# Another one killed

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-one-killed/259786>\
**Category:** Shift518 Automotive\
**Created:** [August 5, 2011, 5:40am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-one-killed/259786 "2011-08-05T05:40:48Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 10\
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**Author:** ![PFaux](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pfaux/32/6722_2.png) [@PFaux](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/PFaux)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2011, 11:14am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-one-killed/259786/41 "2011-08-08T11:14:02Z")

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holy crap, missed this thread, i guess that is 4 fatals in less then 30 days.

> [@\*\*\*\*\*Official: Mighty Meet Thread\*\*\*\*\*](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-mighty-meet-thread/10918/2871):
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> It’s still a bad street bike because of the uncomfortable seating position and powerband not hitting until 40 plus, compared to a Vtwin sport tourer such as an SV or a motard with a single where you get power on demand. Out of every turn, away from every light Id rather have power down low than peaky.

do you really consider the sv650 a sport touring bike? i _guess_ it is, no room for luggage though. i totally agree with you about liter bikes being just to much for the road.

I would say that sooner or later, even on a sv650, you are going to progress to the point where to practice and improve upon your skills… you are basically wreckless driving. in other words, you can’t enjoy thier full potential on the road legally

> [@Will we get the ice storm today?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/will-we-get-the-ice-storm-today/44408/95):
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> Personally I have never come close to 120 on my bike or car & I doubt I ever will unless on a track.

You sir have a lot of self control and should be commended for this. i’ve never gone that fast on anything less then a 4 lane hwy and thats asshole behavior i admit.

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**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2011, 11:22am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-one-killed/259786/42 "2011-08-08T11:22:09Z")

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Yes I do. As I’ve said earlier I’ve went on a coastal trip last month and put 3700 miles on my SV. Add soft saddle bags and a tank bag and in 5 minutes you got a solid tourer (change the seat).

As far as getting bored comment, I’ve been riding SV’s for over 5 years now and have approximately 60,000 miles on them (I actually own two right now), and the thing is still a hoot to ride and commute on. I’ve mad a thread on the SV forum seeing how many people left the SS world and went back and or chose an SV instead. It was a rather large amount of people who believe an SV makes a better street bike.

I don’t get what you mean by prograssing as a rider and improving your skills that you can’t any longer enjoy the bike on the street?

I enjoy _riding_, all sorts of riding, agressive, off the road, touring, commuting, hooligan (motard). On the street the SV allows me to get on the throttle at any rpm and any speed and enjoy a bit of power allowing me to stay at the speed limit, or have a blast getting to it.

Aggressive riding has it’s time and place and I’d like to go to the track more often as time allows it. In the mean time you can always go on a cruise north or elsewhere if you want to push your limits. Going 100mph plus on residential streets is not that place.

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**Author:** ![PFaux](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pfaux/32/6722_2.png) [@PFaux](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/PFaux)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2011, 11:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-one-killed/259786/43 "2011-08-08T11:32:18Z")

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you have the ‘s’ model or the completely naked one. The sv650s is at least slightly more aggressive riding position, but the clip ons maybe 3’’ or more higher then an r6. I still found it difficult to get used to but now i can ride it for hours… somewhat comfortably.

I didn’t mean to say that one would get bored with it, and perhaps i am exposing myself as having the wrong mentality for a street rider, but at some point to improve ones mastery of the bike (more comfortable at steeper lean angles, comming in and out of turns faster, i.e. racing) you are either going to be traveling well above the speed limit and/or taking to great a risk on pot hole filled public roads. i guess that shouldn’t be just applied to sport bikes either.

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**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2011, 11:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-one-killed/259786/44 "2011-08-08T11:39:46Z")

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I have both. The S got the Gsxr front end swap and gotten a very aggressive seating position now, so calling it a tourer would be a stretch.

The N is solid though.

You can be agressive on any bike, including goldwings and 250’s. First time ive scraped a peg on my SV was the same turn which nearly took my life on the 636 a year or two after. I got little to no self control so I ride bikes that encourage me to slow down and don’t tempt me to 180 because if it can, I will try it.

The S also had a short sprocket so you could rip through the first 3 gears and still be under 60. That kept me satisfied.

If you’re trying to improve your “mastery” of the bike “ie racing” go on lonely roads up north with little to no traffic of invest in track days.

Aaron (rocket punch) on here has an SV as his race bike and goes quite a bit. He can help with any questions.

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**Author:** ![PFaux](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pfaux/32/6722_2.png) [@PFaux](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/PFaux)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2011, 12:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-one-killed/259786/45 "2011-08-08T12:41:03Z")

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nearest track is NH? is that true?

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**Author:** ![RocketPunch](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rocketpunch/32/6429_2.png) [@RocketPunch](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RocketPunch)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2011, 1:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-one-killed/259786/46 "2011-08-08T13:00:22Z")

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> [@Mechanical Engineer Salary?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mechanical-engineer-salary/44434/59):
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> nearest track is NH? is that true?

Not trying to side track the thread, but the short answer to your question is yes. Monti used to be the closest, but they stopped running bikes starting this year. NHMS = 4hrs, NJMP = 6hrs.

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**Author:** ![Gundamzeppelin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Gundamzeppelin](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Gundamzeppelin)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2011, 1:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-one-killed/259786/47 "2011-08-08T13:05:19Z")

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^this

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**Author:** ![PFaux](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pfaux/32/6722_2.png) [@PFaux](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/PFaux)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2011, 1:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-one-killed/259786/48 "2011-08-08T13:10:07Z")

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is there legal reasons for no track in NY or its just another reason why the peoples republic of New York sucks?

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**Author:** ![Gundamzeppelin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Gundamzeppelin](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Gundamzeppelin)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2011, 1:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-one-killed/259786/49 "2011-08-08T13:13:27Z")

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> [@How do you feel about Pepboys](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-do-you-feel-about-pepboys/44476/23):
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> is there legal reasons for no track in NY or its just another reason why the peoples republic of New York sucks?

I’d go with sucks.

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**Author:** ![RocketPunch](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rocketpunch/32/6429_2.png) [@RocketPunch](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RocketPunch)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2011, 1:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-one-killed/259786/50 "2011-08-08T13:23:07Z")

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> [@How do you feel about Pepboys](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-do-you-feel-about-pepboys/44476/23):
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> is there legal reasons for no track in NY or its just another reason why the peoples republic of New York sucks?

My guess is some rich fat middle age track memebers in NYC on $100k Porsches simply don’t like their lap times got beat by some fit middle age bikers with a 10 year old EX500 with $1k in suspension work and $400 DOT race tires. :crackup:crackup

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