# Another garage build thread **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [July 16, 2012, 12:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-garage-build-thread/224619 "2012-07-16T12:27:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![slo\_ride](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/49beb7/32.png) [@slo\_ride](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/slo_ride)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2012, 11:27am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-garage-build-thread/224619/101 "2012-07-24T11:27:02Z")
> [@1QIKZ](#): > > It has been my experience that the suburban building departments will not issue a permit without plans (drawn to their liking) with the signed stamp of a NYS licensed engineer or architect. This does not prove the structure is aesthetic, functional, economically sound, or any derivation thereof. It is simply to release, or lessen the burden of liability on the town and it’s building department in the event of some form of failure. I have also had building inspectors change previously approved prints, under construction, because there was something they missed in their initial review of the prints. I am not saying your building inspector has no knowledge of construction, as many have more than you may know, but I find it unusual (but not unheard of) that he would review and approve a building permit based on his “OK” of the provided documentation. > > I will only mention the “glue” issue this one last time. With the walls already framed and standing he was asking of a way to strengthen the walls prior to proceeding. Barring any applicable codes for stud spacing / size, live and dead loads on the roof system, lateral wind loads, horizontal seam blocking, and any other conjecture, adding additional fasteners or fastening products will not detract from the strength of the wall system. Studs support the vertical loads, sheathing adds lateral stability (with some vertical support). If the system gains strengths by joining of the two components, would it not stand to reason that the means of fastening itself is just as important? Whether or not it’s an economical stand or not, no one here will disagree with me (except for one who will go unnamed) that the addition of an adhesive will not be detrimental to the strength and stability of the wall system. > > I believe the builder is looking for input, and in the end, will do as he pleases. Was the structure under designed? **Possibly.** Will he be tearing it down to rectify? **Not likely.** Will it withstand years of use? **Most likely.** Does it pass State and local building codes? **Unknown.** Can there be changes made from here forward to increase strength? **Certainly.** well then i’ll just take this last opportunity to refute your claim…you are changing the narrative a bit here too…you suggested gluing the CORNERS…which would do just about nothing to solve the problem of having less than optimal stud count everywhere else on the wall…now you are making it out as if you want to glue everything…which would probably be at least 6x more expensive than the alternative. the corners are already the strongest part of the structure\* resisting the least amount of vertical loads…there is essentially 4 times the number of studs present supporting half the load with half the effective height…fortunately the lack of additional studs does not create a problem at the corners…the biggest loads are exhibited somewhere out at the middle of the wall…so gluing the corners does absolutely nothing to solve that problem and therefore would be a waste of time, money and effort. the builder will do as he pleases as you have suggested…i’m just trying to help him not do something that will have zero meaningful benefit to the structure as built when there are cheaper and far more beneficial options available. \*assuming of course that the corners are properly constructed… EDIT: nevermind they look like california corners…so only twice as many studs ---
**Author:** ![1QIKZ](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/1qikz/32/6112_2.png) [@1QIKZ](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/1QIKZ)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2012, 11:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-garage-build-thread/224619/102 "2012-07-24T11:37:50Z")
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**Author:** ![slo\_ride](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/49beb7/32.png) [@slo\_ride](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/slo_ride)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2012, 11:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-garage-build-thread/224619/103 "2012-07-24T11:53:47Z")
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**Author:** ![Xander](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/xander/32/7597_2.png) [@Xander](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Xander)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2012, 4:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-garage-build-thread/224619/104 "2012-07-24T16:09:16Z")
^^^ nice. X… ---
**Author:** ![OriginalSterm](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/originalsterm/32/4964_2.png) [@OriginalSterm](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/OriginalSterm)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2017, 9:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-garage-build-thread/224619/105 "2017-09-28T09:10:56Z")
UPDATE for anyone who remembers this thread… 5+ years later and my garage is still standing. The diagonal dimensions (corner to corner) of the garage are less than 1/4" off and all 4 walls are still perfectly plumb, which means that nothing has changed through several winters and wind storms. My 3/4 ton pickup was backed (lightly) into the garage door frame and the truck bumper suffered a lot more than the 2x4 frame. I insulated the garage and heat it with a torpedo heater, toasty warm after about 45 minutes and the heater shuts off at 70 degrees. Would 2x6 construction or 16" centers have been stronger? No doubt. Will it matter? Maybe in a few decades… [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-garage-build-thread/224619.md?page=5)