# another new car....

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-new-car/270470>\
**Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\
**Created:** [September 2, 2014, 10:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-new-car/270470 "2014-09-02T10:51:46Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 13\
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**Author:** ![Skurge](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/skurge/32/7285_2.png) [@Skurge](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Skurge)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2014, 8:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-new-car/270470/41 "2014-09-08T08:42:53Z")

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> [@GV1390](#):
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> You guys are really arguing over 200hp? lol.

not an argument when you are merely stating facts 🙂

i believe wahoo’s comment was the one intended to start something

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**Author:** ![yamba6](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/yamba6/32/5161_2.png) [@yamba6](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/yamba6)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2014, 8:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-new-car/270470/42 "2014-09-08T08:55:09Z")

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> [@GV1390](#):
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> You guys are really arguing over 200hp? lol.

Nothing about the 200hp, about the added 60hp you get to the crank very easily.

Edit: People say they are slow cars but dont realize how inexpensive it is to gain power. The car is priced lower because its pretty much a car built for tuners to enjoy throwing money at the way they want. Only downside is obviously the warranty gets voided.

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**Author:** ![deebo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/deebo/32/5218_2.png) [@deebo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/deebo)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2014, 9:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-new-car/270470/43 "2014-09-08T09:29:13Z")

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They seem about just a little less worthless to mod NA than an S2000

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**Author:** ![yamba6](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/yamba6/32/5161_2.png) [@yamba6](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/yamba6)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2014, 9:48am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-new-car/270470/44 "2014-09-08T09:48:01Z")

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> [@deebo](#):
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> They seem about just a little less worthless to mod NA than an S2000

I think the difference is the Money to power gain between the two. The FRS seems like its going to be much cheaper to mod than an s2000 to actually see gains. Where as you do the same upgrades on the S and you get like 5hp spending twice as much.

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**Author:** ![deebo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/deebo/32/5218_2.png) [@deebo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/deebo)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2014, 9:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-new-car/270470/45 "2014-09-08T09:50:48Z")

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Yeah I’m guessing my header and catback on my S with intake gained about 5hp lol. All it did was make vtec sound cooler.  
I haven’t heard an FRS in person yet with an exhaust. My friend has a factory performance one or w.e but it’s pretty quiet

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**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2014, 9:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-new-car/270470/46 "2014-09-08T09:58:20Z")

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I had a bunch of 200hp jokes but I decided I should be happy people are talking about cars in general on here instead of homes.

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**Author:** ![cretinx](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cretinx/32/6121_2.png) [@cretinx](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cretinx)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2014, 10:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-new-car/270470/47 "2014-09-08T10:39:33Z")

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> [@Wahoo](#):
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> That’s cool that they have insurance for racing.

I wasn’t racing. I was at a DE.

> [@theblue](#):
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> yeah, but it’s not cheap…

It was $200 for two days on a $25,000 car.

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> [@LZ](#):
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> Not really its racing and shit happens…
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> I’m pretty sure most people here couldn’t cover a 20-30k loss at the track

IT’S NOT RACING. The rules for damage/loss during a race are completely different.

And if you can’t afford to walk away from a track day without the car you took on track, you can’t afford to do track days.

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> [@POOPRA](#):
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> so what exactly happened? what turn did you in?

Front straight. I took the car out in severe weather on track tires because, fuck it, I had track insurance.

The car hydroplaned and I wiggled the wheel back and forth to keep it heading straight. Once it slowed down enough to stop hydroplaning the front wheel was pointed toward the inside wall. The car took a set and turned in the direction the front wheels were pointed. Kaboom. Headfirst at 80 mph into the Armco.

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> [@maxwell](#):
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> It SHOULD get the new 2l turbo (as seen in new WRX) and be branded as the sti version but who knows.

Highly unlikely. In order to fit a turbocharger on the car, given how low and far back the motor is, they would need to delete emissions. The OEM isn’t going to produce a vehicle that isn’t emissions compliant.

Now - options include a front mount turbocharger like STM has been doing, or a top mount supercharger which is just a simple bolt on application given the H configuration of the motor. My money is on a top mount supercharger, as TRD has a history of offering superchargers aftermarket and keeping them in warranty.

