# anybody else see whats new with China?

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**Created:** [December 15, 2011, 4:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anybody-else-see-whats-new-with-china/261797 "2011-12-15T04:26:33Z")\
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**Author:** ![Mafdark](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mafdark/32/6322_2.png) [@Mafdark](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mafdark)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2011, 11:08am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anybody-else-see-whats-new-with-china/261797/20 "2011-12-15T11:08:27Z")

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> [@A history of suck... (awesome update post 99, then 134)](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/a-history-of-suck-awesome-update-post-99-then-134/47278/30):
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> funny isn’t it?
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> gov’t spends ~20 years and $350M designing and building a fighter from scratch, and ends up without anything to fight. and the previous fighters were doing their job satisfactorily.
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> spends 1/5 that amount building a bomber that’s been in service for about 56 years now.

At the time the project was conceived it in part was meant to be hugely expensive. The F22 and the star wars program where designed to be so expensive that the USSR would simply be unable to compete.

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