# ANOTHER weekend at THE GLEN (no 56k)

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-weekend-at-the-glen-no-56k/2265>\
**Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\
**Created:** [September 12, 2005, 9:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-weekend-at-the-glen-no-56k/2265 "2005-09-12T09:32:43Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 13\
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**Author:** ![Rx3](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rx3/32/7194_2.png) [@Rx3](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Rx3)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2005, 8:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-weekend-at-the-glen-no-56k/2265/21 "2005-09-12T20:13:17Z")

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Noble M12 to be exact. Runs a Ford V6 (?) now with a turbo I guess. Damn, everyone is turbo charging these days. :shrug:

F.dot, you should buy one, and give it to me to work on, I’ll take a whole year or more but it will be sweet. 🙂

This thread belongs in Motorsports.

Good times Dre :tup:

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**Author:** ![Adictd2b00st](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/adictd2b00st/32/7625_2.png) [@Adictd2b00st](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Adictd2b00st)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2005, 8:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-weekend-at-the-glen-no-56k/2265/22 "2005-09-12T20:42:32Z")

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> [@Rx3](#):
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> Noble M12 to be exact. Runs a Ford V6 (?) now with a turbo I guess. Damn, everyone is turbo charging these days. :shrug:
> 
> F.dot, you should buy one, and give it to me to work on, I’ll take a whole year or more but it will be sweet. 🙂
> 
> This thread belongs in Motorsports.
> 
> Good times Dre :tup:

i would if i had the money rick 😛

and good call, thread moved !

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**Author:** ![POOPRA](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/poopra/32/7188_2.png) [@POOPRA](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/POOPRA)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2005, 4:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-weekend-at-the-glen-no-56k/2265/23 "2005-09-13T04:24:12Z")

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The real expense of getting a racing licence is going to racing school that satisfys the requirements for SVRA or other racing. Skip Barber 3 day school is $3,800.

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**Author:** ![fairgentleman\_Z](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fairgentleman_z/32/7263_2.png) [@fairgentleman\_Z](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fairgentleman_Z)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2005, 6:16am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-weekend-at-the-glen-no-56k/2265/24 "2005-09-13T06:16:56Z")

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> [@POOPRA](#):
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> The real expense of getting a racing licence is going to racing school that satisfys the requirements for SVRA or other racing. Skip Barber 3 day school is $3,800.

OMG how many fucking times do I have to post the same thing:bloated: :bloated:

SCCA RACING school cost $200 per school. You would have to pay duh duh dun done.

**$400** [size=5]to meet the requirements of RACING school.[size=2]

You do NOT have to go to Skip Barber, Bounderaunt, ect. ect. In fact even IF you do go to one of thoose schools you will still have to go to at least ONE SCCA school to satisfy the requirements.

Again I do not know the specific requirements of SVRA, but I do know that SCCA Licensing is recognized by the FIA, unless SVRA is beyond FIA standards :lol:  
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**Author:** ![King](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/king/32/7329_2.png) [@King](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/King)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2005, 6:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-weekend-at-the-glen-no-56k/2265/25 "2005-09-13T06:31:33Z")

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wow looked like a pretty awesome time

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**Author:** ![fairgentleman\_Z](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fairgentleman_z/32/7263_2.png) [@fairgentleman\_Z](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fairgentleman_Z)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2005, 6:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-weekend-at-the-glen-no-56k/2265/26 "2005-09-13T06:32:17Z")

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FOR THE RECORD…

From the SVRA application.

[http://www.svra.com/SVRA/SVRAHome.nsf/attachmentweb/EJEN-6FPRUW/$file/SVRA+Competition+License+Application.pdf?OpenElement](http://www.svra.com/SVRA/SVRAHome.nsf/attachmentweb/EJEN-6FPRUW/%24file/SVRA+Competition+License+Application.pdf?OpenElement)

SVRA License, going the SCCA route would cost…

$110 Novice Permit  
$400 for two required schools  
$400 for two required races

$75 Region License  
or  
$55 Vintage License

Then $125 for the SVRA License.

So **$1090** in fees AND you get **8** [size=2]days on the track, not 3.

If that is still too expensive for you stick to roll racing on the highway :roll:  
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**Author:** ![Jack](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jack/32/7613_2.png) [@Jack](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jack)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2005, 6:54am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-weekend-at-the-glen-no-56k/2265/27 "2005-09-13T06:54:54Z")

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:word:  
Roll racing is sweet.

1090 doesn’t seem very steep… I can’t afford to race, because I buy cars that break easy. I’ll stick to roll racing.

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**Author:** ![POOPRA](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/poopra/32/7188_2.png) [@POOPRA](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/POOPRA)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2005, 6:56am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-weekend-at-the-glen-no-56k/2265/28 "2005-09-13T06:56:48Z")

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:gotme: I thought you had to have a 3 day racing school under your  
belt because everyone I know that races has gone through it. Guess  
your not requried to have it, hmmmm thats cool.

