# Any first-hand experience with PDA or Trackmasters?
**URL:** https://forums.speedlife.net/t/any-first-hand-experience-with-pda-or-trackmasters/49766
**Category:** NYSpeed Automotive
**Created:** [June 9, 2008, 8:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/any-first-hand-experience-with-pda-or-trackmasters/49766 "2008-06-09T20:21:18Z")
**Posts on this page:** 6
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### Author:  [@dmoffitt](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dmoffitt)
#### Post date: [June 9, 2008, 8:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/any-first-hand-experience-with-pda-or-trackmasters/49766/1 "2008-06-09T20:21:18Z")
My folks are coming into town and I’d like to do a few DE days while they are here. The only real possibilities calendar wise are with PDA (Jul 14-15) or Trackmasters (Jul 16-17), both at the Glen. Their prices are a good bit higher than PCA / BMWCCA and even a bit more than SCDA which is kinda depressing but then again w/ gas prices being what they are and my travel cost w/ the trailer being about $1/mile it beats going up to Mosport or out to NHIS (now NHMS I guess) or down to Summit Point.
Anyway, looking for any (preferably FIRST HAND) experience / feedback with either group. I’m hoping they’ll let me into their Advanced group even as a first-timer (with them, by no means first time at a DE), no way am I paying those prices to run parade laps in a train, heh.
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### Author:  [@forthekicks385](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/forthekicks385)
#### Post date: [June 9, 2008, 8:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/any-first-hand-experience-with-pda-or-trackmasters/49766/2 "2008-06-09T20:29:47Z")
this is semi first hand, because my dad did a lot of track days with trackmaster and trackquest and you learned alot form what my dad said + more tack time then autox.
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### Author:  [@MPD47](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MPD47)
#### Post date: [June 9, 2008, 8:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/any-first-hand-experience-with-pda-or-trackmasters/49766/3 "2008-06-09T20:36:28Z")
Dave, dont go with the “my dad’s cousin’s roommate’s” bs. Give Jim Shiner a ring or a PM and ask him as he runs with them often.
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### Author:  [@dmoffitt](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dmoffitt)
#### Post date: [June 9, 2008, 8:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/any-first-hand-experience-with-pda-or-trackmasters/49766/4 "2008-06-09T20:40:00Z")
Not to sound rude or ignorant but I’m more looking for “they are lax like Shattenbaum PCA” or “their run groups suck” more than “seat time vs autox” - no shit, 4 20-25-30 min sessions had damn well BETTER yield \> autox for almost $300/day (hence my reservation, I can go with PCA to the Glen for about 300 for TWO days).
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### Author:  [@POOPRA](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/POOPRA)
#### Post date: [June 10, 2008, 5:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/any-first-hand-experience-with-pda-or-trackmasters/49766/5 "2008-06-10T05:19:51Z")
They are pretty good at returning emails, I have been in contact with bill whos email is [panoz09@aol.com](mailto:panoz09@aol.com)
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### Author:  [@OriginalSterm](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/OriginalSterm)
#### Post date: [June 10, 2008, 5:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/any-first-hand-experience-with-pda-or-trackmasters/49766/6 "2008-06-10T05:26:07Z")
I’ve run with PDA at the Glen before. They are a pretty good group. You get a lot of the same instructors/drivers as other local groups, so a lot of the faces will be familiar. They are a lot of money, but it’s well organized and they don’t pack the track with too many cars (ie. Reisentoter PCA).