# anybody else see whats new with China?

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**Created:** [December 15, 2011, 4:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anybody-else-see-whats-new-with-china/261797 "2011-12-15T04:26:33Z")\
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**Author:** ![Jammer](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jammer/32/6349_2.png) [@Jammer](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jammer)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2011, 10:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anybody-else-see-whats-new-with-china/261797/16 "2011-12-15T10:42:35Z")

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> [@A history of suck... (awesome update post 99, then 134)](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/a-history-of-suck-awesome-update-post-99-then-134/47278/9):
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> Most of you people realize that some of these weapons/aircraft we know about now, have been around for 20-30+ years before we even really heard about them
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> I bet the government knew about this before the first machine to build it even started up
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> They say the F-15 is still one of the best fighter jets in our arsenal aside from the F-22 which has now “Just” come into service…
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> I find that hard to belive that a plane thats been in service for 30 years is still one of our best planes, even the F-22 is aproaching 15 iirc and i still think even thats crazy. They may be the best planes that we know about :rofl
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> In 30 years and all this shit we here about technology and the stuff thats being made, without a doubt in my mind there is some absoloutely crazy shit we have built and use that we will find out about in another 30 years

F-22 was apparently junk at $356 mil and can be shot down easily with a 50 cal. Its never even flown a mission in Iraq… not sure if all the talk was propaganda or not though. Either way, production is over.

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