# Another Credit Card Scam

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-credit-card-scam/5212>\
**Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\
**Created:** [December 2, 2005, 2:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-credit-card-scam/5212 "2005-12-02T14:41:10Z")\
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**Author:** ![Twizted](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/twizted/32/7206_2.png) [@Twizted](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Twizted)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2005, 2:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-credit-card-scam/5212/1 "2005-12-02T14:41:10Z")

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got this in my e-mail today…

> \>Hi All,  
> \>  
> \>WARNING…New Credit Card Scam. It was also on the TV news.  
> \>  
> \>Note, the callers do not ask for your card number; they already have it.  
> \>This information is worth reading. By understanding how the VISA &  
> \>MasterCard Telephone Credit! Card Scam works, you’ll be better prepared to  
> \>protect yourself.  
> \>  
> \>My husband was called on Wednesday from “VISA”, and I was called on  
> \>Thursday from “MasterCard”.  
> \>  
> \>The scam works like this:  
> \>  
> \>Person calling says, “This is (name), and I’m calling from the Security and  
> \>Fraud Department at VISA. My Badge number is 12460 Your card has been  
> \>flagged for an unusual purchase pattern, and I’m calling to verify. This  
> \>would be on your VISA card which was issued by (name of bank).  
> \>  
> \>Did you purchase an Anti-Telemarketing Device for $497.99 from a Marketing  
> \>company based in Arizona?” When you say “No”, the caller continues with,  
> \>  
> \>“Then we will be issuing a credit to your account. This is a company we  
> \>have been watching and the charges range from $297 to $497, just under the  
> \>$500 purchase pattern that flags most cards. Before your next statement,  
> \>the credit will be sent to (gives you your address), is that correct?”  
> \>  
> \>You say “yes”. The caller continues - “I will be starting a Fraud  
> \>investigation. If you have any questions, you should call the 1- 800 number  
> \>listed on the back of your card (1-800-VISA) and ask for Security.  
> \>  
> \>You will need to refer to this Control Number. The caller then gives you a  
> \>6 digit number. “Do you need me to read it again?”  
> \>  
> \>Here’s the IMPORTANT part on how the scam works. The caller then says, “I  
> \>need to verify you are in possession of your card”. He’ll ask you to"turn  
> \>your card over and look for some numbers”.  
> \>  
> \>There are 7 numbers; the first 4 are part of your card number, the next 3  
> \>are the security Numbers’ that verify you are the possessor of the card.  
> \>  
> \>These are the numbers you sometimes use to make Internet purchases to prove  
> \>you have the card. The caller will ask you to read the 3 numbers to him.  
> \>After you tell the caller the 3 numbers, he’ll say, “That is correct, I  
> \>just needed to verify that the card has not been lost or stolen, and that  
> \>you still have your card.  
> \>  
> \>Do you have any other questions?” After you say No, the caller then thanks  
> \>you and states, “Don’t hesitate to call back if you do”, and hangs up.  
> \>  
> \>You actually say very little, and they never ask for or tell you the Card  
> \>number. But after we were called on Wednesday, we called back within 20  
> \>minutes to ask a question. Are we ! glad we did!  
> \>  
> \>The REAL VISA Security Department told us it was a scam and in the last  
> \>15 minutes a new purchase of $497.99 was charged to our card.  
> \>  
> \>Long story made short - we made a real fraud report and closed the VISA  
> \>account. VISA is reissuing us a new number. What the scammers want is the  
> \>3-digit PIN number on the back of the card. Don’t give it to them. Instead,  
> \>tell them you’ll call VISA or Master card directly for verification of  
> \>their conversation.  
> \>  
> \>The real VISA told us that they will never ask for anything on the card as  
> \>they already know the information since they issued the card! If you give  
> \>the scammers your 3 Digit PIN Number, you think you’re receiving a credit.  
> \>However, by the time you get your statement you’ll see charges for  
> \>purchases you didn’t make, and by then it’s almost to late and/or more  
> \>difficult to actually file a fraud report.  
> \>  
> \>What makes this more remarkable is that on Thursday, I got a call from a  
> \>“Jason Richardson of MasterCard” with a word-for-word repeat of the VISA  
> \>scam. This time I didn’t let him finish. I hung up! We filed a police  
> \>report, as instructed by VISA. The police said they are taking several of  
> \>these reports daily! They also urged us to tell everybody we know that this  
> \>scam is happening.  
> \>  
> \>Please pass this on to all your family and friends.  
> \>  
> \>By informing each other, we protect each other

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**Author:** ![Nikuk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nikuk/32/7254_2.png) [@Nikuk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nikuk)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2005, 2:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-credit-card-scam/5212/2 "2005-12-02T14:44:31Z")

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lol

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**Author:** ![OfficerK](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/4da419/32.png) [@OfficerK](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/OfficerK)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2005, 2:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-credit-card-scam/5212/3 "2005-12-02T14:56:54Z")

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Yeah I’d never give that to anyone. The banks/CC companies don’t even know that number. I was trying to make a purchase online with one of my cards and the CCV numbers were rubbed off, she explained that no one really knows those numbers except for the card holder.

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**Author:** ![Nikuk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nikuk/32/7254_2.png) [@Nikuk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nikuk)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2005, 3:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-credit-card-scam/5212/4 "2005-12-02T15:02:28Z")

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^ Visa does have them logged - if You enter it incorrectly, it will void the transaction. Try it next time You purchase something online.

I just sincerely hope that no one would be that dumb nowadays… there are SO MANY fricking ways to avoid these things now.

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**Author:** ![Rx3](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rx3/32/7194_2.png) [@Rx3](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Rx3)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2005, 3:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-credit-card-scam/5212/5 "2005-12-02T15:12:17Z")

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People are so gullible. :roll:

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**Author:** ![AlbinoMonkeyRat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/bb73d2/32.png) [@AlbinoMonkeyRat](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/AlbinoMonkeyRat)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2005, 5:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-credit-card-scam/5212/6 "2005-12-02T17:16:41Z")

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aren’t people’s spending habits messed up this time of year anyway? Why would $497 be flagged when $500+ is the flagging amount? Do people really answer the phone for credit card companies anymore?

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**Author:** ![tour](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f07891/32.png) [@tour](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tour)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2005, 5:33pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-credit-card-scam/5212/7 "2005-12-02T17:33:59Z")

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You have to remember that there are alot of older people with credit cards that would fall for this in a heart beat.

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**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2005, 6:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-credit-card-scam/5212/8 "2005-12-02T18:28:22Z")

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if it sounds legit then for most people, myself included most likely, would def bite the hook. its well planned but i hope these guys get taken down. The rest of us work hard for wat we have, why should these punks get shit for free

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**Author:** ![Juan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a698b9/32.png) [@Juan](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Juan)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2005, 6:33pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-credit-card-scam/5212/9 "2005-12-02T18:33:43Z")

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rofl

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**Author:** ![ly555is](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3bc359/32.png) [@ly555is](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ly555is)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2005, 7:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-credit-card-scam/5212/10 "2005-12-02T19:12:22Z")

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thanks for posting that. it would sound convincing to me, and i’m sure to a lot of other people on here, whether they want to admit it or not.
