# any of you OBD II guys run open loop all the time? **URL:** \ **Category:** PittSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [January 23, 2009, 5:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/any-of-you-obd-ii-guys-run-open-loop-all-the-time/201616 "2009-01-23T17:19:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 22
**Author:** ![2003\_SSEi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/2/b77776/32.png) [@2003\_SSEi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/2003_SSEi)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2009, 5:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/any-of-you-obd-ii-guys-run-open-loop-all-the-time/201616/22 "2009-01-28T17:35:20Z")
> [@fs:1985 camaro (parting out)](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-1985-camaro-parting-out/36365/14): > > If the LTFT’s lock to 0.0, then it is not carrying trims over, cause theres no way your running 0.0 LTFT’s all the time… no the trims lock 0.0 when the car enters PE, and i have said i have tuned the car so that the trims are within +/-3, and that is better than what our specific 3800 vendors recommend of +/-5 01GPGT let me know if you need any help, id be glad --- _[View the full topic](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/any-of-you-obd-ii-guys-run-open-loop-all-the-time/201616)._