# Another I hate Cop thread: Questions inside
**URL:** https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-i-hate-cop-thread-questions-inside/48448
**Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic
**Created:** [May 14, 2008, 2:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-i-hate-cop-thread-questions-inside/48448 "2008-05-14T14:59:56Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@ultradriver10000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ultradriver10000)
#### Post date: [May 14, 2008, 2:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-i-hate-cop-thread-questions-inside/48448/1 "2008-05-14T14:59:56Z")
Ok so after school today at UB I left from the one exit that I normally do not leave from. It ends up that the way I was going was away from the thru-way and going more into Amherst. So I figured I’ll just do a U-turn and go back to the thru-way. Man was I wrong.
I get pulled over about 1/2 mile after the u-turn, not really knowing what it was for. I pull over, turn off my car, put the keys on the dash and my hands on the wheel.
He walks up and says “turn off the car” and I sort of chuckle and say “the car is off sir”. Then he repeats himself “I said turn off the car” I’m thinking super troopers? WTF So I just look at him. He then says give me your license and reg. Ok no problem there are in the glove box and I give them to him. He then says “You know what you did back there was very dumb, your lucky i don’t have your car towed for that. Thats reckless driving you know.”
I respond with “I’m sorry sir I didn’t know it would be an illegal spot to make a u-turn.”
He says. “It was way more then a u-turn.”
I’m thinking WTF? He then walks to his car and sits there for a while.
Comes back with 4 tickets, and says “I’m cutting you a break, i’m not taking you down to the station, have a nice day”
4 Tickets! WTF
1. 1110A-Crossing a double yellow
2. 1160B- Not signaling
3. 1160B- Improper Left turn
4. 1162-Unsafe start
I don’t know what to do. Its really just him verse me. Should I get a lawyer? Does anyone know a good lawyer for Amherst? (Tyler can you chime in?hehehehe)
I thought I was being super polite and doing everything right, I guess not.
BALLS…
> A “U-turn” is any turn “executed so as to proceed in the opposite direction.” Do not attempt a U-turn on a highway unless absolutely necessary. If you must turn around, use a parking lot, driveway or other area, and, if possible, re-enter the roadway going forward, not backing up.
> You may make a U-turn only from the left portion of the lane closest to the centerline of the roadway, never from the right lane. Unless signs tell you otherwise, you may make a U-turn when you are given the go-ahead by a green arrow left-turn traffic signal, provided it is not prohibited and you yield to other traffic.
> You may not make a U-turn near the crest of a hill, a curve or any other place where other drivers cannot see your vehicle from 500 feet (_150 m_) away in either direction. U-turns are also illegal in business districts of New York City and where NO U-TURN signs are posted. You may never make a U-turn on a limited access expressway, even if paths connect your side of the expressway with the other side.
> Unless prohibited, a three-point turn may be used to turn around on a narrow, two-way street. You may be required to make one of these turns on your road test.
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### Author:  [@Nikuk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nikuk)
#### Post date: [May 14, 2008, 3:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-i-hate-cop-thread-questions-inside/48448/2 "2008-05-14T15:09:31Z")
Not gonna try to justify it…
but what time of day was this?
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### Author:  [@snowracer101](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/snowracer101)
#### Post date: [May 14, 2008, 3:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-i-hate-cop-thread-questions-inside/48448/3 "2008-05-14T15:10:12Z")
NICE!
plead not guilty, unless you have a hook up with a lawyer, don’t get one…as it will cost 200+
Dress nice, go to your court date that you receive in the mail, tell the prosecutor excatly what happened. Tell him/her the officer was VERY short with you and rather unprofessional.
You’ll still get a fine but if the prosecutor is a human being with a conscious he will drop most of the tickets.
Edit: he probably gave you an unsafe start ticket due to your loud exhaust. It SOUNDED like you were accelerating fast. For this reason exactly, I avoid amherst at ALL costs
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### Author:  [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)
#### Post date: [May 14, 2008, 3:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-i-hate-cop-thread-questions-inside/48448/4 "2008-05-14T15:11:55Z")
In the vette?
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### Author:  [@Justin](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Justin)
#### Post date: [May 14, 2008, 3:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-i-hate-cop-thread-questions-inside/48448/5 "2008-05-14T15:17:46Z")
I know the best lawyer in Amherst if your interested. And many people can vouch.
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### Author:  [@ultradriver10000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ultradriver10000)
#### Post date: [May 14, 2008, 3:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-i-hate-cop-thread-questions-inside/48448/6 "2008-05-14T15:27:25Z")
> [@LZ](#):
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> In the vette?
Yup…the one day I take it up to school…grumble grumble grumble
I even had the traction control on because it was starting to rain and I wasn’t sure how the new tires would react. ☹ It was at 4.19 pm exactly. (Almost 4.20 god damn hippies)
I did accelerate fast, because the red light down the road was changing, but I didn’t light them up. If I did it would have been a lot tighter of a turn!
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### Author:  [@BigRon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BigRon)
#### Post date: [May 14, 2008, 3:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-i-hate-cop-thread-questions-inside/48448/7 "2008-05-14T15:29:02Z")
Let me guess the back end got a little loose and the tires made a high pitched noise during your U-turn?
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### Author:  [@snowracer101](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/snowracer101)
#### Post date: [May 14, 2008, 3:33pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-i-hate-cop-thread-questions-inside/48448/8 "2008-05-14T15:33:19Z")
> [@BigRon](#):
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> Let me guess the back end got a little loose and the tires made a high pitched noise during your U-turn?
