# Another reason not to lift in a turn.. **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [June 12, 2008, 10:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-reason-not-to-lift-in-a-turn/49926 "2008-06-12T22:20:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![rj-92](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rj-92/32/7310_2.png) [@rj-92](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/rj-92)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2008, 10:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-reason-not-to-lift-in-a-turn/49926/1 "2008-06-12T22:20:47Z")
Differnt outcome form the M3 vid, but shows once again that If you lif tmid corner, you’re fucked. I don’t care if your car has 1243–912834012893=1 wheel drive and all kinds of electronic BS, ghizmos. Physics \> engineering bitches. No offense Chuck. ---
**Author:** ![Violator](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/violator/32/7278_2.png) [@Violator](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Violator)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2008, 10:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-reason-not-to-lift-in-a-turn/49926/2 "2008-06-12T22:38:07Z")
Lucky he didnt clip the rear ---
**Author:** ![Willybeen](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/willybeen/32/7351_2.png) [@Willybeen](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Willybeen)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2008, 10:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-reason-not-to-lift-in-a-turn/49926/3 "2008-06-12T22:46:10Z")
Im not familiar with the term lift with cars… please explain ---
**Author:** ![Hortanica](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Hortanica](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Hortanica)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2008, 10:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-reason-not-to-lift-in-a-turn/49926/4 "2008-06-12T22:56:07Z")
^^i had to look it up myself. What i got out of it, is when you lift off the accelerator going into a turn, you remove any force keeping the rear wheels planted, so when the front dives down into the turn, the rear tires lose traction causing it to come around. I’ll find the link that i grabbed the explanation from in a minute. not it but found it quicker: [Lift-off oversteer - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lift-off_oversteer) > Lift-off oversteer (also known as snap-oversteer, trailing-throttle oversteer, throttle off oversteer, or lift-throttle oversteer) is a form of oversteer in an automobile that occurs when the vertical load on the tires shifts from the rear to the front quickly due to throttle release while cornering. This decrease in vertical load causes a decrease in the lateral force generated by the rear axle, so the axle starts to accelerate towards the outside of the turn. This steers the car more tightly into the turn, hence causing oversteer. In essence, this means that easing off the gas causes the rear wheels to break away suddenly, with the potential for the car to leave the road tail first. ---
**Author:** ![Willybeen](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/willybeen/32/7351_2.png) [@Willybeen](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Willybeen)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2008, 11:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-reason-not-to-lift-in-a-turn/49926/5 "2008-06-12T23:47:27Z")
Ok, i follow… same as with a bike… smooth = fast… thanks ---
**Author:** ![FSANE](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fsane/32/5234_2.png) [@FSANE](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/FSANE)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2008, 11:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-reason-not-to-lift-in-a-turn/49926/6 "2008-06-12T23:51:21Z")
come in slow before the turn and come out fast. ---
**Author:** ![amspimpwagon](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/amspimpwagon/32/7339_2.png) [@amspimpwagon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/amspimpwagon)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2008, 12:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-reason-not-to-lift-in-a-turn/49926/7 "2008-06-13T00:39:44Z")
TD that people had to look that up… LoL ---
**Author:** ![cky89](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cky89/32/4945_2.png) [@cky89](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cky89)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2008, 12:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-reason-not-to-lift-in-a-turn/49926/8 "2008-06-13T00:55:46Z")
I was always afraid to lift in turns at dunnville from these videos lol ---
**Author:** ![Bigairskier1580](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bigairskier1580/32/7612_2.png) [@Bigairskier1580](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Bigairskier1580)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2008, 5:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-reason-not-to-lift-in-a-turn/49926/9 "2008-06-13T05:47:06Z")
Modulation is key. Some lift can benefit in some cars. All depends on the car, and the driver. ---
**Author:** ![newman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/newman/32/7569_2.png) [@newman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/newman)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2008, 5:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-reason-not-to-lift-in-a-turn/49926/10 "2008-06-13T05:49:59Z")
that was a nice save. ---
**Author:** ![Zong](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/zong/32/7580_2.png) [@Zong](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Zong)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2008, 5:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-reason-not-to-lift-in-a-turn/49926/11 "2008-06-13T05:53:21Z")
but there are many reasons TO lift in a turn! ---
**Author:** ![dmoffitt](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/dmoffitt/32/7455_2.png) [@dmoffitt](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dmoffitt)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2008, 6:48am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-reason-not-to-lift-in-a-turn/49926/12 "2008-06-13T06:48:35Z")
as newman said, great save (whether it was skill or luck _shrug_) ---
**Author:** ![Silver](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/silver/32/4953_2.png) [@Silver](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Silver)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2008, 6:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-reason-not-to-lift-in-a-turn/49926/13 "2008-06-13T06:58:36Z")
> [@Bigairskier1580](#): > > Modulation is key. Some lift can benefit in some cars. > > All depends on the car, and the driver. QFT. ---
**Author:** ![DeusExMachina](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/deusexmachina/32/5036_2.png) [@DeusExMachina](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/DeusExMachina)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2008, 8:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-reason-not-to-lift-in-a-turn/49926/14 "2008-06-13T08:19:55Z")
Obviously he clutch kicked it trying to whip the back around for extra Kudos. ---
**Author:** ![newman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/newman/32/7569_2.png) [@newman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/newman)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2008, 8:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-reason-not-to-lift-in-a-turn/49926/15 "2008-06-13T08:30:48Z")
> [@DeusExMachina](#): > > Obviously he clutch kicked it trying to whip the back around for extra Kudos. Lol. He WISHES he could do that. ---
**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2008, 8:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-reason-not-to-lift-in-a-turn/49926/16 "2008-06-13T08:33:01Z")
Scary thread.