# Any good machine shops? **URL:** \ **Category:** Shift518 Automotive\ **Created:** [October 11, 2011, 6:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/any-good-machine-shops/260820 "2011-10-11T06:38:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Boxersix](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boxersix/32/6327_2.png) [@Boxersix](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Boxersix)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2011, 7:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/any-good-machine-shops/260820/21 "2011-10-11T19:51:37Z")
where the fuck did this thread go :lol ---
**Author:** ![Skidplate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c2a13f/32.png) [@Skidplate](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Skidplate)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2011, 8:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/any-good-machine-shops/260820/22 "2011-10-11T20:17:45Z")
> [@west seneca dmv?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/west-seneca-dmv/45966/4): > > where the fuck did this thread go :lol Hell, as is the custom of all Shift518 threads. ---
**Author:** ![b-ri](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/b-ri/32/6376_2.png) [@b-ri](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/b-ri)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2011, 8:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/any-good-machine-shops/260820/23 "2011-10-11T20:20:25Z")
> [@callout:ericvw v. cky89](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/callout-ericvw-v-cky89/45965/6): > > Hell, as is the custom of all Shift518 threads. he only has 90 post and he already knowsss ---
**Author:** ![Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mk4_30r_ban/32/6347_2.png) [@Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mk4_30R_Ban)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2011, 8:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/any-good-machine-shops/260820/24 "2011-10-11T20:21:59Z")
> [@More milk....](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/more-milk/45962/5): > > Agreed, if i ever bought german car i would chang it over to lug nuts the stud conversions suck. Audi sells an assist tool that makes installing them a breeze. my adapters have studs for the GM wheel, but they are bolts into the hub still. ---
**Author:** ![Boxersix](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boxersix/32/6327_2.png) [@Boxersix](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Boxersix)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2011, 8:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/any-good-machine-shops/260820/25 "2011-10-11T20:29:17Z")
^+1, and besides if your rotors still have the retaining screws to hold them to the hubs getting the bolts in is a no brainer to begin with. ---
**Author:** ![Cossey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Cossey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cossey)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2011, 8:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/any-good-machine-shops/260820/26 "2011-10-11T20:38:45Z")
> [@FS: used 205/50/15 azenis](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-used-205-50-15-azenis/45844/9): > > Thanks for everyone’s input, is it possible to add an insert to the center and have that cut down out of round aluminum I guess, I don’t really know so I’m just throwing it out there also I don’t know how much it would cost. > > Cossey- let me know how much u want for your spacers but these are for the m5 so the ones u have won’t fit but maybe I’ll throw a set on my m3. $60 and they’re yours. Do not include bolts, as I didn’t order them because I converted to studs. ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_GSR](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/justin_gsr/32/6412_2.png) [@Justin\_GSR](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Justin_GSR)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2011, 8:57pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/any-good-machine-shops/260820/27 "2011-10-11T20:57:35Z")
> [@west seneca dmv?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/west-seneca-dmv/45966/9): > > the stud conversions suck. Audi sells an assist tool that makes installing them a breeze. > > my adapters have studs for the GM wheel, but they are bolts into the hub still. How so, Dom has them on his M3 and he hasn’t had a problem with them and actually really likes them. The black M3 race car (owned by Synapse’s old driver) that was just at Morgans shop had them and 2 or 3 guys at Lime Rock had nothing but good things to say about the stud conversion for BMW’s ---
**Author:** ![KrazyKid](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/krazykid/32/6371_2.png) [@KrazyKid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KrazyKid)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2011, 6:48am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/any-good-machine-shops/260820/28 "2011-10-12T06:48:17Z")
The hubcentric ring is only there to “assist” the wheel in centering itself with the lug bolts/nuts with a conical/ball seat. Its not the life blood to having a wheel perfectly centered on the hub. Infact if the surfaces are clean, they actual float around in there when your drive. Machine the lip off the spacers you already have, so they have 2 flat surfaces, 20MM thick. Put it on the hub, get yourself the a “wheel assist tool” like MK430 mentioned, screw that into the hub, put the wheel on, and install your lugs make a bunch of laps around in a star pattern going a 1/3 turn each pass when they are finger tight with a tq bar until they are fully tq’d. /\ lug centric installation wheel assist tool: ![http://c1552172.cdn.cloudfiles.rackspacecloud.com/84014_x300.jpg](http://c1552172.cdn.cloudfiles.rackspacecloud.com/84014_x300.jpg) all done, no need to get new spacers ---
**Author:** ![Sketchy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sketchy/32/6378_2.png) [@Sketchy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Sketchy)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2011, 12:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/any-good-machine-shops/260820/29 "2011-10-12T12:01:37Z")
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