# Anybody do an 80/20 with sonyma

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**Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\
**Created:** [February 3, 2008, 8:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anybody-do-an-80-20-with-sonyma/42899 "2008-02-03T20:39:25Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Mike93](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mike93/32/7325_2.png) [@Mike93](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mike93)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2008, 12:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anybody-do-an-80-20-with-sonyma/42899/41 "2008-02-04T12:48:00Z")

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> [@AWDrifter](#):
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> ?  
> Couldn’t you get a fixed rate 80/20 without PMI?  
> That’s what I got, if you mean borrow 80% with 20% equity.

> [@chino](#):
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> with 20% down yes, he is talking about 80/20 in terms of mortgage 80%, and essentially a personal loan for 20%. basically has no money to put down…

Yep, I bought my house 2 months after graduating college and did not much to put down…so I got an 80/20. I’ll admit at the time I wasn’t as informed as I should have been, but my mortgage payments aren’t very high and in the past year I’ve been able to start paying off my ‘20’.

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**Author:** ![93dx\_hatch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/9/90ced4/32.png) [@93dx\_hatch](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/93dx_hatch)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2008, 12:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anybody-do-an-80-20-with-sonyma/42899/42 "2008-02-04T12:55:33Z")

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I am reading all of this and its all news to me, which is bad because I am inches away from making an offer and I don’t have a mortgage. It all happened so fast…

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**Author:** ![Viper966](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/viper966/32/7268_2.png) [@Viper966](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Viper966)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2008, 12:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anybody-do-an-80-20-with-sonyma/42899/43 "2008-02-04T12:58:53Z")

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> [@93dx--hatch](#):
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> I am reading all of this and its all news to me, which is bad because I am inches away from making an offer and I don’t have a mortgage. It all happened so fast…

the internet has TONS of info… but your realitor should help you through most of it… but rmember they only want you to get $$… they dont care how much it costs you

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**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2008, 1:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anybody-do-an-80-20-with-sonyma/42899/44 "2008-02-04T13:08:47Z")

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> [@93dx--hatch](#):
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> I am reading all of this and its all news to me, which is bad because I am inches away from making an offer and I don’t have a mortgage. It all happened so fast…

Most people won’t even accept an offer without pre-approval of a loan.

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**Author:** ![93dx\_hatch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/9/90ced4/32.png) [@93dx\_hatch](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/93dx_hatch)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2008, 1:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anybody-do-an-80-20-with-sonyma/42899/45 "2008-02-04T13:16:57Z")

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^ I am making a cash offer with funds from a family member to get the house since it has 4 offers already and has been on the market for 2 days

I dont think anyone will take an offer without a pre-approval

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**Author:** ![Nikuk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nikuk/32/7254_2.png) [@Nikuk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nikuk)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2008, 1:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anybody-do-an-80-20-with-sonyma/42899/46 "2008-02-04T13:18:30Z")

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> [@Viper966](#):
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> PMI isnt tax deductable in NYS is it?

It is on federal return. Not NYS.

Same for home loan interest paid - so long as its the primary, or second home & it was used for purchase or improvements.

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**Author:** ![Nikuk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nikuk/32/7254_2.png) [@Nikuk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nikuk)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2008, 1:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anybody-do-an-80-20-with-sonyma/42899/47 "2008-02-04T13:21:48Z")

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> [@93dx--hatch](#):
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> I am reading all of this and its all news to me, which is bad because I am inches away from making an offer and I don’t have a mortgage. It all happened so fast…

If you literally have the cash in hand, you don’t _need_ to know all of this. You only need to be concerned with the legal aspects.

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**Author:** ![93dx\_hatch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/9/90ced4/32.png) [@93dx\_hatch](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/93dx_hatch)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2008, 1:24pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anybody-do-an-80-20-with-sonyma/42899/48 "2008-02-04T13:24:17Z")

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I have cash in hand but its not mine, which means I need to still mortgage the house

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**Author:** ![Nikuk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nikuk/32/7254_2.png) [@Nikuk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nikuk)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2008, 1:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anybody-do-an-80-20-with-sonyma/42899/49 "2008-02-04T13:25:12Z")

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> [@AWDrifter](#):
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> It is a scam for banks to collect commision on insurance, tax deductable or not.  
> Why would they loan you money if they thought there was a big risk?  
> They wouldn’t.

Its not so much about profit persay.

Its about the ability to reassure the stock holders where the lender is “extra” exposed to real estate market swings.  
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The ability to sell the mortgages to econdary buyers for a better block price, which is how banks raise capital.

