# Another one killed **URL:** \ **Category:** Shift518 Automotive\ **Created:** [August 5, 2011, 5:40am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-one-killed/259786 "2011-08-05T05:40:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 17
**Author:** ![Gundamzeppelin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Gundamzeppelin](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Gundamzeppelin)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2011, 7:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-one-killed/259786/17 "2011-08-05T19:05:28Z")
> [@HiSpeed48"](#): > > but in this instance, taking a turn too fast will cause a crash regardless of what type of motorcycle you’re on > > imo the reason crotch rockets are linked to lots of crashes isn’t because of the motorcycle itself, it is because of the type of people who are attracted to them (young thrill seekers who aren’t very safety conscious) ^This A bike has nothing to do with rider error, or the level of invincibility most riders on street bikes put in their minds. That’s why so few wear gear it’s to hot, they don’t need it. IMO the MSF doesn’t teach enough & lets people pass to easy. They leave thinking they know all there is to know about riding a bike once they get their license. The thought of going to riding school or reading books on how to improve their skills does not pass 90% of riders minds. The only thing most care to learn is “How to Wheelie, How to do a Stopie or a burnout.” > [@Mechanical Engineer Salary?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mechanical-engineer-salary/44434/9): > > Where was a turn involved here? > > From the post from another forum he was going 120mph plus presumably in a straight line and collided with a truck. > > The unfortunate thing is, the bikes most appealing to beginners are the ones that are least beginner friendly. > > We need more models, the new 250 is on the right track but most people want a bit more than that. A 250 should be a starting point for most riders, but few people take motorcycles seriously & just want a bike to look cool & be fast. --- _[View the full topic](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-one-killed/259786)._