# Another Travis drama... No wai!

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-travis-drama-no-wai/236503>\
**Category:** Shift518 Off Topic\
**Created:** [April 17, 2008, 8:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-travis-drama-no-wai/236503 "2008-04-17T20:59:37Z")\
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**Author:** ![bennyfizzle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bennyfizzle/32/6291_2.png) [@bennyfizzle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bennyfizzle)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2008, 4:40am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-travis-drama-no-wai/236503/401 "2008-04-21T04:40:52Z")

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X-Drilled rotors do nothing but crack. true story. the people buying x-drilled rotors are assuming it’s going to do something for them simply because they look the same as the ones on f/p-cars.

When in reality, this is all they do:

![http://www.vwgallery.net/gallery/d/5416-1/IMG_2182_1.jpg](http://www.vwgallery.net/gallery/d/5416-1/IMG_2182_1.jpg)

![http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p319/M_III_Pilot/Brake%20Rotors/CrackedRR1.jpg](http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p319/M_III_Pilot/Brake%20Rotors/CrackedRR1.jpg)

Buying x-drilled rotors imo is no better than buying blue bulbs for your turn signals or wire looming every wire under your hood in blue wire loom from advanced.

And it only made that V6 Camaro stop WORSE than a blank would have.

Oh, and ps…this fucking thread SUCKS hard, you’re a bunch of toolbags :haha

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**Author:** ![SSmokinn\_SS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@SSmokinn\_SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SSmokinn_SS)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2008, 4:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-travis-drama-no-wai/236503/402 "2008-04-21T04:45:04Z")

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Mine werent X drilled???

these were mine…

![http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj136/sxryder46/sum-dsep-5514ljpg.jpg](http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj136/sxryder46/sum-dsep-5514ljpg.jpg)

and I didnt have ABS cause of my WS6 rear end swap in the car…so they DID help a TON.

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**Author:** ![bennyfizzle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bennyfizzle/32/6291_2.png) [@bennyfizzle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bennyfizzle)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2008, 4:48am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-travis-drama-no-wai/236503/403 "2008-04-21T04:48:20Z")

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Yeah X-drilled and slotted.

And no, they didnt. maybe they were better than your old ass rotors on there but I’d put money on you not being able to distinguish between stock blanks and those in a blind test.

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**Author:** ![SSmokinn\_SS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@SSmokinn\_SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SSmokinn_SS)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2008, 4:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-travis-drama-no-wai/236503/404 "2008-04-21T04:50:49Z")

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> [@bennyfizzle](#):
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> Yeah X-drilled and slotted.
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> And no, they didnt. maybe they were better than your old ass rotors on there but I’d put money on you not being able to distinguish between stock blanks and those in a blind test.

if they performed like the regular solid ones…why are they putting them on C6’s? Z06’s? Vipers? etc stock from the factory…cooler= better stopping power…not to mention, that rotor was much bigger in diameter then the front stockers that were on my car…stopped better? IT DID

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**Author:** ![bennyfizzle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bennyfizzle/32/6291_2.png) [@bennyfizzle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bennyfizzle)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2008, 4:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-travis-drama-no-wai/236503/405 "2008-04-21T04:57:01Z")

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Well if you went to a BIGGER blank you would have felt the same gain, all I’m saying. The x-drilled crap is JUST FOR LOOKS. all I’m saying, the other cars you’re naming that come with x-drilled (ie: the new z06/zr1/ferraris/porsches) are engineered with x-drilled brakes in mind, it’s been tested and proved too many times for me to keep arguing.

MOST aftermarket x-drilled rotors should be used for nothing more than show cars and paper weights. That is all.

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**Author:** ![bennyfizzle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bennyfizzle/32/6291_2.png) [@bennyfizzle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bennyfizzle)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2008, 4:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-travis-drama-no-wai/236503/406 "2008-04-21T04:58:30Z")

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A GOOD, SLOTTED rotor WILL provide a tangible gain however, and SHOULD last as long as a blank with no problems, just going to eat pads faster.

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**Author:** ![SSmokinn\_SS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@SSmokinn\_SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SSmokinn_SS)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2008, 5:02am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-travis-drama-no-wai/236503/407 "2008-04-21T05:02:21Z")

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> [@bennyfizzle](#):
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> A GOOD, SLOTTED rotor WILL provide a tangible gain however, and SHOULD last as long as a blank with no problems, just going to eat pads faster.

well I never had a single problem with mine…and they were about an inch overall in diameter bigger then my stockers.

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**Author:** ![bennyfizzle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bennyfizzle/32/6291_2.png) [@bennyfizzle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bennyfizzle)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2008, 5:09am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-travis-drama-no-wai/236503/408 "2008-04-21T05:09:54Z")

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Sure, not YET, and some people’s won’t crack…they’ll only crack if you use em right, which is the bad part of them.

Like I said, they’re great for show cars with d-bag owners who can’t drive. But if you use your breaks right they’ll fail…just saying.

Most x-drilled rotors, even if they’re Brembos (I know how much ricers love to say they have brembo brakes :🙂 :rofl --not calling you a ricer btw) can/will crack given the same amount of a workout as a blank, and the blanks are cheaper…it’s just not an ‘upgrade’ in people’s minds so it’s not ‘cool’.

