining the high speed you entered in.

softer suspension = more grip  
stiffer = less grip

A lot of drifters I know run their rear coils full stiff, but for me, however, I actually prefer to run them almost FULL soft. I like having the grip when I need it and I’m sure other drivers can attest to that as well.

Another MAJOR factor in keeping speed while being sideways are tires, and for that reason alone is why I drift on brand new tires that I know have the consistency that suits my style. In the beginning I’ve drifted on used tires behind tire shops like everyone else, but none of them would hold grip while going sideways at a fast speed. I would always spin out or slide right off the track like it were Ice. It wouldn’t be driver error, it’s just the speed surpasses the limits of the tire and once that happens, there is no going back.

I rather have the grip there then not there, because there are always ways to break traction but there are 0 ways to gain traction when you have none left.

PS: I’m glad XSNRGE and you’re dad came out alright!!

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