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**Author:** ![Nikuk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nikuk/32/7254_2.png) [@Nikuk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nikuk)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2008, 1:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anybody-do-an-80-20-with-sonyma/42899/50 "2008-02-04T13:26:55Z")

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> [@93dx--hatch](#):
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> I have cash in hand but its not mine, which means I need to still mortgage the house

if you can prove you have the funds in hand, you should have a pretty damned easy time.

Still, get some counsel; read up online; talk to family or friends who’ve been there & done that a few times… make sure you get teh best possible terms.

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**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2008, 1:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anybody-do-an-80-20-with-sonyma/42899/51 "2008-02-04T13:30:36Z")

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FYI  
My parents gave me some money for a down payment(on my first house) and the bank asked all sorts of questions about it when it showed up in my account.🙂

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**Author:** ![Viper966](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/viper966/32/7268_2.png) [@Viper966](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Viper966)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2008, 1:33pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anybody-do-an-80-20-with-sonyma/42899/52 "2008-02-04T13:33:17Z")

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> [@AWDrifter](#):
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> FYI  
> My parents gave me some money for a down payment(on my first house) and the bank asked all sorts of questions about it when it showed up in my account.🙂

yea… i always thought that was really lame… usually u gotta put it 2-3 months ahead of time…my one friend said he helped restore a car for 10k… they couldnt prove it either way so he got to use the funds

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**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2008, 1:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anybody-do-an-80-20-with-sonyma/42899/53 "2008-02-04T13:41:25Z")

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I told them I sold a bunch of weed that month.:pimp:  
They still gave me the loan because I had 20% down.:lol:

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**Author:** ![walter](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/walter/32/7202_2.png) [@walter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/walter)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2008, 1:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anybody-do-an-80-20-with-sonyma/42899/54 "2008-02-04T13:44:15Z")

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> [@Viper966](#):
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> that being said, i just got prequal’d for a bank of america no fee loan at 5.625% so im ahead of SONYMA with the closing cost $$

ARM/IO/Term?

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**Author:** ![Viper966](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/viper966/32/7268_2.png) [@Viper966](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Viper966)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2008, 2:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anybody-do-an-80-20-with-sonyma/42899/55 "2008-02-04T14:42:51Z")

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> [@walter](#):
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> ARM/IO/Term?

30, fixed 5.625 no pmi 5% down no closing costs, just ~3k in taxes

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**Author:** ![greenbull](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc8723/32.png) [@greenbull](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/greenbull)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2008, 2:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anybody-do-an-80-20-with-sonyma/42899/56 "2008-02-04T14:43:52Z")

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> [@chino](#):
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> sooo 22.5K each is pretty much welfare money. Even if it is 63K, that is low combined income for someone buying a house ?

63k may be low but thats about how much my girl and i bring in and we are doing fine in our house. :shrug: Paying Bi-weekly on a 108k loan at a rate of 5.625% after putting 10% down. Should be done in 23-24 years. But hopefully sooner.

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**Author:** ![Jagermeister](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f19dbf/32.png) [@Jagermeister](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jagermeister)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2008, 3:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anybody-do-an-80-20-with-sonyma/42899/57 "2008-02-04T15:03:54Z")

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I have the B of A no fee plus mortgage. I like it but expect to pay 1.0-1.5 points up front. Thats how they recoup a portion of the no closing costs. I ended up paying approx. $6,600 in addition to my 5% DP. That included taxes, 1.38 pts., state tax/stamp, recording fee, interest, etc. Subtract the taxes and there was about $2500 in closing costs.

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**Author:** ![nelstoys](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/48db29/32.png) [@nelstoys](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/nelstoys)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2008, 3:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anybody-do-an-80-20-with-sonyma/42899/58 "2008-02-04T15:15:34Z")

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Hmm good reading. Ill have to figure this all out soon also. Me and the girl are looking for a nice house. I want more land and a big garage. So far i found a nice property with enough indoor storage for 20 cars, storage outside also and a nice house for around 250,000. I would just settle for a nice garage and live upstairs!

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**Author:** ![walter](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/walter/32/7202_2.png) [@walter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/walter)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2008, 3:33pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anybody-do-an-80-20-with-sonyma/42899/59 "2008-02-04T15:33:00Z")

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Don’t buy any points. FTMFL.

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**Author:** ![Nikuk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nikuk/32/7254_2.png) [@Nikuk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nikuk)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2008, 3:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anybody-do-an-80-20-with-sonyma/42899/60 "2008-02-04T15:46:11Z")

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> [@walter](#):
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> Don’t buy any points. FTMFL.

:word:

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