OE Blank= :nod  
Oversized blank= :nod  
OE/BBK x-drilled= :nod  
Aftermarket x-drilled (majority)= :idiots

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**Author:** ![Cliff](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b38774/32.png) [@Cliff](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cliff)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2008, 8:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-travis-drama-no-wai/236503/409 "2008-04-21T08:29:04Z")

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> [@93v8clone](#):
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> dont really give a fuck its a forum not a essay

So, you’re the kinda guy who’ll go out in pajama’s with bedhead not giving a fuck that you look? i dont give a damn about the internet its just a forum so i have run on sentences but i somehow still cannot type as poorly as you and have such horrible mistakes despite the fact that im using no punctuation so who knows what that actually means about you beause i know even if you were typing an essay it’d still read fail on the top when your 5th grade teacher gives it back to you

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**Author:** ![GranMassaX](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/granmassax/32/6299_2.png) [@GranMassaX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/GranMassaX)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2008, 8:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-travis-drama-no-wai/236503/410 "2008-04-21T08:33:36Z")

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Tripp, well done sir. See what happens when you mess with “da crew”. Say anything to any of them and the others swing in and get involved.

this thread is da bomb

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**Author:** ![Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mk4_30r_ban/32/6347_2.png) [@Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mk4_30R_Ban)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2008, 8:36am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-travis-drama-no-wai/236503/411 "2008-04-21T08:36:43Z")

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it depends on the way the rotors are made too, the Brembo and zimmermann x-drilled rotors are the most superior in design, they are actually casted with the holes in them vice the cheap genaric type that are actually drilled… they will crack over time, but nothing like the cheapos, i had a set of brembo cross drilled on my old mk2 VR-6 and after almost 30k miles on them a couple spots showed some slight cracking, but that was some hard miles too. on the street you wont notice much of a gain if any, but when things heat up and assuming you have good pads( hawk, ebc, ferodo, etc) you will notice a difference with the larger and or cross drilled because they are able to dissipate heat and transfer gasses from the rotor face better than the standard type rotor.

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**Author:** ![Tripp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e79b87/32.png) [@Tripp](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Tripp)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2008, 8:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-travis-drama-no-wai/236503/412 "2008-04-21T08:50:05Z")

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> [@GranMassaX](#):
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> Tripp, well done sir. See what happens when you mess with “da crew”. Say anything to any of them and the others swing in and get involved.
> 
> this thread is da bomb

I give the credit to bob, without him this would have never been possible.

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**Author:** ![Cliff](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b38774/32.png) [@Cliff](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cliff)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2008, 8:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-travis-drama-no-wai/236503/413 "2008-04-21T08:51:58Z")

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> [@Tripp](#):
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> I give the credit to bob, without him this would have never been possible.

I street race and brag about it on the innanet. Going fast in a straight line makes my balls grow larger. It inflates my ego when I race Geo Metro’s and beat them by 3 BUS LENGTHS. omg.

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**Author:** ![bennyfizzle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bennyfizzle/32/6291_2.png) [@bennyfizzle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bennyfizzle)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2008, 9:20am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-travis-drama-no-wai/236503/414 "2008-04-21T09:20:38Z")

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> [@Mk4 30R](#):
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> it depends on the way the rotors are made too, the Brembo and zimmermann x-drilled rotors are the most superior in design, they are actually casted with the holes in them vice the cheap genaric type that are actually drilled… they will crack over time, but nothing like the cheapos, i had a set of brembo cross drilled on my old mk2 VR-6 and after almost 30k miles on them a couple spots showed some slight cracking, but that was some hard miles too. on the street you wont notice much of a gain if any, but when things heat up and assuming you have good pads( hawk, ebc, ferodo, etc) you will notice a difference with the larger and or cross drilled because they are able to dissipate heat and transfer gasses from the rotor face better than the standard type rotor.

Both of the pictures I posted are Zimmerman rotors, it really depends, a lot of aftermarket companies buy brembo/zimmerman blanks, drill them themselves, and sell them still in the brembo/zimmerman packaging, or so I’ve heard :wtf

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**Author:** ![Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mk4_30r_ban/32/6347_2.png) [@Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mk4_30R_Ban)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2008, 9:22am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-travis-drama-no-wai/236503/415 "2008-04-21T09:22:01Z")

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i had mine from German Auto Parts.so i dont know, your rotors looked like garbage, nice rust benny.

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**Author:** ![Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mk4_30r_ban/32/6347_2.png) [@Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mk4_30R_Ban)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2008, 9:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-travis-drama-no-wai/236503/416 "2008-04-21T09:23:05Z")

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the EBC rotors are nice too, they are dimple/slotted and Zinc coated.

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**Author:** ![bennyfizzle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bennyfizzle/32/6291_2.png) [@bennyfizzle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bennyfizzle)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2008, 9:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-travis-drama-no-wai/236503/417 "2008-04-21T09:23:23Z")

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Those aren’t mine :rofl

I’d never buy X-Drilled, for any reason.

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**Author:** ![bennyfizzle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bennyfizzle/32/6291_2.png) [@bennyfizzle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bennyfizzle)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2008, 9:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-travis-drama-no-wai/236503/418 "2008-04-21T09:25:14Z")

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THIS is what my old rotors looked like :rofl

![http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v225/bennyfizzle/rotorpwnage.jpg](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v225/bennyfizzle/rotorpwnage.jpg)

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**Author:** ![LKSi](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/lksi/32/6316_2.png) [@LKSi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LKSi)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2008, 9:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-travis-drama-no-wai/236503/419 "2008-04-21T09:26:10Z")

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when i had the civic, my X-drilled rotors cracked and I didn’t pass inspection :angry2

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**Author:** ![Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mk4_30r_ban/32/6347_2.png) [@Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mk4_30R_Ban)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2008, 9:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-travis-drama-no-wai/236503/420 "2008-04-21T09:28:30Z")

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because you dont need them. alot of companies use them, porsche and ferrari exclusivly, BMW uses them now on their M cars, but whenever i need new brakes, just getting some Brembo blanks and some EBC redstuff or Hawk HP pads. ive got 41k on my stock brakes and the rotors are still nearly new, no groove bads are still 50-60%… and as you know they stop pretty well for stock brakes…

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