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**Author:** ![Coldaccord](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/coldaccord/32/7272_2.png) [@Coldaccord](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Coldaccord)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2005, 7:08am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-weekend-at-the-glen-no-56k/2265/29 "2005-09-13T07:08:10Z")

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> [@fairgentleman Z](#):
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> Ummm… usually two day races are $200 or $300 total, sometimes $150 per driver if two are using same car. Paddock is **free** with free camping, unless they were getting some special paved section/garage pit area.
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> If you are doing all that to the car then you are preparing it in the wrong areas. _Although I do not know the specifics for every scationing body I think the purpose of **Vintage** racing is to preserve classics in their original racing form, not to modify them with **modern** parts._ If I were preparing a Z for competition then I think the smartest way to do it is also the cheapest. I mean before you were complaining how expensive it was and now you throw down a parts list of mods. **Which is it?**
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> _Again I feel like a broken record._ You do not need big brakes, motor swaps, flared fenders, areo packages, or gobs of horsepower for introductary level of wheel to wheel road racing. IN FACT THEY ARE ALL ILLEGAL MODS. (SCCA Speaking, NASA is more leanant, and I guess that is why some prefer them.) There are plenty of competitve ITS 240Zs that have proven that you don’t need any of that ish to be fast.
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> Here is the class rules that I would prepare a 240Z for. It would also be eligible to run in EMRA and NASA. Additionally it would be eligible for Nissan Challenge.
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> [http://www.scca.com/\_Filelibrary/File/2005ImprovedTouringCategory.pdf](http://www.scca.com/_Filelibrary/File/2005ImprovedTouringCategory.pdf)
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> If you want all the go faster goodies just stick to track days.

I think you may have misread what I said?

I said my uncles car already had all that stuff. no mod list of things to buy. Only thing I said I wanted was more brakes, as I was not happy with the stock brakes last trackday.

and so far, every single svra 240z I’ve seen has had triple webers, rear discs, and a front upgrade. I’ve never seen a 240z race anywhere without rear discs and some sort of front upgrade, and I also don’t think I’ve seen any z’s race with su’s.

I have a ton of pics of the glen from previous years on regular film, and I have a bunch of pics of svra 240z’s. I believe they all have webers and brakes.

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**Author:** ![Rx3](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rx3/32/7194_2.png) [@Rx3](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Rx3)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2005, 7:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-weekend-at-the-glen-no-56k/2265/30 "2005-09-13T07:38:24Z")

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> [@POOPRA](#):
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> :gotme: I thought you had to have a 3 day racing school under your  
> belt because everyone I know that races has gone through it. Guess  
> your not requried to have it, hmmmm thats cool.

No, not necessary, as has been posted lots of times. That being said though, a lot of guys take the 3 day because they feel it is necessary. You get more instruction at the Skip Barber schools as well as a bit more technical feedback (telemetry, instructors to show you how to interpret it) and sometimes more concentrated help from the instructors.

It depends on your comfort level. Not everyone can just go to an SCCA school and grab it first go. Some people need more help to get competent. If you feel that you may benefit from a 3 day school, definitely wait and go for it, especially if you’ve done a few track days or started some SCCA schools and still feel that you are behind the curve. The best way to get good at racing is to feel comfortable.

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**Author:** ![fairgentleman\_Z](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fairgentleman_z/32/7263_2.png) [@fairgentleman\_Z](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fairgentleman_Z)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2005, 8:01am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-weekend-at-the-glen-no-56k/2265/31 "2005-09-13T08:01:10Z")

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> [@Rx3](#):
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> The best way to get good at racing is to get behind the wheel.

fixed

Seat time is the most important thing.

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**Author:** ![Rx3](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rx3/32/7194_2.png) [@Rx3](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Rx3)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2005, 8:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-weekend-at-the-glen-no-56k/2265/32 "2005-09-13T08:10:27Z")

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> [@fairgentleman Z](#):
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> fixed
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> Seat time is the most important thing.

I’ll fix my own posts damn it 😛

The most important thing is seat time, and being comfortable while in said seat.

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**Author:** ![fairgentleman\_Z](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fairgentleman_z/32/7263_2.png) [@fairgentleman\_Z](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fairgentleman_Z)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2005, 8:11am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-weekend-at-the-glen-no-56k/2265/33 "2005-09-13T08:11:36Z")

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> [@Coldaccord](#):
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> and so far, every single svra 240z I’ve seen has had triple webers, rear discs, and a front upgrade. I’ve never seen a 240z race anywhere without rear discs and some sort of front upgrade, and I also don’t think I’ve seen any z’s race with su’s.

_The first place to start building a car is the rule book._

According to SVRA rules **ALL** the mods you listed are **ILLEGAL** (except tripple Webbers) for a 240Z.

[http://www.svra.com/SVRA/SVRAHome.nsf/attachmentweb/EJEN-5ZUTB7/$file/SVRA+Rules+&+Regulations±+2005.pdf?OpenElement](http://www.svra.com/SVRA/SVRAHome.nsf/attachmentweb/EJEN-5ZUTB7/$file/SVRA+Rules+&+Regulations+-+2005.pdf?OpenElement)

SCCA IT rules allows for **dual** Webber carbs as an approved replacement.

But considering that their rule book is a whole two pages I can safely assume that no **serious** competion takes place. I doubt anyone really protests illegal upgrades and the racing serves as an outlet to get some old performance cars on the track in their natural element. So in that respect the rules are probably not enforced.

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