If they did, say you have a really aggressive LSD and the inside tire squeals on tight turns
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### Author:  [@ultradriver10000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ultradriver10000)
#### Post date: [May 14, 2008, 3:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-i-hate-cop-thread-questions-inside/48448/9 "2008-05-14T15:45:37Z")
The posi is really tight but not that tight, it was damp and just started to rain, so there was no noise at all, if anything the inside tire spun a little, but I wasn’t on it hard, I short shifted 1st into 4th.
No wigwagging
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### Author:  [@ly555is](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ly555is)
#### Post date: [May 14, 2008, 3:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-i-hate-cop-thread-questions-inside/48448/10 "2008-05-14T15:48:27Z")
i dunno man
hard to make a judgement call without actually seeing what you did, which sounds like you took off a little too fast doing an illegal u-turn in a red corvette as an 18-26 male. best of luck tho, sorry to hear.
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### Author:  [@Nikuk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nikuk)
#### Post date: [May 14, 2008, 3:53pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-i-hate-cop-thread-questions-inside/48448/11 "2008-05-14T15:53:09Z")
> [@ly555is](#):
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> i dunno man
>
> hard to make a judgement call without actually seeing what you did, which sounds like you took off a little too fast doing an illegal u-turn in a red corvette as an 18-26 male. best of luck tho, sorry to hear.
during rush hour.
Sorry.
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### Author:  [@ultradriver10000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ultradriver10000)
#### Post date: [May 14, 2008, 4:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-i-hate-cop-thread-questions-inside/48448/12 "2008-05-14T16:07:12Z")
> [@ly555is](#):
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> i dunno man
>
> hard to make a judgement call without actually seeing what you did, which sounds like you took off a little too fast doing an illegal u-turn in a red corvette as an 18-26 male. best of luck tho, sorry to hear.
Pretty much, my question is why was it an illegal u-turn, I thought you can make a u-turn anywhere? Also why wasn’t I just giving an illegal u-turn ticket?
Also: I’d like to not loose my license for a u-turn…or pay $500 for i!
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### Author:  [@Karter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Karter)
#### Post date: [May 14, 2008, 4:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-i-hate-cop-thread-questions-inside/48448/13 "2008-05-14T16:13:39Z")
I thought you had to spin the tires for an unsafe start.
Wow Learn something everyday.
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### Author:  [@Nikuk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nikuk)
#### Post date: [May 14, 2008, 4:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-i-hate-cop-thread-questions-inside/48448/14 "2008-05-14T16:20:55Z")
> [@ultradriver10000](#):
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> Pretty much, my question is why was it an illegal u-turn, I thought you can make a u-turn anywhere? Also why wasn’t I just giving an illegal u-turn ticket?
>
> Also: I’d like to not loose my license for a u-turn…or pay $500 for i!
is that hill there \>500’ away? Only thing I can think of…
I’d plea not guilty either way. Cant hurt to try.
edit- You were written for an _illegal left turn_ along with the not signaling, unsafe start, and double yellow… not u-turn. Lookup the law on that maybe.
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### Author:  [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)
#### Post date: [May 14, 2008, 4:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-i-hate-cop-thread-questions-inside/48448/15 "2008-05-14T16:23:37Z")
> [@ultradriver10000](#):
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> Pretty much, my question is why was it an illegal u-turn, I thought you can make a u-turn anywhere?
Were you 500 feet from intersections in any direction? Pretty sure they can use the “or anywhere else a car can’t see you” if there is an intersection. I remember, from drivers ed I think, that someone told me a u-turn within 500 feet of an intersection is illegal.
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### Author:  [@Violator](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Violator)
#### Post date: [May 14, 2008, 4:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-i-hate-cop-thread-questions-inside/48448/16 "2008-05-14T16:29:42Z")
The unsafe start is the biggest one. That paints you as a reckless asshole is what you need to go away. A lawyer would be a big help for these and avoiding school.
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### Author:  [@Shockwave179](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shockwave179)
#### Post date: [May 14, 2008, 4:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-i-hate-cop-thread-questions-inside/48448/17 "2008-05-14T16:38:48Z")
Get a lawyer, plead not guilty and dress nice for court etc. The lawyer should get like 3 out of the 4 tickets dropped most likely. Also delay the court date if possible.
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### Author:  [@05OrangeSS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/05OrangeSS)
#### Post date: [May 14, 2008, 5:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-i-hate-cop-thread-questions-inside/48448/18 "2008-05-14T17:11:38Z")
> [@01AudiS4](#):
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> I know the best lawyer in Amherst if your interested. And many people can vouch.
Is it Tom Girillo? He is a lawyer, who also just happens to be an Amherst police officer…
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### Author:  [@snowracer101](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/snowracer101)
#### Post date: [May 14, 2008, 5:49pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-i-hate-cop-thread-questions-inside/48448/19 "2008-05-14T17:49:43Z")
> [@05OrangeSS](#):
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> Is it Tom Girillo? He is a lawyer, who also just happens to be an Amherst police officer…
isn’t that like…conflict of interest?
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### Author:  [@Willybeen](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Willybeen)
#### Post date: [May 14, 2008, 6:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-i-hate-cop-thread-questions-inside/48448/20 "2008-05-14T18:06:02Z")
> [@ultradriver10000](#):
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> the read light
SERIOUSLY?
> [@ultradriver10000](#):
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> I’m cutting you a brake,
Really?
> [@sedlmeier101](#):
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> isn’t that like…conflict of interest?
lol, Outside Business Activity should probably be cleared with HR of both jobs. :lol:
Good luck with this … sorry to hear, Im lucky most cops I meet seem to be decent individuals
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