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> [@Skurge](#):
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> i’m not sure you are correct, these engines take very well to mods
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> this dyno is the same car,same dyno, same day. 100% stock and the higher numbers are ONLY adding a catted header(no tune)
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> [ATTACH=CONFIG]33594[/ATTACH]
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> add in the rest of the exhaust and and intake(which probably isn’t needed as the stock unit flows fairly well), and you’ll be knocking on 60hp at the crank
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> and yes, hi, i’m an FRS owner also
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> though, if you really want to go all out, and hit 200WHP with just a full exhaust and a tune, it can be done  
> this is an equal length, catless header, lower numbers are stock baseline, upper are header and tune etc  
> [ATTACH=CONFIG]33595[/ATTACH]

So you’re saying it can hit 260 magazine horsepower with bolt ons, then you’re showing a dyno of the car hitting 200 whp (230 magazine horsepower) with bolt ons . . . . :picard:

Please show us this mythical 260 horsepower dyno . . . .

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**Author:** ![theblue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/theblue/32/5074_2.png) [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2014, 10:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-new-car/270470/48 "2014-09-08T10:47:21Z")

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nice headers and a tune for +20 or so sounds about right… I can’t picture anymore real power for cheap.

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**Author:** ![ubengineering](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ubengineering/32/5171_2.png) [@ubengineering](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ubengineering)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2014, 11:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-new-car/270470/49 "2014-09-08T11:23:37Z")

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Will this escalate into the drama section???

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**Author:** ![Mr\_T](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mr_t/32/7454_2.png) [@Mr\_T](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mr_T)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2014, 12:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-new-car/270470/50 "2014-09-08T12:40:22Z")

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> [@Skurge](#):
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> i’m not sure you are correct, these engines take very well to mods
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> this dyno is the same car,same dyno, same day. 100% stock and the higher numbers are ONLY adding a catted header(no tune)
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> [ATTACH=CONFIG]33594[/ATTACH]
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> add in the rest of the exhaust and and intake(which probably isn’t needed as the stock unit flows fairly well), and you’ll be knocking on 60hp at the crank
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> and yes, hi, i’m an FRS owner also
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> though, if you really want to go all out, and hit 200WHP with just a full exhaust and a tune, it can be done  
> this is an equal length, catless header, lower numbers are stock baseline, upper are header and tune etc  
> [ATTACH=CONFIG]33595[/ATTACH]

Nice I knew there had to be another one on here haha.

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**Author:** ![Skurge](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/skurge/32/7285_2.png) [@Skurge](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Skurge)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2014, 12:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-new-car/270470/51 "2014-09-08T12:58:29Z")

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> [@deebo](#):
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> Yeah I’m guessing my header and catback on my S with intake gained about 5hp lol. All it did was make vtec sound cooler.  
> I haven’t heard an FRS in person yet with an exhaust. My friend has a factory performance one or w.e but it’s pretty quiet

lol yup, the only thing the intake and test pipe did for the S2000 was make it more annoying to everyone outside the car, i’m ok with it

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> [@cretinx](#):
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> So you’re saying it can hit 260 magazine horsepower with bolt ons, then you’re showing a dyno of the car hitting 200 whp (230 magazine horsepower) with bolt ons . . . . :picard:
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> Please show us this mythical 260 horsepower dyno . . . .

what? i didn’t claim anything, if you read correctly, what was posted was 2 dyno’s

one with just a header and no tune, 22tq and 12hp

other was 200WHP with a full exhaust and tune

i thought it was pretty clear, shows 45 or so WHP from an exhaust and tune(i said “add in the rest of the exhaust and and intake(which probably isn’t needed as the stock unit flows fairly well), and you’ll be knocking on 60hp at the crank” 45WHP without an intake is going to be pretty damn close to 60 crank hp if you add an intake and tune it again

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**Author:** ![BigRon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/58956e/32.png) [@BigRon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BigRon)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2014, 2:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-new-car/270470/52 "2014-10-01T14:09:31Z")

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Looks like there is another one:  
[http://www.nyspeed.com/showthread.php?281368-Decided-to-drop-down-to-one-car](http://www.nyspeed.com/showthread.php?281368-Decided-to-drop-down-to-one-car)

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**Author:** ![Mr\_T](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mr_t/32/7454_2.png) [@Mr\_T](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mr_T)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2014, 6:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-new-car/270470/53 "2014-10-01T18:11:31Z")

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> [@BigRon](#):
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> Looks like there is another one:  
> [http://www.nyspeed.com/showthread.php?281368-Decided-to-drop-down-to-one-car](http://www.nyspeed.com/showthread.php?281368-Decided-to-drop-down-to-one-car)

there we go! I saw a blue br-z at my work today but I doubt it was him.

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